TTC after MC, ERPC anyone want to join me??

[nurse47]

Hi ive been posting on the miscarrage forum but now feel ready to start all over again!
My story, Had my first MMC in nov 2007, followed by an erpc (worst moment of my life) this was my first pregnancy and i felt robbed. Waited for two periods and got pg with my little DD in feb 2008, i had a great pg and birth but was on constant knicker alert. We decided when she was two we would like another baby to add to the familiy, we decided to try in sept this year and got pg first time! (very shocked) I was so hoping this would be my time to have a stress free pg and actually enjoy the experience! How wrong i was, i started to spot at six weeks had a scan which showed a sac but no baby, i then enjoured the worst two week of my life by having scan and blood tests. I was told on the 8th on nov the pregnany was not going to continue and i had a blighted ovum, and on the 9th i had a erpc. I have recovered well and stopped bleeding the day after the procedure. I went to see my doc last week who told me i could start ttc asap as long as i feel up to it?? anyone else ttc straight away, last time i was told to wait and i did but this time i have read that there is no lit to say wait apart from to date the pg?? Im hoping there are some people who can share there experiences and someone who wants to join me!

Yellow - it took me a while to get used to. I would wake up at 2am and be unable to get back to sleep wondering if I should take my temp then, or when I woke up later on. (The correct answer is of course - go back to sleep!) After four-five months, it's okay now. And very useful - I could tell when I got pregnant, and when my hormones were back to pre-pregnancy levels. And yes - a hot drink will fuck up the reading.

Haha. That's been an entertaining catch up :)
Got to say i don't have anything near as interesting to share. I think i must have gotton away with massively embarrassing moments. Off the top of my head there is only really one thing that stands out really.

I was 15 and hadn't lost my virginity yet. I sort of just wanted rid of it in a way so i knew what i was doing and it wasn't uncomfortable with any future boyfriends, should we make that leap, . Anyway, i had joined a friend's family for a weekend at Center Parcs and it clicked.....a wee holiday fling would be a good way cos i'd never see him again.....yay!!! I applauded myself at being so clever .
Fast forward a day or so and i'd managed to pull myself a nice chap who was working as a lifeguard there. Whilst he wasn't on duty, we decided to go have a sauna and quickly decided to get it on in the steam room (as you do ) but realised when i had my cossie half way down and he had his pecker out that we may get caught so he managed to get us into a massage room where we could lock the door. Previous to this i had mentioned i was on my period.....more or less just coming off it but he wasn't bothered and i thought well if he isn't, i'm not. Part way through doing the deed i felt a bit wet and i think his poking must have triggered the remainder of my period (sorry tmi). We decided to stop as was concerned it could get a bit messy. Don't think it was my hymen though as i expect that would have broken years before through the amount of sports i did but none the less, i was horrified by my first sexual encounter. I'd never even given a BJ before so think i skipped several bases!!!
Anyway, he was all very nice about it really given we were 15 and 16 and knowing what boys are like but i took comfort in the knowledge i'd never have to see him again anyway.
Oh dear....how wrong was i?
The 'encounter' happened in feb time and i started my A Levels in the September. I walk into my A Level PE class and who was sat there?.....only Mr lifeguard from Center Parcs!! Cue much from me, especially as i was such a goody goody two shoes and school. I was mortified....truly. I ended up spending the next two years with him in my class as he was also in my Geography class too!!
At least it was memorable but i didn't have sex again till i was probably 17!!! Hehe xxx

Awesome story star! Don't think I would have been able to concentrate in those classes! I remember my first time being a bit of a let down - is that it then? I thought.... however, practice makes perfect!

pecker! - 12 months of 5 hour sessions - am seriously impressed with your stamina....!!

brownb - good to hear from you again and thanks for info on temping - I'll keep at it.

pecker wow, a year......and so when you found out what did you say to him? And you may not want to say but what percentage was foreplay and what was the erm main erm penetrative part?

Thanks brown I'm on day one of temping so I'll have to see how it goes. I am def not setting my alarm to take it at the weekend though. i did a test today and took it as soon as I woke, then I dozed for 45 mins and took it again, then opened eyes and chatted to DP for a bit and took it again. It had gone down almost a whole percentage point in that time so I guess it does make a big difference.

star how funny...did you two ever discuss it again?

