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Climate Change

Good grief, is Trump going to destroy the climate?

219 replies

Junglebell · 08/11/2024 22:45

Just been scrolling and came across this.

https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1854482837350555810

Is Trump for real? Surely someone needs to tell him that every scientist agrees that manmade CO2 controls the climate/

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https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1854482837350555810

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Littlemissgobby · 09/11/2024 04:12

He has never believed in climate change this isn’t new. I knew that all the good stuff Biden has tried will be stopped as soon as I heard he had won. His followers believed that Biden controlled the weather to cause hurricanes off Florida’s this year . Funny they believe that but not actual science about man made climate change.

XChrome · 09/11/2024 04:22

Littlemissgobby · 09/11/2024 04:12

He has never believed in climate change this isn’t new. I knew that all the good stuff Biden has tried will be stopped as soon as I heard he had won. His followers believed that Biden controlled the weather to cause hurricanes off Florida’s this year . Funny they believe that but not actual science about man made climate change.

Agree. People were warned about this. They chose to stick their heads in the sand and vote for this bullshit anyway, so all the Trumpers in Florida and the Carolinas better buckle themselves in for each hurricane season to get even worse, plus expect the FEMA funding that saves their asses to dry up. Project 2025 outlines how the GOP plans to decimate FEMA.
Imagine being foolish enough to vote for your house to get washed away with nobody there to rescue you. It's madness.

username7891 · 09/11/2024 04:29

Drill, baby, drill.

hattie43 · 09/11/2024 05:22

Find another cause , no one's interested.

BlastedPimples · 09/11/2024 07:09

No one's interested? Is that right?

Many people are interested.

GoldenSunflowers · 09/11/2024 07:11

Turkeys voting for Christmas

FiveTreeHill · 09/11/2024 07:12

Yes. It's not new information

Zampa · 09/11/2024 07:14

More drilling for oil in Alaska. A great wilderness destroyed for greed

SadSadGirl · 09/11/2024 07:16

Junglebell · 08/11/2024 22:45

Just been scrolling and came across this.

https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1854482837350555810

Is Trump for real? Surely someone needs to tell him that every scientist agrees that manmade CO2 controls the climate/

Not every scientist. The ones who disagree are committing career suicide, though, so you only hear "there's a scientific consensus".

Did you expect to keep having children and increasing the global population yet somehow the demand for resources would decrease? It's a bit of a strange decision if you're very worried about climate change.

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 07:45

Scientists broadly agree that climate change is a real thing and that human activity contributes towards it.

But what scientists agree on, and the message the public get is quite different and this is because the middle men are politicians and business men, who have found an opportunity to make money. A lot of money.

We need to transition from fossil fuels to renewables, however there is disagreement on the speed that we have to do this. Not all scientists agree that we have to stop gas entirely and in essence make ourselves poor.

Here in the UK we have Ed Milliband advising Ed Milliband that we need to push harder and faster, and all be cold and poor. Meanwhile Ed will make money, men who are in the renewables business will thank Ed very very much, and the fossil fuel guys will be paid off handsomely. We will be told that we are all better people for it.

Scientists are not in agreement that this is the only way. Especially in the UK where we make so little difference. We aren’t even influencing bigger more polluting countries.

So Trump is deciding to put the economy first. He’s decided that the people want cheaper gas, cheaper energy, better lives, more money in their pockets. The majority of businesses want cheaper energy, less outgoing, more profit. People want to thrive again after a number of very hard years.

The world cannot stop using gas yet. The world needs oil. Here in the UK we’ve chosen not to produce our own energy, as this makes those aforementioned people richer. But we need gas. So we import it. Which is arguably worse as that has also has a massive carbon footprint. But we’re led to believe that’s better (for Ed).

Donald Trump knows America will need gas. And someone has to produce it for them to buy from. He’s decided to produce their own rather than destroy the economy and make people poorer, by importing what they need.
Personally, I think this is a sensible idea that has got him voted in as the 47th president.

Finally, will this impact on the whole world and climate change? Yes. Because people abroad are going to ask why we need to be poorer, and why we need to buy our fuel from America? People will vote for people who want to put the people first. The climate change plan will become less at the forefront of concerns.

