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Medical cannabis

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thesootherfairy · 21/08/2022 00:11

Anyone else here tried medical cannabis?

I'm currently trying it. I suffer from chronic pain from ankylosing spondylitis with lots of peripheral symptoms.

I tried 9 different anti inflammatory drugs and lot of others for pain.

The clinic I spoke to were really helpful. I got my prescription about a month ago.

It is helping with the joint pain and tendonitis pain and stiffness. I've stopped using other forms of pain relief and I sleep better so feel less tired.

Anyone else?

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Thesharkradar · 29/03/2023 23:18

Posyapocalypse · 29/03/2023 22:27

Thesharkradar. I'm feeling far better now thanks as I've not had any since about 5pm yesterday. Nearly back to normal. I don't think I dare try any other way of taking it for a while anyhow . And certainly don't think day time use is for me at all

glad to hear you're nearly back to baseline😊
if you do think about trying the vaped/smoke route please be assured that it wont be so long lasting, you can just take a few puffs, you'll feel the effects within minutes and if you dont like it it'll wear off fairly quickly.
I hope you find something which brings you relief🙏

anonymouschef · 30/03/2023 13:49

Dank bakery stuff arrived
I have had half the smallest gummy to see

Also going to keep you all posted on this as it's obv a higher dose then the oil I'm px

@Thesharkradar how many mg are you having roughly im having around 100mg for a big dose if I'm really suffering and it helps a lot with all my problems

Thesharkradar · 30/03/2023 14:19

I will consult my spreadsheet and get back to you ☝🏻😁@anonymouschef
(Pretty sure I take quite a lot less than 100 milligrams though....👀)
Hope all goes well with that gummy 👍

anonymouschef · 30/03/2023 14:23

Thesharkradar · 30/03/2023 14:19

I will consult my spreadsheet and get back to you ☝🏻😁@anonymouschef
(Pretty sure I take quite a lot less than 100 milligrams though....👀)
Hope all goes well with that gummy 👍

Hahah thanks so much

You would laugh your head off if you saw me or knew me

countingallthseconds · 30/03/2023 15:36

Posyapocalypse · 29/03/2023 16:34

I would also feel really shit if I used edible cannabis in the daytime, the methods used by these clinics make no sense to me at all.
I take a very carefully measured and calibrated dose at night that I know won't be still affecting me in the morning, for me it guarantees a good night's sleep and it's a relaxing and enjoyable evening.

I can't say I've ever felt any pain relief from cannabis, but I don't have any chronic pain issues so I can't speak to that.

Well Saphirres prescription certainly didn’t work for me. I can’t get my words out, left my purse on the shop counter yesterday and my friends said I look exhausted and that I’m not talking like myself (I do feel I have to concentrate to have a sensible conversation). No way would I dare drive either. Really disappointed but at least I’ve tried.

This is how THC affects me too, I think some people just don't get on with it.

yogaretreat · 30/03/2023 16:57

I had medical cannabis for months from Integro - I found it useless just made me really nauseous, the taste of cannabis first thing in the morning was foul. I have a high drug tolerance so never felt slurred or anything

Thesharkradar · 30/03/2023 17:48

anonymouschef · 30/03/2023 14:23

Hahah thanks so much

You would laugh your head off if you saw me or knew me

hehe, you might laugh at me! 😁
my nightly dose currently contains 0.210g of cannabis, which is 200mg, assuming the THC concentration is 15-18% that gives a THC dose of 31-38mg.
I have over the course of several months whittled it down from around 400-500mg of cannabis, but even then I think 100mg of THC would be too much for me.
If it works for you though it's all good!

tiger2691 · 30/03/2023 21:04

While the intoxication effects of marijuana can last for up to 6 hours, it stays in your system for much longer (and, neither determining intoxication nor predicting how long it will last in your system is an exact science). First, it is essential to note that it is delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) that most people refer to when evaluating how long cannabis can stay in your system. Other compounds can also be detected, but drug tests look specifically at THC, the compound responsible for the euphoric effects of marijuana.