I think first times are often a let down, I know mine was.....

wombat what do you mean that you can't get a reading? Mine is digital and beeps when it's ready, I got it from Amazon. Was cheap too only about 6 quid. i could post one to you if you can't order one there? And you're off on your hols soon too aren't you? How exciting......but don't forget us will you?

So another friend of mine (and don't start it was a friend) was receiving 'oral pleasures' and suddenly there was blood....and he was like 'arrghh yuk you've got your af' but she hadn't.....he'd got a nose bleed! Must have been all the excitement or something!!

Right I think that is enough of the sex stories from me..

ha ha ha....
It was kinda stop start for 5 hours!! It was bloody knackering....
When we had the conversation, he was slightly embarrassed but i seemed to fix things really like all the pressure was off, thats kinda when my little friend got introduced...
Took my first ov test this morning, nothing yet.
More bad news last night another one of dh friends wifes in preganant, thats 3 since xmas!!!
Life is so unfair, i want it to be me!!! See says stamping her feet,rolling on the floor like a 3 year old

so I got the results from the consultant today. AMH is now 2.71 so up from 0.85 but he said that would be due to 'inter-assay' variation whatever that means.

FSH is 16.6 which is high but much googling seems to show that it varies a lot but still def not in the 'good news' camp

FSH more than 12 mIU/ml suggests that the ovarian reserve is weakened. More than 25 mIU/ml is a confirmation of ovarian failure and most commonly found in menopausal women.

Feeling a bit down now.....i think I was kind of hoping it was all a big mistake...

hmmmm yellow sorry for you it wasnt all a mistake and you are feeling so low....as is to be expected, but as a glass is always half full kinda girl, I would say those results are better than they were. Couldn't the low figure be due to this "inter-assay" thingy? I have no knowledge or experiance with fertility issues, but still think you should hang on to the fact that not so long ago you were PG!
Your FSH is no-where near that of menapausal women either. Was it the same consultant? have you been to see your GP yet?

Pecker I know what you mean with the other people getting PG, one of my facebook friends is 7 weeks ! and is posting on there all day with updates on her MS and posting this progress thing that shows the babbies progress. I think I may have to hide her for my sanity.

star love the first encounter story, bordering on TMI though...... (says me with my worm story HA)

Waves to everyone else
I have nothing to report, still can't wait to start trying again in 2 weeks and hubby is even sounding excited about it too, after me initially having to talk him around to trying for another. I feel so lucky every day to have the 2 I already have, and so sad for those of you who havn't been so lucky ........yet
xxxxx

They're everywhere... those pregnant ladies... grrr...

As for sex stories. Nope. None that are funny or otherwise worth sharing.

Haha worm....yes, i think you definately set the benchmark there..no worries.

Yellow, yes it did get mentioned...just not in great depth....we airbrushed over the bad bits, acknowledged it and moved on. We were quite good friends actually and i have him on Facebook so can't have been too damaging. I do remember speaking of it with his best mate once who stated that on the first day he'd asked if he knew me and his responce was 'i think i shagged her' lol. Obviously didn't cement in his mind for too long then ;-)

star - such a typical bloke response!

worm - great that DH is getting excited too! When is it your off on hols again?

yellow - sorry that you are feeling a bit down about the results. I googled the inter-assay variation to try and understand what that meant and from my very limited understanding of stats, it's about the margin of error (posh words = standard deviation) that has to be taken into account with any results i.e. how the samples were stored, transported, tested etc. so I think worm is right that the low reading could have been down to inter assay variations too. Just seen this on one website which seems like sage advice to me:
"Do not get carried away with the cutoff values shown here. For example, the difference between a 0.6 and a 0.7 ng/ml test result puts a woman in a "different box" in this table - but there is very little real difference in fertility potential. In reality, it is a continuum - and not something that categorizes well." - here's the link to the whole page - I'm sure you'll have done all your research already of course. What are your next steps in terms of GP / consultant?