I’m traditionally a conservative voter living in Wales. I will be voting for Reform in a couple of years, because I have decided I’m fed up of struggling and I hope that with values more aligned with the Republican Party, they may be that chance of living a few years of my life more comfortably. I’m just not rich enough, or middle class enough to be able to afford climate change.

hattie43 · 09/11/2024 07:46

BlastedPimples · 09/11/2024 07:09

No one's interested? Is that right?

Many people are interested.

And many more aren't .

GoldenSunflowers · 09/11/2024 08:12

I don’t understand how anyone who has children is not worried about climate change.

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 08:28

GoldenSunflowers · 09/11/2024 08:12

I don’t understand how anyone who has children is not worried about climate change.

I’m more worried about them affording homes, warmth, food etc.

BlastedPimples · 09/11/2024 08:33

@hattie43 many more aren't. That's correct.

Which is not the same as nobody's interested. That is to what I responded earlier up thread.

Perhaps my English isn't clear to you.

GoldenSunflowers · 09/11/2024 08:33

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 08:28

I’m more worried about them affording homes, warmth, food etc.

Food also impacted by climate change. Homes not washed away by rains etc.

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 08:38

GoldenSunflowers · 09/11/2024 08:33

Food also impacted by climate change. Homes not washed away by rains etc.

Money is simply a more pressing issue.

There is nothing I can do about China. The difference I make in the UK is less than 1%.

So, I really couldn’t care less.

Forget the climate projects (or at least the speed at which we are trying to achieve nothing) and put that money into the economy instead.

FreshLaundry · 09/11/2024 08:39

@Llhaaf unfortunately not acting costs more. (Valencia was warned about flooding even up until the event, and now they will pay billions to rebuild).

I completely agree with you that government investment needs to be made here and that lower income people need to be adequately supported.

FreshLaundry · 09/11/2024 08:40

The worry is that Trump guts NOAA and the measurement and science simply isn’t done in the first place.

BettyBardMacDonald · 09/11/2024 08:40

Littlemissgobby · 09/11/2024 04:12

He has never believed in climate change this isn’t new. I knew that all the good stuff Biden has tried will be stopped as soon as I heard he had won. His followers believed that Biden controlled the weather to cause hurricanes off Florida’s this year . Funny they believe that but not actual science about man made climate change.

The immense stupidity of Americans is really difficult to fathom.

CrazyCatLady008 · 09/11/2024 08:42

Well next time they cry about a cat 5 hurricane they can thank their president (the Amish for voting for the first time ever) for doing nothing to help the climate can't they?
It's like those who vote reform next and then wonder why the NHS no longer exists. Can't fix stupid.

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 08:43

FreshLaundry · 09/11/2024 08:39

@Llhaaf unfortunately not acting costs more. (Valencia was warned about flooding even up until the event, and now they will pay billions to rebuild).

I completely agree with you that government investment needs to be made here and that lower income people need to be adequately supported.

Valencia has ongoing problems with dams and drainage.

Natural disasters have occurred throughout history and I don’t treat one-off events as evidence of climate change.

People see what they want to see.

Humphreyshead · 09/11/2024 08:44

Zampa · 09/11/2024 07:14

More drilling for oil in Alaska. A great wilderness destroyed for greed

I do wonder why Alaskans voted for him… money and jobs I expect.

Humphreyshead · 09/11/2024 08:47

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 08:43

Valencia has ongoing problems with dams and drainage.

Natural disasters have occurred throughout history and I don’t treat one-off events as evidence of climate change.

People see what they want to see.

They are increasing in frequency though

Llhaaf · 09/11/2024 08:48

Also, I spend months in Florida at a time and I don’t hear a single person blame the weather this year on Biden.

Im sure some crazy people might have, but that was definitely not the general consensus. Many people attributed the stormy weather to it being an El Niño year.

GoldenSunflowers · 09/11/2024 08:48

The one-off events seem to be multiplying. Bet hey, ho, our children can despise us and despair, we won’t be around 😢