Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 7)

[MamaPower]

A comfy little corner for those who need company in the post mc ttc journey!

To POAS or not to POAS? That is the question!

All welcome

I don't know what it is either. My ds just wants to pee on objects. He's like a puppy marking his territory! [hgrin]

Catch up properly :)

Velvet I am with you on the DH thinking you are obsessive... DH the same here sadly! shame huh? doesnt help the cause i find!

Boo im sorry you find yourself at this juncture. You know where we are when you need us xxxxxx Everything crossed for you that it will happen soon :) and that DH obliges....... mr Nix is not much different, find myself being extra nice in my quest for sperm!

mouse i think you need to find a giant sized johnnie to protect your DH from MRSA in your SWOI attempts! (at least to protect his swimmers anyway [hgrin]

fondant glad you are feeling good. It makes a massive difference i find to concentration levels as well etc with sugar reduction. definate link between sugar and bad behaviour (IME of DS and sugar) so i hpoe your behaviour has improved also!!!! Get your antibacterial wipes out and FFS dont lick your lips after the sneeze!

IZZ hope the shagathon continued at chez izzzmcwizz :) With you re the disheartened feeling, even tho i am only in C1, It took me 4 months of trying, albeit not really trying, to conceive PG n2 and i wasnt temping or OPK'ing. Heres hoping it happens for everyone soon xxx

betweener urm thats actually a short cycle for me! when TTC last time i was 40 days so its actually come down to 35 post MC (blessing in disguise if ever could be called that) Hopefully if i can get my stress levels under control i may be able to get it back to 32 ish

Jam you will have another baby!!!! Life begins at 40 as they say :) [hgrin] at the peeing on objects, put the balls in the toilet to see if that helps his aim?

betweener you may have an infection. TMI Alert folks! I went for a swab as i suspected infec as the odour was a touch "fishy" (god i hate that word! I had noticed it when i was MC'ing but it smelt the same as when i had birthed DS and i was told that was normal!) With BV you can get a fishy odour, thats a bacterial imbalance, and is normally associated with the cause of late MC rather than early. I was diagnosed with a staph infection which again is just a bacterial infection - for either abs are prescribed, but i was told that it wasnt a MC cause and wasnt an STI either. I sspect i already had it, either that or it was caused by bathing when MC'ing or having an empty ovum inside for 3 months! Get yourself checked out, its easily rectified! and grit your teeth with the ducks bill [hgrin] I hope you havent, though btw! Sounds like you are having lots of SWI - good stuff, hope for a bfp soon then :)

Keep going ladies, we will get there soon.
I have a break now for a couple of weeks to try and get my stress levels controlled. Not likely with my bloody fucking job! Working mum has its benefits but its a god damn juggling act!

Waves also to cariboo hope you are feeling fab lovely xx preetyy how are the handies chick? hairy hows the tiredness? and anyone else not seen around for a while!

Doom, one of my colleagues' wife has just given birth to a little girl and have just seen a photo, she is the most beautiful baby I've ever seen. I'm off to the bogs to sit in a pit of self-pity for a bit.........

Didn't really mean doom, meant d-oh! Obviously pleased for him, just despairing for myself sob

Oh I dont know. I think doom rather fits

Chin up xx

I'm with inbetweener - I think Doom was a Freudian slip! Hope you're ok pink (((hugs))) x

Inbetweener I thought exactly same as you re infection, BV after mc and wondered whether it had caused it, but had a swab and it was all clear. Worth doing if only to put your mind at rest, but even if an infection shows up dr said it would have been unlikely to cause mc on its own. So don't beat yourself up over it whatever the outcome x

mummyabroad when's the appointment? Best of luck x

I then got back from the pit of doom to a group of colleagues excitedly discussing their wives' forthcoming 20 week scans so had to rapidly remove myself back to the pit :( I have just spent another afternoon largely in the bogs trying not to get myself into a complete state. You would have thought this would be less of a problem working largely with men but apparently not, probably because they are completely oblivious and thought I was on holiday while off sick.... Dooooooommmmmmmmm

I like doom as a descriptive word. It makes me want to roll the word out on my tongue. Sorry its all shite at work. It gets really depressing doesn't it? Hugs for you.

