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We're taking the train...some now boarding, some delays, some still standing on the platform! TTC 'Waiters' IIT!

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bebejones · 20/09/2010 07:59

Old thread here

Welcome aboard, make yourselves comfy I have a feeling it's going to be a bumpy ride! Wink

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strawberrypie · 14/11/2010 20:58

Hello everybody!

Congratulations on 12 weeks and interview jbells!
Congratulations on new (BFH free) job JS!
Congratulations on interview AC!
Congratulations on test results (and thoroughness of list) bebe!
Congratulations on engagement 100years!

Phew....Busy old week on here!

I have been really busy, sorry for not posting much for a while but I have been reading and trying to keep up :)

I did a (don't laugh) powerboat driving course this weekend and passed my assessment! Yey! I can now help out a bit more with providing safety cover for children doing water activities.

catch you later ladies :)

bebejones · 14/11/2010 21:12

That sounds like fun!! Much more interesting than my weekend!

Nannyl - was considering stepping on the September bus Confused just to wave at everyone! Alot of TTC depends on what AF decides to do because of my 'safe' date of 24th Dec. So technically I could be on for a September baby (if I can convince DH, although that is looking a bit more positive). Don't want to 'jump the gun', coz I won't be able to take up a seat til the 24th...or anytime after the 10th if I'm still awaiting AF! Who knows?!

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nannyl · 14/11/2010 21:29

hello strawberry

congrats on your powerboat course Smile
I have level 3 and my daddy is a power boat instructor!
I love zooming around in a RIB Smile (ca also sail dingies, yachts and motor yachts!)

bebe why not join us on the september bus anyway?

Ive got a manic week ahead so will read this thread but not get much chance to reply!

AmandaCooper · 14/11/2010 22:11

Haven't read anything - just wanted to say:

Ten days till the September bus arrives!!! Form a nice orderly queue ladies and have your tickets ready for inspection.

George and Jake, our bags please!

AmandaCooper · 14/11/2010 22:25

The sooner we get on with it the better, those of us without DC are upsetting the natives with our childlessness!

MumNWLondon Sun 14-Nov-10 21:00:35 I have less of a problem with dads posting than with people who don't have children posting.

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AmandaCooper · 14/11/2010 22:43

I'm sure she's joking. Or maybe running around after all her DC has driven her bonkers.

Anyway I just got back from a deliciously relaxing and hugely indulgent spa weekend in London with my sis and cousin, so I can hardly get mad. Was enthusiastically sharing the gospel of TCOYF in the jacuzzi, which I think they found quite odd!

Well done Strawberry on your powerboat course, I hope the luck of this thread holds out for my interview! Bebe your DH just has to buckle under the awesome power of this MN thread, you cannot fail. Also your list if awesome. Well done!

JS I second what's been said about the job, it must be a nice confidence boost, which is something you can carry forward into your new role. What a shame noone is motivated to nip these problems in the bud and their minds are only focusing now it's too late.

Squirrel the interview is a telephone interview on Tuesday. I really hate telephone interviews, it's so hard when you're not face to face with someone to gauge whether you're saying the right things. I know the poster on that other thread probably didn't mean to criticise us, I supported everything else she said, particularly thinking of my morning after pill escapade. Thanks for soothing me!

AmandaCooper · 15/11/2010 07:09

Oops I stand corrected: the September bus appears to be special and has turned up two weeks before schedule! Nannyl is already aboard!

Sadly DH made it only too clear last night (and not in a nice way) that I won't be on board this bus or any other ever and that I am to quit this "lunatic cult" MN that is "causing me to want to have children" and "see a psychologist". Sad

AmandaCooper · 15/11/2010 07:10

Maybe he is right, I do seem to be talking to myself...

JustShaggingForNow · 15/11/2010 07:52

AC you're not the only one on here! Very cross at your DH for his "lunatic cult" comment. We could say the same about football or rugby fans.....!

Hope he was just having a bad day and saying things he didn't mean.

Good luck for tomorrow's telephone interview. I know what you mean about not being able to pick up on body language clues but am sure you will be brilliant. Plus, you have the power of the train on your side!!!

AmandaCooper · 15/11/2010 08:18

I do have the power of the train! Thanks JS. I'm really confused now. Should I quit MN and get counselling, as requested, just so I can say I've been reasonable and given it a shot? Perhaps couples counselling would make more sense. Does anyone know how you go about organising such a thing?

bebejones · 15/11/2010 08:34

AC - he changes his mind like the wind your DH doesn't he?! Hmm As for 'lunatic cult', how rude!!! MN is a great source of emotional support for a lot of women wanting children! Which maybe the women on that other thread ought to realise as well!

Good luck for the telephone interview!

