Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

[rowingboat]

Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

Too early for spelling clearly...!

Fingers crossed things aren't too scratchy BB

Scan showed nada really today. Lining 3.7 and ovaries as follicly as normal for PCOs. Will be called tonight if they want me to up the Puregon, if not I stay on 50 with scans/bloods on Friday. Not sure if this is good/bad/indifferent

Hi all,

we are all having a time of it aren't we!

BB I hope your DS sails through it if it is chickenpox. How old is he?
Have you had chickenpox?

Italian that sounds as if the work thing has worked out well for you. YOu don't want to be doing fertility treatment whilst working late and doing power lunches! (Don't think I ever want to to a power lunch)

Vallin so is the 3.7 the growth in the endometrium since the baseline scan. YOu had no activity and no nothing at the last one did you! I take it you have 5 trillion follies then? How lovely, Vallin is having 5 trillion babies!

LAW poo! I can't imagine the state of the t-shirts after your trip. Did you start borrowing your DH's clothes?

Lissy have you had your curves assessed yet?

Things aren't looking for for this FET. The doctor has said that if the bleeding hasn't stopped by tonight he wants to cancel the cycle. Which is all very well for him, but he hasn't booked flights, time off etc....
Feel like shouting at him for putting me on these stupid oestrogen tablets. Not taking them next time if the cycle is cancelled.
I wonder if they have worked too well and the endometrium is too thick, hence the bleeding.
Should probably have gone for a scan, at least I would know what was going on.
So I'm trying some lady's mantle tea and might take some of the progesterone to see if it stops the bleeding.
If it is still going in the morning I will email him and cancel.
I felt like crying when he emailed about cancelling, but they don't like that sort of thing at work.

rowing happy to have a joint cry if you would like.

bloody plumbers (can i name them on here???!!!) i told them what bloody part they needed for the bloody boiler. the guy turned up AT THE ONLY TIME i said i couldnt be here... so had to get friend to let him in... 2 mins look. said it was EXACTLY the part i told them we needed (do they think i am bloody stupid...) ordered it... and NOW wont be here til FRIDAY. another 0800-1800 appt. I do have to work. its not even my bloody boiler. i am a tennant. DD has a chest infection. I had to send her to daycare today as it would be too cold to keep her here. too angry for words.

LAW Can you get a hot bath somewhere, just go and bang on someone's door and demand a hot bath...and toast...with jam!
How demoralising!
Going to be fantastic on Friday though! [trying to look on the bright side]

Just no sign of the bleeding stopping, what a disaster. It's making me laugh because it's so crap.

thanks rowing my landlord is supposed to be a friend and when i texted and said i wasnt going to be able to be at home on friday and that he would have to arrange access... he said that he could come if he was given enough notice . its kinda his boiler. so in theory he should have been in the last 2 times a plumber has been here this week. he hasnt even offered a warm bath (he lives nearby) or a heater... never mind. the maintenance guy at DD daycare was sooo lovely and lent us a heater and my real friend has let us use his bathroom...

that really truly sucks about the bleeding... but there is still time no?

Hi all,
LAW good news about the bath and the heater. Rubbish poo about your 'lovely' friend/landlord. Bet he would be there with bells on if it were his boiler in his own house.

Not sure about bleeding. Think it's all over for this month.
Sigh!

Hi all,

BB that sounds like my local court! Actually, they all seem a bit 'shitsville' inside (not that I'm inside them very often )
5 spots, that's not bad. If he is quite young it could be a breeze. My DS had cpox at around 18 months and didn't have many spots or symptoms.
AF stay away/go away!

bb that sucks.

take care of yourself today.

but have you tested anyway? sometimes bleeding doesnt mean there is no hope? could you ring the clinic?

Hi all,
BB it doesn't sound ideal, but it might be worth going for your blood test. Women have had bleeding and still been pg, there can be other reasons for bleeding.
I know how you feel though, this is gruelling.
Hope court goes OK.

My news is that bleeding is continuing and I have emailed the clinic to cancel. I was feeling really sad last night, but not quite so bad this morning. Probably hit later.
We aren't allowed any annual leave until the end of January because of a move of premises and under-staffing so won't be able to do anything until Feb now.
This experience has really put me off doing a medicated FET. The last two FETs went smoothly, apart from the oldie eggs. Only problem is I can move my flights, but not sure what date to give the airline.
Might just tell them Pancake day and hope I can move them again if necessary.
If not I will fly over and have pancakes - if they do pancakes in Prague?

Rowing - yep, 3.7 since baseline (1.6). As for 5 trillion babies maybe I'll tell DH that's waht it means - I keep joking we'll end up like that guy on the LloydsTSB ad who keeps being handed the babies.

Incredibly frustrating about the bleeding for you. I have my fingers crossed there is some way around it.

LAW how annoying, especially with a sick child.

Oh BB I am really sorry to hear, i don't really know what to say

Hi all,

Vallin I'm knitting! I've done 500 booties so far!

Not good here. Had to cancel the FET so a bit poooo and feeling very deflated. DS is pleased I'm not going (sweet). Somebody loves me!
The doctor said I am unlikely to ovulate this cycle and really I don't know whether to class this bleeding as AF or something else.
We are going to aim for Jan/Feb next attempt, but he hasn't mentioned whether I need to take oestrogen. I'm not sure if I had too much or too little.

BB so sorry. Don't make any decisions now, just relax if you can and be nice to yourself.

Thinking of you, dear BB.

Rowing sorry for you that things are not working out exactly as planned! But Jan/Feb is not far away! Hope it happens soon, maybe we could be cycle buddies, whatever happens I just hope all will go well with you.

Can't name check but love to all.