Can somebody pass me the whale? It hasn't been out for a while. It's day 19 and i am symptom spotting, fgs. I had some brown discharge today, 5 or 6 dpo, by my reckoning. I am being ridic. Slap me and send me on my way with a note to not get my hopes up, and stop wishing my life away.

Hi all,

I just had BFN, has been 11 days since erpc. Please tell me this is a good sign, and my body is getting back to 'normal'?! I need some positive thinking. The wait's now on for 1st AF, am trying not to stress, but then stressing about that too!

Reading back through the posts, I hope the all SWIers had luck [hsmile]

Hi Liz sorry you have found yourself here but you are very welcome!! A bfn is a very good sign - according to pregnancyloss.co.uk the best website I found - your af is likely to appear 4-6 weeks after your Erpc and around 21 days after you stop bleeding. Mine appeared at 5 weeks exactly 21 days after last bleed but others on here will confirm it is certainly not an exact science!!! Big hugs - the ladies on here are very informative and supportive - hope you are ok. I know exactly what you mean on the wanting to feel normal again.

Evening all! Thanks for hugs everyone, I've cheered up a lot since this afternoon, I'm taking it as a good sign that I seem to rebound from the doom quicker now then previously.... Would be good to get to a stage where I avoid the doom altogether though I guess that's a long way off :( bats I agree, it is a great word. Challenge of the day: find an equally cool word with less depressing connotations to make my favourite word of tomorrow...

Hehe I am very amused by everyone's DS stories!!

inbetweener reckon it's worth getting checked out, fun as it is....

nicks hope you find a way of chilling out! I have no idea how you juggle it all, I can't keep up with the dinner and laundry let alone sort out a little one too...

bats I am absolutely not going to get the fish out for you, I think it sounds genuine!! Eeeek am I allowed to get my hopes up on your behalf?

hi Liz sorry you find yourself here :( I agree with aandr that as perverse as it sounds a BFN is a very good thing at the mo and hopefully AF will be along in not too many weeks.

Have a lovely evening all xx

Damn not a good day [hconfused] shitty everything ra ra ra ra ra!

Welcome Liz, sorry to find you here but we are very happy to have you. BFN is indeed a good sign. My af took almost 6 weeks to arrive after ERPC, so as aandr says, 4- 6 weeks is completely normal.

Oh dear PFF, that can't have been easy at work. How hard that they are completely oblivious to what you're going through. At least you are hopefully home by now and can relax and recharge before you next go in.

Bat I hereby (half heartedly) swing a wet sea bass at you. Half heartedly because a) brown discharge a few days after ov sounds encouraging and b) I'm guilty of the occasional bit of symptom spotting too The 2ww wait is just the worst.

I hope today's appt went well mummya. We're thinking of you and would love to hear the news when you're up to it.

I admire your stamina inbetweener! (and envy your willing DH!) My seduction techniques are obviously completely transparent as after DTD last night, after a short cuddle, DH said somewhat unromantically 'there, I've given you my sperm' and turned over to go to sleep! As some of the others on here I daren't start temping (yet) as I'm sure he'd think I've gone completely over the top. Good luck at the doctors too

Hope you have a good couple of weeks off nicks to recharge. You just staying at home or off somewhere nice?

I had an odd day. I went to see a nutritionist who was highly recommended to me. After talking to me for a few minutes she said 'did you realise I'm a psychotherapist too' (my veneer of calm and control was not fooling her!) and after her asking me a few questions and me blubbing uncontrollably for a few minutes she did some hypnotherapy on me. I was conscious of myself, her, the room, the traffic outside throughout but also felt extremely relaxed and heavy limbed. I have to say something shifted during it. I feel lighter and easier on myself now. I feel more grateful about what I have and have started feeling hopeful about the future. So on that happy thought for the day I shall leave you to warm up in the bath x

Welcome Liz, so sorry for your loss, hope you are able to get lots of support of these girls, they are lovely.