Thanks so much for the offer of sending over a thermometer - so thoughtful of you. When I say I can't get a reading, I turn it on and wait for the beep, stick it in my mouth and on some days I have waited for 5 mins or more without the beep to say it's ready.... I think it doesn't beep because your temp has to remain steady for 30 seconds or something. It's really annoying and I think I can feel my temperature rising as I get more annoyed so not surprising I can't get a reading! I think I'm going to read the instructions again. Very interesting to read of that whole percentage point difference..... I assume the SWI went to plan for you and pecker?

In other news, we went to the fancy dress party in 80s gear last night - I managed a Desperately Seeking Susan Madonna look and was so chuffed to find a pair of genuine white stilletoes in the sale for about 4 quid!! Teemed with some black lace ruffle ankle socks, it was a great look!

You do sound like you lead an interesting social life wombat good for you :) Off on hols 3 weeks today, AF due next sat, and starting trying straight after that (no not during star.....) So we will be on the first 2ww while we are there, now that is what I call a good distraction!!
I have nothing exciting going on here, last weekend the kids were both out during the day, playing around friends, and parties and things, so I said to DH what shall we do with ourselves, all I could think of was to either go to the pub or spend the days in bed, and I got turned down for both!! so I ended up on my laptop on the AIBU threads, while he was watching football. I hate it when the kids are out, the house feels soul-less. Only DS has plans this weekend, for a party laser shooting (wish there were parties like that when I were little)
Happy weekend ladies.
Hope you are ok yellow
xxxx

Yes wombat, you seem to be having far too much fun in Dubai....not fair while we're back here freezing!!! :) Im always seeing pics of friends over there and it does seem to have a lively ex pat community. They're always at one social event or another. Their jobs all vary too. A few started on the airlines but settled and are now in real estate to one that works as a private golf tutor to some wedged Arab family.....they're definately living the dream. We're desperate to go and live abroad once DH finishes in his career. He will retire early cos he's in the sports industry, so we are considering the US or Aus to maybe finish the last few years and see how we like it. Think that's the only way we'd get on a visa.
My next big event is a butlins weekender so not quite as glamourous but should be interesting as never been before!! It's a friends 30th and the get up is school uniform and then a cheerleading outfit.......surely we're too old for all this?!!! haha.
Definately advising you to wait worm before you try :). Hope being away distracts you from the 2ww.
I have been spotting a bit of brown since the end of last week. When I wipe it appears bitty like watery with bits of tissue in it. Yesterday I had the slightest bit of blood amongst it as popped a tampon up so I could be disgusting and inspect it thoroughly! :) Would you guys go to docs as this has been way, way off a period although did have some cramping yesterday. Think my body is so f*ed up at the mo!!!
Hope you all have a great weekend xx

Well not good news for me got a BFP yesterday but have had a period of spotting so doesn't look good I just want to crawl away, I don't feel pg. I have a scan booked for in two weeks and I'm going to see the gp aswell he said if I had another MC he would arrange tests. Why me! Again!!!
I'm thinking of giving up I have one healthy child and I'm lucky to have her. I can't keep putting my body through this physically and emotionally. Only me and DH know can't face even telling my mum! X

Well not good news for me got a BFP yesterday but have had a period of spotting so doesn't look good I just want to crawl away, I don't feel pg. I have a scan booked for in two weeks and I'm going to see the gp aswell he said if I had another MC he would arrange tests. Why me! Again!!!
I'm thinking of giving up I have one healthy child and I'm lucky to have her. I can't keep putting my body through this physically and emotionally. Only me and DH know can't face even telling my mum! X

nurse is it possible that it could be implantation bleeding? Was yesterday your first bfp? When was the spotting? It is quite possible and are body's are a bit messed up so I would jump to a negative conclusion because we might throw up random signs and symptoms following the m/c. However, I completely understand the way you feel and regardless of what I've just said, would be exactly the same as you. Just try to relax and keep a note of any spotting if it makes you feel more in control. Another thing you could do is get a clearblue conception indicator as next week it should have moved up which could alleviate some anxiety. Will they not do your bloods on the sly at work? That would be the best option if they will do it for you but would obv mean telling someone. Lots of love your way. Thinking of you and hoping all will be well xx

Just re read that. I meant our, not are!!! Don't think I can even blame that on my I phone.....shocking Star!!!