According to most experts, cannabis can remain in your system for anywhere from 1 to 30 days after last use and can be detectable in hair follicle drug testing for several months. That’s a wide range in the window of detection, and the range is because many things can affect the longevity of marijuana. Here are 6 factors that can influence how long cannabis stays in your system.

1. Amount of THC consumed
The more THC you consume, the longer it will take your body to break down and eventually eliminate it from your system. However, you also need to factor in the relative strength of what you are consuming and the type of marijuana you consume. For example, some forms of marijuana are stronger than others.

2. Genetics
Genetics can also play a role in how long marijuana stays in your system. Variants of some enzymes, for example, can accelerate the elimination of marijuana in some people. The concentration of these enzymes in your system is often an inherited trait.

3. Frequency of Use
The effects of marijuana can be cumulative, so the more you use it, the more it is apt to be detectable in your system. Overall duration and frequency of use can affect how long marijuana remains in your system, and chronic users retain marijuana in their systems for much longer than occasional users. Research suggests that detection windows for someone using marijuana for the first time are about 3 days. For those who consume marijuana daily or more often, the detection window can last as long as 30 days.

4. Body Fat
Body fat can also affect marijuana detection. THC is fat-soluble, which means it can bind to fat molecules and stay in the system longer. This means people with a body composition that features higher concentrations of body fat may metabolize marijuana more slowly. Age and gender may also be factors, although these, too, may be related to either body fat or metabolic rates.

5. Metabolism
Marijuana is eliminated from the body by normal bodily functions. An individual with a high metabolism will tend to eliminate marijuana and its active metabolite, THC, far more quickly than an individual with a slower metabolism. If you have a high metabolism, your detection window is likely to be far shorter.

6. Types of Drug Tests
The length of time that marijuana can be detected in the system is also dependent on the method used to detect it. For example, urine tests can detect marijuana for 3 to 30 days after use, but blood tests can only reliably test for 3 to 4 hours. Saliva tests can typically detect marijuana for only 24 hours after use, although some can detect the presence of marijuana within 72 hours after use. Hair tests are the most sensitive and can detect THC for up to 90 days after use.
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How Long Does An Edible Stay In Your System?
If you’re stressing over how long will an edible stay in your system, the first thing to understand is there really isn’t any exact science on the topic. It depends on the dose and type of edible, plus your own body’s chemistry and metabolism. Some bodies simply process cannabis faster than others.
To give a very general answer to the question of how long does an edible stay in your system, it’s safe to say the effects can last for anywhere from two to 24 hours. And the THC from a cannabis edible can remain in your blood, urine or saliva for 24 hours to three months. We realize those aren’t very satisfying or specific, so let’s dive into a little more detail.

How Long Do Different Types Of Edibles Stay In Your System?
As mentioned above, how long does an edible stay in your system and keep you high greatly depends on the type of edible you consume. Because different categories of edibles are metabolized in different ways by the body, some will cycle through more quickly than others. Before we jump in, it’s important to note that these time estimates can vary greatly person to person and are totally dependent on the dose.

  • Weed brownies, cookies, gummy bears or any other food items are absorbed by the body through the digestive tract, also known as gastrointestinal absorption. These tend to take longer to set in (an hour to an hour and a half) than the other types of edibles on this list. On the other hand, they tend to stay in your system longer with prolonged effects, even up to eight hours in some cases.
  • Marijuana tinctures, hard candies, lozenges or anything you keep in your mouth for a while are absorbed sublingually, also known as oral uptake. These tend to be the most fast-acting form of edibles, hitting your system within 15 to 20 minutes, maybe even less.

Consistent edible eaters can expect traces of edibles to stay in their system for anywhere from one month up to three. And if those are particularly potent edibles, you can expect that to lean towards the three-month end.

thesootherfairy · 31/03/2023 01:06

Everyone reacts differently to drugs. Whether any prescription drug from
The Gp or medical cannabis.

Very true what @tiger2691 says. It's all individual.

I have axial spondyloarthritis. The most common 3rd line drug prescribed for relief is etoricoxib. Absolutely awful for me. Tunnel vision, headaches so bad I had to go to A&E and not much relief.
I have a colleague also with AxSPA and for him etoricoxib is like a miracle. No side effects just long lasting relief.

