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Do you have a minds eye

205 replies

PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 02:03

A bit of fun here to see how many MN have Aphantasia. I’ve posted in competitions as I’m guessing people who enjoy them might find this interesting.

This is the ability to see images in our minds.
To simply test this.
Close your eyes and imagine a red star.
Can you see one and to what extent,
Post here which image you see numbers 1-6 as you imagine that star .

Please note there is nothing wrong if you can’t see a star about 2-3% of the population can’t either.

Im also doing AIBU to get a quick tally
AIBU - what star? Can people see a star?
IANBU - I see a star can’t everyone ?

Do you have a minds eye
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Snozzlemaid · 27/02/2024 05:35

I'm number 1 too, there's nothing there no matter how much I concentrate.
It is strange as I clearly know what a red star is and could draw it but just can't see it in my mind.
I'm no good at interior design as I just cannot picture what a room would look like until it's actually done. And the same with clothes, I can never picture what an outfit may look like on me.

Pixiesgirl · 27/02/2024 05:42

Some people with aphantasia also don't have an inner monologue. I honestly don't think we have adequate language to describe what that must be like. (Probably do, I just don't know it hah).

Emma8888 · 27/02/2024 05:43

I can picture things as if they were a photograph (for example, a very sweet looking otter after reading the previous post), and it isn't always deliberate. I read the word otter and my brain immediately flashed up an otter as part of reading the post. It would be impossible for me to read 'rainbow' without seeing the colours of a rainbow.

Do others recall where things are based on a recent mental snapshot? For example if I think of my kitchen counter, I 'see' the coffee maker, next to the kettle, with the pasta jars (and approximately how full they are), the bread bin with the half loaf, etc. It makes finding items very easy (I can, without moving, tell you where my bag, keys, hairbrush, iPad, etc etc are - none have set homes - but I can also tell you where the Paris metro card, the bug bite zapper, the gift card for a coffee shop I rarely go to, etc. all are, despite not having seen them for many months, again no set home for them, I can just conjure the image of where they are. Makes grocery shopping simple as I can see if I have yogurt in the fridge, or curry sauce in the cupboard by just thinking (less useful for milk or eggs as I can't see how full they are if I haven't touched them!)

Many images also endure. I recently drew a plan of a house I lived in when I was four (since it was claimed there is no possible way I could remember) We never went to the house again after we moved and there are no photos of most of the house (a few birthday photos of the family room for birthdays and Christmas). I got the layout spot on, and had the colours of the rooms including curtains correct too.

I rely on pictures for so much of my daily life, I'm not sure how I could get by without them (work, home life, even things like driving, I don't need to use sat nav if I've been somewhere before).

Overthebow · 27/02/2024 05:47

Pixiesgirl · 27/02/2024 05:42

Some people with aphantasia also don't have an inner monologue. I honestly don't think we have adequate language to describe what that must be like. (Probably do, I just don't know it hah).

So they’re going around and it’s blank inside them? No voice, images or videos? How do they think?

Pixiesgirl · 27/02/2024 05:48

It's odd isn't it, I know what my kitchen looks like as a general rule. I could draw a plan of my childhood house, but at no point does any of that involve pictures. I just know, because, well, I experienced those things Hmm

Garlickit · 27/02/2024 05:52

Mark Lawrence, my current favourite author, writes complex fantasy novels. He has a real gift for getting inside his character's heads. He has aphantasia. It clearly doesn't stop him thinking or imagining.

"I reject the description of aphantasia as a defect or a lack. I see it as an alternative. You see a horse if asked to imagine one. I find this rather limiting."

It is amazing how very differently our minds work!

Aphantasia | Mark Lawrence

https://www.marklawrence.buzz/story/aphantasia/

Pixiesgirl · 27/02/2024 05:52

Absolutely no clue @Overthebow tbh.

No idea if this is right, but I think maybe my subconscious can picture stuff, but not my conscious brain. Feels right to me, I have crackers technicolour dreams.

Slavetomycat · 27/02/2024 05:53

I see absolutely nothing, much as I try hard!

Wallywobbles · 27/02/2024 05:56

6

RantyAnty · 27/02/2024 05:57

6 sometimes halfway asleep I can see like entire scenes of things.

Pixiesgirl · 27/02/2024 06:00

I can't think about all of this too much along with nature of reality stuff or I have a very real existential crisis hah.

IncompleteSenten · 27/02/2024 06:10

Luckycloverz · 27/02/2024 05:25

So for those of you that can't see things if someone described a random pink spotted dragon wearing a hat, you wouldn't be able to picture it?? So interesting how the mind works.