Nix Damn AF, Cant believe it, I was really rooting for you and thought you had caught the BFP, sorry.

LadyBoo sorry you have been feeling down. I get like this quite often and it is usually after having looked at a calendar. Everything is a "should have been" momentous event. I think we all secretly hope we will be pregnant before the 3 cycle is out, but its just numbers, when we do get those babies in our arms, we wont care exactly when they arrived just that they are here. (and in the meantime I am not looking at calendars anymore)

inbetweener I agree with everyone you should get checked, it will save you googling later and getting all scared about the risk of infection. Hope you are ok xxx

glad you are feeling better Pink

I'm off for my appointment a bit later this afternoon. We are 7 hours behind you lot so you will all be tucked up in bed. Catch you later xxx

Good luck mummya let us know how you get on.

batfink I kind of don't want to fish-slap you because it all sounds quite promising to me so will make do with wAving a large haddock threateningly in your direction..

Welcome liz - sorry you're here, I hope you're doing ok and getting lots of support in RL. It is very strange and getting that bfn but just remember that is actually a good sign, anything approaching normality should be welcomed [hsmile]

(((( nicks )))) hope you're ok x

jamface glad you got on with the hypnotherapy, my dsis is a hypnotherapist so I'm kind of a convert without ever actually having tried it! Will you go back to see her again?

oh no Nicks sorry she got you. She has been really naughty this month I think!

I'm thinking of going to see some sort of therapist but I (and DH) keep telling me that I should be able to deal with things on my own! Have had lots of crap growing up etc and I feel like the MC has almost cracked me! Long list of mental health issues in my family too so i dont stand a chance. Anyone been to see one for the MC? Was it helpful?

Went to the hairdresser today to cheer myself up and in the general chit chat she said " do you have any babies?" I told her that she shouldnt ask that sort of question because some people may find it extremely upsetting for various reasons. I find myself wanting to say stuff like that more and more as time goes on.

Anyway, have a good evening
x

Hello girls! Good luck today mummya, let us know how it goes.

What's up nicksteroo, apart from the stupid witch arriving?

jam glad hypno went well, I think it helps lots and lots of people for all sorts of stuff. I got MIL to do some on me and it was good, I know exactly what you mean about being conscious of stuff but not conscious IYSWIM. I don't think I went too far under though as I was finding it too hard not to drown myself from crying so much

velvet ((())) for you, this MC thing is such a huge thing to get your head around that you really shouldn't feel like you've got to do it on your own, and I think that asking for help is actually a brave thing to do. I've never been for counselling but have dabbled with hypnotherapy, reflexology and now acupuncture too and have found them helpful, if only to feel like I'm doing something to improve my chances as I am struggling with the lack of control over any of this... Also, soooo impressed with you telling the hairdresser how it is - that's exactly the sort of thing that I want to say all the time but I never have the bottle. Good for you!! How did she react? xx

Hi velvet, I agree with pff. There's no harm or shame in trying to make things easier for yourself. If 'coping' by yourself means that your head is only just peeping out above the water then maybe you could find some help to get you through this. That said I went to see a counsellor at hospital and she was hopeless, she didn't say anything friends and family hadn't already said and i never went back. Personal recommendations are great, that's how I found out about the woman I saw today and I'd go back to see her like a shot. Whereabouts do you live?
Also, maybe I've got this wrong, but your dh might be a bit like mine (and many other men!?) he is keen to move on after bad events, doesn't question, doesn't analyse. For a while I thought I had to deal with it like him, I.e be 'strong', move on. But the fact is I don't, and nor do you. It's ok to deal with it however you want to.
Sorry if I misread the situation, it's just that it was a recent revelation that I had x