Hi Italian,
how are things on the job front? Are you actually working in the place where you have the contract until next year. Sorry I got a bit mixed up.
I am now trying to move the flights, but obviously, it is a bit of a wet finger in the air to check the wind direction, kind of thing.
I have emailed the clinic again to see if they can help. I won't be very impressed if they can't.
Also asked whether I would be following the same regime again the next time, given the failure.

BB--I'm so sorry about AF arriving. Please take a deep breath and treat yourself to lovely things. Thinking of you.

Rowing--Totally sucks about your AF too! As Italian said, Jan/Feb is not too far away at all!

Val--How's it going?

Late--Are you warm and toasty yet?

AFM, I went to see the consultant yesterday. He was an extremely nice man, spent an hour with DH and me. He said that he would take our case, but gave me a "what if ten or twelve tries down the line you're still not pregnant? What would you do?" Total downer! Although my AMH is on the high side of low fertility, I'm not about to give up trying and go with donor eggs. Especially given my response in my first IVF cycle. I'm only 36, I've been pregnant once, and there's no reason to believe I can't get pregnant again. Still going to open evening at CRGH and consultation at ARGC, despite the fact that DH really liked the guy from yesterday. We're likely to go with him, as he said that every aspect of the cycle from Day 1 would be seen to personally by him, which would be a nice change from the cash-cow clinics.

Love, hugs, and biscuits to all. Have a good weekend...

Hey ladies - I hope all is good this evening.

I have been upped to 100 whatevers of Puregon as nada waking my ovaries! Scan and bloods on Monday.

Just plodding along! Off to the Rugby tomorrow so that should thoroughly freeze my eggs!

BB thinking of you.

Horton hugs.

LissySilver can't believe a consultant would say about what if not pregnant after 10 tries etc. I think just ignore that comment and stay positive. I think if you are concerned about problems can you look into the tests etc that we have talked about before, Bagofholly spoke about them before a lot. Anyway, I really don't think it is going to take 10 goes to get you up duff. Just hang on in there sweetie.

Val wrap up warm for the rugby; you are a braver woman than I!

Rowing sending hugs and baby dust your way for whenever you do the deed. Yes, I am still working in the place I have been working for over three years. It is my longest ever permanent job (having worked in restaurants as a youngster and then later as an English Language Teacher I was not given many permanent contracts). The reality is that I have only ever had three permanent contacts in my life and two of them have been part-time (so in the last 6 years!). I am now moving to my third position and third team in my current organisation. I was so stressed about what would happen and so much wanted to stay in my old team but I feel really peaceful and happy. I know it sounds crazy but I do feel I am where God wants me to be and in terms of fertility treatment I am in an even more flexible team than I was - so really the green light is on for the treatment if it can happen in the next few months!

Now ladies, I need some inspiration/advice/kicking up my arse!

1. What is the best way to take folic acid, is it just straight folic acid or some sort of weird combo thingy. My pack of 100 is finally running out and I need to replenish stocks!

2. I am totally and utterly un-diet-minded and after numerous problems with work etc and having to work days I didn't normally due to illness (DD) and other stuff I missed lots of fitness sessions! . I am finally back at Rosemary Conley THIS Wednesday. WILL BE mortified if I have a) lost nothing, b) even worse!! put on weight. The house is a shrine to cakes thanks to DD's birthday and I finally got strong and THREW AWAY a small pile of Pringles because if I looked at that wicked, winking tube again I knew I would eat the lot! So can you inspire me!! I am going to PRAY as much as I can for diet help - as I must say (I am NOT being overly dramatic here I am being realistic) that only God can help me! I am addicted to just about everything except fruit and veg! Even ice cream which I dislike (sorry Lissy) tempts me! So while I am busy praying can anyone give me anything to hang on to (and, no, a bread stick won't do!).

Thank you lovely, sweet, honey ladies

....mmm... honey!!!

Hugs, baby-dust and honey to all

Italian you are turning into the honey monster before my eyes.
I love those ads. Why does the monster call everybody 'mummy?' My DS thinks it is hilarious when the monster calls the school boy mummy.
Diet-wise I have been there and it isn't fun. YOu just can't have cake/biscuits/crisps none of it in the house. Find something sweet, but fairly innocuous to eat like ice lollies or low fat hot choc drinks and have those when you feel a strong craving then only allow yourself fruit after 10pm if you still want to binge. At least you will top up your vitamins.
You will soon be back in the saddle. Definitely get back to the exercise, it makes such a difference.
I'm still doing the exercise bike. Sometimes I only manage three sessions a week, but it is significantly better than none.
Also walk as much as you can, to the shop, to school, to after-school activities, just whenever you can. It's so hard in this weather to get out and do much.
Big hugs and no biscuits!!

Rowing thanks I like the idea of binging on fruit!

Hugs to all.

BINGE-ING I mean!

Italian I take Sanatagen Mother and Baby, and cod liver oil separately - partly because I just read vitamin D deficiency is a big prob with PCOS and a high percentage of women who have IVF failures are deficient in it. Can't hurt, right?!

Diet advice...hmmmm...I really can't have 'bad' stuff in the house as I gobble it...DH has a bitch of a metabolism and can eat anything and remain a rake so we always have biscuits, sweets and crisps which makes my life hard!! Other than everything you know already...plenty of protein, wholegrain carbs, fruit, veg etc...some things I resort to are: brushing my teeth when tempted as it makes anything for the next 30 mins taste like crap, took up knitting in front of the telly to stop TV nibbling, sniffing grapefruit oil is meant to help with cravings but I found peppermint oil (which I bought to help pep up my energy levels) better - similar to tooth paste!

Also just try to walk, take stairs etc...

Hope that helps xx