It took me 2 years to even decide to try medical cannabis. I'd tried more than 15 different drugs to try and get some relief from AxSPA symptoms and pain without much if any success. I didn't really see that medical cannabis would or even could work. Plus it is all still newly legal and I was worried about ramifications with work etc and knowing the clinic writes to your GP and worrying about whether this would impact on my care etc.

It was more than a year after my very first appointment than I actually decided to have another appointment and give it a go.

I get good long lasting relief from a very small dose. I can only use it in the evenings due to my work and needing to drive.
But at least I have part of my day where th pain is nearly gone and I feel good. That's been a real lifeline for me. To be able to have a break from pain.

I think it is easy to end up with too high a dose on medical cannabis or that it can make some people feel high or sort of wonky. It was a little tricky to find the right dose. No one can tell you what that might be. This means a little experimenting.

I just think it's good that it's available so those of us in need have another avenue to try.

It's by no means a cure or a miracle but it gives me a solid 8 to 12 hours of pain relief. To me that's given me my life back.

I know it's disappointing and hard to try yet another type of medication without success. I've been there. 17 different types of medicine on prescription over 5 years before medical cannabis which I only tried out of desperation.

OP posts:
Lionoso · 02/04/2023 15:48

A week and a half or so on, I'm still doing fine on the MC.

I have had some heartburn from the CBD oil and a one or two headaches, but they have settled now. Not sure if they were connected or not as I get a lot of headaches.

I am still sleeping much better thanks to the THC oil at bedtime. I feel a bit sluggish during the day and low energy but still better than I ever did on amitriptyline or opioids.

Pain wise I think it is helping a bit, sort of a dimming of my constant daily pain. Plus my anxiety is still better.

I think I will continue with it for now as I feel better on it than off it. I will have my review with the Dr in a couple of weeks, I do wonder if they might up the dose a bit. At no point have I felt high or anything close to it, I get that more with tramadol. All I have felt is a bit chilled and relaxed. I can physically feel my muscles relax before I drop off to sleep at night.

acuteanxiety · 02/08/2023 15:41

Hi All,

Am Px cannabis oil and flowers for chronic pain and anxiety
I go away next week to Netherlands and wondered if I can go into a cafe or not really? the info is so mixed out there.

Btw, Flew to italy and back last week, didnt even have my oil checked!

Enderunicorn · 26/09/2023 20:56

Vecnasnurse · 21/08/2022 10:34

I buy edibles from Dank bakery. Remember the postie that ate too many brownies? 😁 Its the same company.

Their products are really high quality so definitely recommend them for anyone jumping through the hoops of trying to get a prescription. The only downside is they don't state the strength of the products (legal reasons maybe?) so it takes a while to figure out your dose.

@Vecnasnurse can I ask how you get membership? I've been following them for a while but haven't been able to figure it out from their page.

ontheup23 · 26/09/2023 21:15

@Enderunicorn

I messaged them on instagram for some help I was very confused too

I got the cash app to pay them

It's legit I've used them many many times

Enderunicorn · 26/09/2023 21:16

ontheup23 · 26/09/2023 21:15

@Enderunicorn

I messaged them on instagram for some help I was very confused too

I got the cash app to pay them

It's legit I've used them many many times

Ah thank you. I did message a while back asking for a link to the members platform but they never replied.

ontheup23 · 27/09/2023 18:05

@Enderunicorn

Are you using the website with .co

Only at the end not the top result as search on Google

Enderunicorn · 27/09/2023 20:15

ontheup23 · 27/09/2023 18:05

@Enderunicorn

Are you using the website with .co

Only at the end not the top result as search on Google

Just had a look at website again and it's now changed to referral only Confused

LampsAndWatches · 27/09/2023 22:21

I’ve previously ordered so I have emailed them from my inbox asking if they have changed the website/access
I’ll let you know if they reply

Enderunicorn · 28/09/2023 11:52

LampsAndWatches · 27/09/2023 22:21

I’ve previously ordered so I have emailed them from my inbox asking if they have changed the website/access
I’ll let you know if they reply

Thanks @LampsAndWatches it looks like I might have missed my chance if it's now referral only!