Having a nightmare start to the day! The toilet has blocked! This happens alot, partly to do with the ridiculous & old drain system in our Victorian house (toilet not that old obviously) so now I have to go & get some drain clearing stuff. Not fun, DH will probably spend most of his evening having to sort it out, otherwise we will have to call a plumber!

Got a very busy day today, so probably ought to leave the asylum MN! Wink

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AmandaCooper · 15/11/2010 08:58

Bebe I hope you get it sorted out, what a pain!

I do have some sympathy for DH. It must be only too easy to crack now and then and offer me a crumb, to have a break from being cast as the bad guy all the time. It's me who reneged on the agreement not to have children and there's many on here who'd say that's the end of the matter.

Quodlibet · 15/11/2010 09:41

Ooh AC your DH makes me cross, but probably because he shares some of the traits of my DP. You can't help it if you are thinking a lot about having children, it's not like you're purposefully refusing to stop thinking about it! And surely it's better for you to have some outlet (ie MN) to talk about those frustrations, if, like me, your partner resents 'having to talk about it all the time'.

WRT your agreement, surely part of any marriage/relationship is that you allow for the fact that your partner may change over time? It seems unrealistic to me to think you can know that you'll never want children any more than you could 'know' that you'll never want to quit the city and move to the country, or any other big life change. Couples counselling doesn't sound like too bad an idea in my opinion, at least it would guarantee you a time/place to discuss all this in full and work through it, rather than feeling (as I often do) that you are asking for a massive favour just to discuss your feelings and something that is important to you?

DP and I had a similar argument over the weekend; I'd been reading Baby Hunger (don't do it, it's terrifying) and so was thinking about the issues of how late we leave TTC and the fact that we're currently allowing work to take priority, which all my instincts are telling me is wrong-headed. He's at the point where work is taking up so much of his head/life/our house and time together Angry that he just doesn't have space to think or talk about anything else. So he resents me trying to have conversations about TTC, and I resent his work! At least we've got it all out in the open now. And we're going away together for a month (hurrah) over Xmas so we'll finally have much needed space and time to talk properly.

My point is I suppose that if this is what we are thinking about a lot, then this is what we are thinking about and they need to help and support that thinking, even if it's a difficult for them, rather than requiring us to do some sort of bizarre and impossible mind control. MN is neither here nor there. Why is it OK to be 'obsessed' with all sorts of other things (football, work, F1, playstation etc) but if a woman is 'obsessed' about child-bearing then obviously she is irrational and hysterical, even though it's the single biggest thing which will impact your life, and therefore worthy of a lot of thought!? Grrrrrr!

Rant over, as you were.

JustShaggingForNow · 15/11/2010 09:56

Well said Quod!!

I think that couples counselling could be a really good route to go down AC. If he thinks that you need counselling for your participation in a "lunatic cult" then he is obviously an advocate of it and so should have no reason to be against couple counselling.

I was totally against the whole "therapy" thing until I was told that I had to go by my family when i was having a really awful time a few years ago and I can really vouch for the benefit of it. It's pretty horrible at the time but it certainly help to talk about problems (whatever they may be)

Can't believe that this thread is nearly finished...... perhaps the next one should be renames the TTC Asylum!!! Wink

bebejones · 15/11/2010 13:49

Afternoon loonies! Wink

AC - counselling could be really good. DH & I had some counselling, together & separately, when I was diagnosed with my MS. We talked through all sorts of stuff & it did really help. We were given the details of the lady we saw through our GP, so maybe that would be a good place to start? Have been thinking lately that I would like to go & see her again, so much rattling around in my head! It's much healthier to let it out & someone independant who just listens is always good!

Quod - you always put things so well! Couldn't agree more, could have written parts of your post about DH!

Can't believe we have almost filled this thread!

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AmandaCooper · 15/11/2010 18:53

Quod you are indeed very wise. I would find this very hard without all of you guys to buoy me up when things get choppy. There are certainly a fair few loons on MN but they're not on this thread and I'm grateful for all the support I get from you guys.

I think reading anything along the lines of baby hunger is not a good idea for me. I can't do any more than I am doing to move this along so except for leaving DH and looking to take up with a more family orientated chap (looney MN advice) or tricking DH into fatherhood (looney MN advice), or striking out on my own with a sperm donor (I think that one was from Opera!) I just have to live with the risk that I'll run out of time and cope with having no timetable to plan career decisions around.

You and your DP seem to be similarly minded to us. I do agree with DH that this isn't perfect timing for career, money, property purchase, etc, and I'm completely in agreement about the fear factor, not feeling ready and can't quite get my head around it. Where we differ, and where I suspect you and DP differ is on risk aversion/tolerance. I don't want to gamble, whereas DH is quite happy to. Weird that you compared it with footbal etc. DH compared my obsessing about DC with him having a hypothetical obsession about buying a Porsche 911 and insisting on getting one even though it would quite obviously bankrupt us.