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No. There's no image. It's just the grey nothing colour of closed eyes.

I know what the colour pink looks like. I know what a dragon is drawn to look like. If you showed me a drawing I'd immediately know you'd drawn a pink dragon. I just wouldn't be able to see it in a picture in my head

Izzy24 · 27/02/2024 08:56

IncompleteSenten · 27/02/2024 06:10

No. There's no image. It's just the grey nothing colour of closed eyes.

I know what the colour pink looks like. I know what a dragon is drawn to look like. If you showed me a drawing I'd immediately know you'd drawn a pink dragon. I just wouldn't be able to see it in a picture in my head

This is really difficult for me to grasp- reading the previous posts on this page I have had image after image in my mind whilst reading them.

So you read the posts and see nothing but the screen you are reading from ?

DuchessNope · 27/02/2024 09:13

I’ve always really struggled with what people mean when they say they “see” a red star. So when you shut your eyes you don’t see just some darkness it’s actually there like looking at a picture? I can imagine very accurately what a red star looks like but my eyes are just seeing black (or grey depending on how light the room is). Same as how I have an internal monologue but I’d never mistake it for hearing words.

PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:16

Snozzlemaid · 27/02/2024 05:35

I'm number 1 too, there's nothing there no matter how much I concentrate.
It is strange as I clearly know what a red star is and could draw it but just can't see it in my mind.
I'm no good at interior design as I just cannot picture what a room would look like until it's actually done. And the same with clothes, I can never picture what an outfit may look like on me.

I’m an architect and see nothing.
But according to scientists that have only recently researched this lots of people who see nothing are artists
But I agree with the clothes thing. Maybe that’s why I hate shopping and can never find anything I like I have to try everything on.

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PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:18

PiggieWig · 27/02/2024 02:28

Mine’s a 3 but when I mentally picture something it’s not really like that. It’s more an image in my head than on the inside of my eyelids if that makes sense, like a dream.

Apparently it must literally be an image. Or not.

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Porfirio · 27/02/2024 09:19

I see a red star and can visualise it flat like in the photo or 3d.

PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:20

CrunchyCarrot · 27/02/2024 02:48

I see a distinct red star in my mind's eye, so 6. for me. I don't know how I'd do art from my imagination if I couldn't visualise images.

Artists who are often 1s work differently.
They imagine the image without visualisation.
As I thought it was normal to see nothing, until yesterday, I assumed people designed like me…I’m an architect.
Im a little freaked out tbh.

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OldTinHat · 27/02/2024 09:20
PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:22

Poppins2016 · 27/02/2024 02:21

Number 6, immediately, for me. When things are described I "see"/picture them as though I'm looking at a photo etc.

Wow,’like looking at a photo’ feeling a bit jealous now 😔

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PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:24

JustWhatWeDontNeed · 27/02/2024 03:40

I'm not sure I understand the question. When I imagine a red star. I know what one looks like. I wasn't sure if you meant a burning red gas blob, or what you posted, so imagined both.

But I didn't "see" one. I just know what one looks like, if you see what I mean? I guess I see nothing, but I know what I'm imagining. I've never given it any thought. Now I'm confused Grin

You are a 1 then
You have aphantasia.

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PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:25

DinnaeFashYersel · 27/02/2024 03:41

I imagined a red version of the sun. A real hot, moving glowing, massive star in the black of space.

But did you actually see it.?

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PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:28

Pixiesgirl · 27/02/2024 03:52

I'm a 1. I know what things look like, but I don't have a minds eye, I can conceptualise a red star, but not literally see it in my brain. Its really hard to explain. It's like instead of a "screen" where I can "see" things, it's as if the screen is in another room, but I still know what's on it.

For a brief period after a medical thing I did have a minds eye, so know for me it's a different experience.

To have experience of both must be wired.
Do you feel upset at all that you don’t have the ability to see images now.

Does it bother you

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PlantingTreesAgain · 27/02/2024 09:32

cantlosebabyweight · 27/02/2024 05:17

  1. Art is a mystery for me. Hope I’ll never witness a crime and be asked by the police for a description as I’ll be arrested for participation in crime.

As a 1 I can still remember what people look like though.

I wonder if 1s can’t be hypnotised as we can’t ‘close our eyes and see ourselves relaxing on a beach’ and stuff 🤣

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MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 27/02/2024 09:32

Luckycloverz · 27/02/2024 04:26

I can imagine smells and the texture of items in my head - can others do this?

Yes,tbh I thought it was normal to but reading this thread obviously not.