Evening ladies & a warm welcome to wonderif & lizhappyfeet you have found a lovely place to rant laugh cry & all the other emotions on this rollercoster... Hope the stay is short and sweet x
nicks feel your pain regarding work. So wish I was a stay at home mum. It's worse now as ds is at pre school so I only have him for half a day on days off. Sometimes I wonder about bringing another child into this world...in fact I get so jelous of my mum & dad & even dh who finishes work at 4 pm (parents do the child minding we are blessed) think I will do lotto this week!! Hope time off does the trick xxxx
jam nicks son's!!!! They are bonkers...my friends little boy had a fasination with poo... Her house was destroyed for about 3 months when he would go hide let one out a then plaster it anywhere it took his fancy...she was at her wits end yuck.
Jam hope you enjoy your bath..sorry you were feeling a bit down earlier but your appointment sounded quite helpful...will you go again?.... Think we all could prob do with shifting some baggage..x
betweener best to get it checked out... Peace of mind & all that.. Hey fx some of that swi ends with a little blue bundle of fun!!!! I would love another boy as now girls scare me a bit but of course I'd be over the moon with either!!!
Obat me too spotting yesterday & a teensy bit today so hard not to get hopes up.. I had a bit too much time on my hands today found myself putting dates into my old pregnancy apps!!!!! So bad as due date would be my Bday....couldn't help myself..

Big hugs to mummya velvet ppf boo and anyone else lurking xxx

I wonder what would be discussed if our DH/DPs had a thread like this ....

Sport music politics stuff round town if dh is anything to go by....he's a bit of a lurker too but he does face book...& has thus totatly put me right off it...due to time spent checking out what others are up to while on my rare weekends off...so god knows how long he is on it whilst I'm at work poor ds........

Oooooophs wasn't ment to rant there as I think it is a fantastic invention used correctely

Velvet, I have had counselling and it was a really good experience for me, I always recommend it to everyone, you have got nothing to lose trying it out. I had tried couples counselling when my DH (who was then my fiance) was in a traffic accident and lost his foot. It affected our relationship loads and we came out of counselling so much stronger. Later when I fell pregnant I got some counselling on my own, I did it intensively and went in with some specific goals that I had worked out myself and came out a few weeks later feeling really empowered with the decisions I had made. and most recently DH and I went back to the couples therapist during the mc and it really helped loads. I would say though, that not all counsellors are the same. We saw 2 that were rubbish before we found a good one. It is very important that you like them and feel at ease. If you dont, the whole thing is pointless, just walk away and find someone else. Most counsellors have specialities, e.g. anger management, drug dependancies, grief etc. Call ahead and ask about relevant specialities, and experience before you make the appointment. I have come to believe that good counselling will help you get over something quicker than if you struggle to work through it all by yourself, so I totally recommend it. Lots of MNers have recommended the miscarriage association as a very good source for counselling but I have got no experience personally. xxxx

So, the docs was a mixed experience. Good because I got the HSG referral I wanted, bad because I was back in the bloody stirrups again. Nix, I heard the snipping sounds too, what IS that? He was trying to do some whizzy new thing with 4D scan and a water filled uterus but couldnt because my uterus was "too closed" (damn right after all that bleedin prodding and poking, who wouldnt bolt the doors?) So the plan is, 8 more days of the pill, more blood tests 8 days after that to see if there is some credible hormonal explanation for the lack of periods, and if not then on to the HSG. At least I have a respite period before I am back in the stirrups again.

oh and I think I might need to work on my relationship some more too... as we walked out DH sighed quietly that "he (the doctor) has now seen your fanny more times than I have"

Hello lovelies (mwah!)