When I was charting I was terrified I wouldn't be ovulating. I'm still not 100% sure that I was. My inclination is to put my reservations about ttc aside so as to avoid the risk of (particularly secondary) infertility.

Good to hear positive feedback about counselling. I got the number for Relate today. Now just to broach it with DH.

jbells · 15/11/2010 19:03

evening all

hope everybody is doing well, went to see my midwife today to see how i go about changin hospitals, i was pleasantly surprised to see it was the midwfe who dealt withmy after care and therefore is very understanding of the way im feeling as she knows wot i went thru as regards to the swab infections etc, sad to say but i hadto hold back the tears when speaking to her as it bought the whole thing back to me

DD also had 2 injections today felt so guilty and had to hold back my tears then to :(

been catching up on the insane asylum, my DP wud prob agree that i need a white coat lol

AC- has your DP had bad week and mayb he is just venting at u? i do agree with quod everyone has a rite to change there mind i mean im sure there are people who have said they want 4 kids and then decide to have none for some reason, i have heard good things about RELATE couples councelling and it is free aswell they have a website online that u can see what ones are in the local area, hope your interview goes well

strawberry- wow a powerboat course congrats wot an xciting thing to do

bebe- i am glad that convincing DH to start ttc agen soon is looking more positive

oh cant remember wether i sed or not but got offered the job but the bad news is it isonly 5.5 hrs on a sunday i thought it was 4 hrs sat and 4 hrs sunday, but atleast its work will have to look for something else aswell, im trying DD with goats milk from now on to c if it helps with her mucus build up

AmandaCooper · 15/11/2010 19:12

Hi JBells. That's really good news about your midwife. Sorry you had to be reminded of your previous bad experience but it's good that you get to talk it over with a professional who understands what you're talking about and knows you.

Good news about the job as well and hopefully you can find something else to go with it, or it will grow into something more. Lucky train!

jbells · 15/11/2010 19:20

thanks AC- i do feel really fortunate that i will have the same midwife who dealt with my aftercare from having DD, she even wants to me to ring her when i my apt thru for hosp so she can come and speak to consultant with me i am so happy to have someone on board that knows exactly wot i went thru last time, how r things with u and dP, i do feel like mn can become addictive but so can facebook, and computer games and stuff, my DP shows no interest in MN i know he thinks facebook is for loosers tho so he prob has the same opinion on this lol

bebejones · 15/11/2010 19:39

My Dh takes the piss out of me & my MN obsession habit! But I think he thinks it is preferable to me going on at him all the time! :o

JBells - I think it's so important to have a medical profesional who know what your 'previous history' is. I feel the same about my MS. It really helps when they just know what you went through without just looking at notes! Glad MW is being so supportive, I'm sure it will help.
Good news on job, shame it's not more hours though.

Meant to ask if anyone else has been watching 'Natalie Cassidy: becoming a mum' on E4? I love her, she is so down to earth. Thought she was fab on strictly & she is so sweet & funny in this programme.

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Quodlibet · 15/11/2010 23:04

AC the Porsche comparison is ludicrous if you don't mind me saying. It's not at all similar in any way! Hence why very few people have Porsches and a great many people have children...

My DP actually quite loves the idea of us having kids. It's just the point of that turning into a reality! He's so caught up in this career thing that has been his raison d'etre for his entire adult life that he can't really countenance anything getting in the way of that going as well as it can do. Short sighted in my opinion but there you go. Am going to try getting him to read The Terrible Book of Infertility Nightmares aka Baby Hunger instead cos I have definitely thoroughly absorbed the point.

JBells that is really positive news about your midwife, must be so reassuring.

Going to be a really sad few days for me - found out today that my parents have decided that it's time for one of my now very old dogs to be put to sleep - she's stopped eating and is 'fading away' apparently. I'm going down to see them tomorrow to be there when it happens on Wednesday. Gutting - we've had her since I was 17.

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AmandaCooper · 16/11/2010 00:06

No no no don't worry look at all the other threads on this and you'll see that you have to time these tests just at the right second of the day when you ov or you can blink and miss it.

bebejones · 16/11/2010 08:22

AC - agree the porsche comment is a bit Hmm Biscuit Did you manage to ask DH about the counselling?

WW - With the OPK thing, I'm sure I've heard of people testing 3 or more times regularly throughout the day. It really is such a small window that you have to detect it in! Don't worry!
Hence the reason I've decided to wait until we are 'trying' before I waste the OPKs, might get through a few!!
Loving Natalie Cassidy! :o Did feel really sorry for her when her OH got plastered at the festival Hmm MEN!!!

Quod - So sorry about your dog :(

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AmandaCooper · 16/11/2010 08:56

I was sorry to hear about your dog too Quod, they are like one of the family aren't they? So sad for you.

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