LampsAndWatches · 29/09/2023 22:05

Enderunicorn · 28/09/2023 11:52

Thanks @LampsAndWatches it looks like I might have missed my chance if it's now referral only!

No reply after 2 days so I’m not holding my breath

Enderunicorn · 30/09/2023 16:38

No @LampsAndWatches that doesn't sound very hopeful...

mowly77 · 01/10/2023 06:44

@Enderunicorn if you don’t want to/can’t afford to go down legal route with a clinic try MyEdibles. I haven’t used them since July (I was travelling & took edibles instead of my prescription as the latter is too expensive to risk it being taken off me without right paperwork etc!). But they’ve been solidly good. I’ve only ordered gummies but they have a range. You order & they send a link to pay afterwards.

User99876 · 28/10/2024 22:02

Is anyone on this thread still around?

I have a chronic pain condition and have run out of conventional treatment options. I have a friend who grew her own so I used to vape it in very small amounts which worked wonders, but unfortunately she doesn't grow it anymore. I didn't realise medical cannabis was legal in the UK until a few weeks ago, so I've started the application process.

However.. I'm really worried about how the NHS will respond and how it might affect my care going forward, especially as I also have a MH condition. The stigma is very strong and I feel like I'm doing something terrible by applying for it. I can't decide whether to be open with my doctor about it or to leave it and only discuss it if they ask.

I've just had to come off an absolutely vile drug because of the side effects and risk of harm if taken long term. The drug came with warnings that it may lead to mood and behavioural changes, as well as suicidal thoughts. I don't understand how that's ok but medical cannabis is so frowned upon.

It sounds ridiculous but the thought of having to deal with my GP's response is really stressing me out.

Has anybody found it's led to difficulties or barriers in terms of accessing NHS treatment?

CherryRipe1 · 29/10/2024 14:19

@User99876 I've just gone onto medical marijuana since 15/10. I sent my summary of care and gave GP details. It was a very quick decision after the clinic consultation & within a couple of days I had two lots of medical bud! I did wonder if these clinics actually contact your GP & let them know or just go by medical history, conditions & drugs tried like a box ticking exercise to cover themselves. I'm also in two minds, do I keep schtum or tell my GP/rheumatologist or does the surgery already know? I've got a follow up in November & will ask if they inform the GP or contact them directly. Yes there's around 50 medical cannabis clinics now and it's a weird situation in that strong pharmaceuticals are prescribed by the NHS, but off label but legal alternatives are viewed suspiciously by some medics. According to some forums most don't give a sh*t & there's bigger black market drug issues afoot than a bit of medically prescribed 'God's weed'! Many drugs are synthesized from plants! It's recognized for epilepsy and MS but slim chances of getting it prescribed by the NHS. Also thinking about any contraindications if I'm ever prescribed something by the NHS GP but I guess the mm clinic GP would know. I'm fortunate not to have any mh conditions apart from I had anxiety some years back that responded to cbt. Yes re drugs. I was prescribed amitriptyline and pregabalin. The former I was scared to take and the latter I titrated myself off as worried about long term use/addiction plus the side effects. I use mm conservatively, just enough to dull the pain on bad days.

User99876 · 29/10/2024 14:43

@CherryRipe1 Thank you for sharing your experience, glad it was easy for you. Is it helping? The clinic is supposed to write to or email your GP to inform them but I've been told by an allied HCP that nobody really reads the letters because they're too busy. Which clinic are you with if you don't mind me asking?

I sent off my medical stuff yesterday and filled in a couple of forms, so I'm just waiting for them to offer me a consultation. I got a text from my GP surgery earlier and jumped as I thought they'd rumbled me! Fortunately it was just an appointment reminder Grin

CherryRipe1 · 29/10/2024 18:30

@User99876 Yes it's helping with the pain thanks. Ah interesting, oh well, if they're informed will just see if it's ever mentioned. I'm with Integro as they do a reduced rate for pip and other benefits on a few bud strains & seemed to have a good rep compared to other more popular clinics. They all get a degree of bad feedback tbh but just have to weigh it up. Much hilarity from family with me scales and 'head works' lol! Shouldn't be too long now for you & hopefully it will help you like the home grown.