RANT ALERT

Shitty fucking horrid wankshitty nasty crap arse bugger of a day :( Not to do with AF just shit shit shit... maybe one day when some things improve i will enlighten you! It doesnt help when you feel like you are hanging on by a thread to have to deal with other crap hanging over you too ! Rubbish day at work, my stress levels i can feel go up as soon as i look at my bberry in the morning, and i can feel it in my shoulders...so need acu or a massage! Totally Ok ish not, about AF, why do you imagine symptoms if they dont fucking bloodywell exist?!?! My boobs were fuller, peeing for england, cramps since 7 dpo clearly i am totally delusional :(.... oh and more spots, gee... my week just gets better and better....

So i came home and took it out on the wallpaper... now it has big airbubbles! (oh well its only lining!)
[hangry] [hangry] [hangry] [hangry]
RANT OVER

Jam i meant that i had 2 week reprieve and rest from SWI rather than off work! Wishing for 2 weeks off :( JamLolly i think the little lads are hilarious. I just not really knowing what to say when i see DS with his willy in his hand, pants discarded inspecting it... especially when watching toy story 2 as he has a thing for Jessie! What do you say to that?! "Yes it sticks up, thats what happens when you play with it" [hgrin] I would love another boy, half of me thinks that maybe the one we lost was a girl! Some women can only carry one sex cant they? lolly you are blessed with gparents. I work 4 days straight, split by 2 nursery and 2 with GP's&cousins. He loves it so thats fab!

Bats not a chance of whacking you with the whale, i peed on sticks all week but didnt dare mention it [hblush][hbiscuit]

velvet well done you on the subtle "shut the fuck hell up silly cow for asking me about babies" I will steal it!. I dont think you are wrong for thinking of therapy at all. We all find our own ways of coping, whatever they are! I would have family, marriage, and myself counselling if i could afford it! totally get you, everyone else has moved on and my life is still static in that painful shitty mode i want to forget. (DS is obviously excluded from that) Vel it doesnt necessarily have to be a therapist, could just as well be someone who is prepared to just sit and listen, sadly sometimes DH's dont [hsad]

Mummy thinking of you today

fondant glad our stories amuse you about DC, sometimes i feel we shouldnt post about kids on MC thread... in case it upsets others. Anyone, if it does please tell me :) so i can be more considerate.

today my thoughts are clouded but.... my happy thought is i love my son more than life itself and he is the sole reason i want another one :)

sorry for the ranting.... sometimes everything just kinda topples me a bit...happier tomorrow xxxxx

Mums Xposts

Aaah stirrups, not good not good! Snipping i know, hideous isnt it?! Amazed you managed to keep your legs akimbo with the threat of a balloon like, water filled womb... well done, i would have been out of there like a shot!!! [hgrin] at your DH and the fanny comment. Brill he was there with you and fab you have a bit more clarity if you can call it that, but direction is probably a better word.... heres hoping for the credible hormonal explanation in a couple of weeks xxxxxxx

velvet the paragraph above was meant to read... totally get you (full stop) Everyone else has moved on and etc etc I was referring to myself in the second part of the sentance!! sorry if it didnt make any sense!

Night night all love lots xxxxx

Hi folks

just a quick hi.

Welcome wonderif and lizhappyfeet

mummy just zoomed over your report. Lol at your DHs comment. Hmmm guess you can yo for it tonight. Wishing you luck for the next 8 days. Damn right that our body bolts the door in moments like that.

Completely agree that therapy can be really helpful and life chaning. After severe burn out I went through a lot of therapy and would def fo it again. Have a phycologist/psychiatrist who is lovely. Will see her in a couple of months again. I used to think it was just for loopy people. Me loopy???? Never!!!!!

Nicks sorry AF paid you a visit

also getting the 3 month blues .....

Sorry I can't remember what I just read from last
couple of days. Feelng backto normal now luckily. Flying home tomorrow but might have chance to pop in if my iPhone holds up on my Europe roaming account.

Hugs everyone
and special Foxs choccy bics with hot choc for everyone tonight. Hmmmmmm