Hello all

Yellow Your results sound a bit better - does that AMH level put you in the "satisfactory" box - maybe it was the first result that was wrong - if you had got 2.71 first time round I wonder what would have been said.?! Sorry you are feeling upset about this - it is understandable.

Nurse Loads of people have spotting on BFP day or there about - implantation bleeding as Star said. I don't think it is unusual at all. Has your GP worried you? They are not great at the ttc lark or early pregnancy. Implantation bleeding is quite common. I don't think it is anything to worry about - I had spotting before this BFP. If it is not very heavy like AF and only lasts one day that is what it is - I have had it with all 4 pregnancy. If it is a mc it will be a chemical pregnancy so if the test is negative in a few days then yes but if still positive I'm sure everything will be grand.

Me - I am convinced that this pregnancy is going to fail. I have a really bad feeling about it - no spotting or cramping but no symptoms either. Got a 3+ on clear blue digital but did last time - time will tell - i can't face another mmc - just hope i start bleeding and have a full mc this time.

Was due on friday got a positive in the morning then around fourish had some brown spotting only once, don't mean to sound negative but I don't feel right,I'm just been negative I know but can't help it in all my pregnancies I've had symptoms at first even if they have gone and I've never spotted unless I've been coming on, to be honest I just want to come on if its a MC I can't face having another erpc! I really cant

so sorry for being so negative I'm just going out of my mind! Kitty I have my fingers crossed your ok and I know how your feeling! X I'm at work so I'm going home to rest and cry!

so sorry for being so negative I'm just going out of my mind! Kitty I have my fingers crossed your ok and I know how your feeling! X I'm at work so I'm going home to rest and cry!

Try not to worry too much nurse. go home and rest and take it a day at a time. This is my fear with ttc again. I wished I'd started straight away in a way because I can feel the fear creeping in. I will be a nightmare. I find it barely possible to focus on anything other than pregnancies in those first few weeks as it is.....this is just gonna add to it. It does appear to be implantation though if it's at the same time your period would be due and you got a positive. Try to cling to that x

Hi nurse and sorry to read of your anxious moments - it's totally understandable given the history. Is there anything else you can do before the scan? e.g. Star's suggestion of some bloods at work (if you can do that without having to tell anyone....?) Keeping everything crossed for you and sending lots of warm thoughts x

And lots of thoughts to you too kitkey - it is such an up and down time. When is your first scan?

star - I probably would go to the docs if I was you - how long since your ERPC? You can at least get in the system to start having tests etc. done.

If it makes you feel any better we had a massive sandstorm yesterday - just horrible to venture out... and while I do consider myself extremely lucky to be here, it's not all a bed of roses! Whereabouts in Aus or the US are you thinking of trying out?

yellow,nurse,kitkey, my positive thought are winging your way, not sure what else to say.
Im currently lay in bed with a throat infection, feel like im constantly ill at the moment, was meant to be at a hen weekend this weekend, but had to cancel last nyt as my throat got much worse as the nyt when on, almost closed it was that swollen?!!
Me and dh still managed a small amount of swi, which involved me just lay there!! Now thats commitment to the cause!! Lol
yellow im going to google whats happening with you as i feel i dont understand it enough to comment, but i can add im so sorry your having to deal with this ontop of everything else us ladies have to go through.
nurse fingers crossed the spotting is either the implatation or plain old blood.....
kitkey i think us ladies are programmed to worry especially after what weve all been through, how far are you now??

Waves to all xx

11 weeks tomorrow Wombat.
I'm open to anywhere i think.
We have 2 sets of friends in Perth and another around the Central Coast north of Sydney. It would depend really where he can get a contract over there. He has a contact in orlando that he could use, if he ever wanted to coach after he's finished competing but not sure how the set up works over there so we probably wouldn't get to know until we started the process of actually moving there.
DS really doesn't want to go to Aus though but would happily go to US. Think he thinks that all the homes have gamesrooms and the kids don't go to school. He doesn't quite get that although we go to Disney on holiday, the kids that live there are at school, hehe.