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Don't want my brother's dog at Christmas

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Keepoffmyartichokes · 05/11/2025 08:24

Every year we host Christmas for both families, it's always a lovely day but a bit chaotic. This year my brother who has to travel about 40 minutes but due to sharing custody of his children only stays about 3 hours wants to bring his cockapoo. We don't want the dog in our house, we don't have pets, we have nice flooring we don't want scratching, nice furniture that we don't want to dog jumping on. It's a spoiled dog and not very well trained. My DS who is 13 said he doesn't want it there as it's jumpy and he's not keen. My MIL has had a knee replacement this year and is a bit unsteady still and I think it will cause stress for her as a trip hazard. But how do I tell my brother kindly without coming across as a dog hater.

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Howmanycatsistoomany · 05/11/2025 21:35

KittyMacNitty · 05/11/2025 14:04

Saying you love dogs but don't want one in your house is weird, and sounds like you don't love dogs in the slightest.

Nonsense. I'm a dog person, have had several, would love to have another but currently have too many cats. I won't allow dogs in my house because it'll piss the cats off and I'll have cats stress peeing all over the furniture.

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 21:41

Yeswoman · 05/11/2025 21:29

For some people, who are scared (like OPs son) dogs are anti social. It's like saying we will have to find a venue that will allow smoking because uncle Gary smokes.

Op's son isn't scared, he's "not keen". Let's banish all things teenagers are "not keen" on, as pandering to a teenager's preferences (even if that means excluding someone) is definitely the way to go!

TBH, I'd be so disappointed in a child of mine if they wouldnt actively want to help find a working solution to make sure their Uncle wasn't alone at Christmas (with no distress caused to animals).

andthat · 05/11/2025 21:44

Knittedanimal · 05/11/2025 12:03

I don't know any dogs who have damaged houses they've visited with their families.
Put some throws on the sofas, cook some extra carrots and wrap a toy up for under the tree. Plan an after dinner walk.The dog will make the day more joyful and bring everyone together.

But she doesn’t want the dog there. So doesn’t need to go to all of these lengths to accommodate it.

Her home, her choice.

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 21:45

Howmanycatsistoomany · 05/11/2025 21:35

Nonsense. I'm a dog person, have had several, would love to have another but currently have too many cats. I won't allow dogs in my house because it'll piss the cats off and I'll have cats stress peeing all over the furniture.

This is completely reasonable, unless you insist that everyone must come to your house, knowing that would exclude someone who would end up spending Christmas alone.

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 21:51

andthat · 05/11/2025 21:44

But she doesn’t want the dog there. So doesn’t need to go to all of these lengths to accommodate it.

Her home, her choice.

Fine. But its not OK to host a full family Christmas excluding just one family member, leaving them alone.

A compromise needs to be found whereby OP doesn't have to host the dog, but OPs brother is still included in (and able to attend - with dog if necessary) the family Christmas celebration.

LaserPumpkin · 05/11/2025 22:02

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 21:51

Fine. But its not OK to host a full family Christmas excluding just one family member, leaving them alone.

A compromise needs to be found whereby OP doesn't have to host the dog, but OPs brother is still included in (and able to attend - with dog if necessary) the family Christmas celebration.

This is the brother’s issue to solve, not OP’s, as he’s the one creating the problem if he won’t leave the animal he chose to get.

I’m sure if he suggested an option that suited everyone at no additional hassle and cost, and protected OP’s MIL and son from having to interact with a jumpy dog, it would be seriously considered.

You know when getting a dog that it may restrict what you’re able to do. Or you should realise.

But until or unless OP updates, we don’t know whether the dog might be ok to be left anyway. So it might be fine - brother can come, dog can stay, everyone happy.

Kirbert2 · 05/11/2025 22:11

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 21:51

Fine. But its not OK to host a full family Christmas excluding just one family member, leaving them alone.

A compromise needs to be found whereby OP doesn't have to host the dog, but OPs brother is still included in (and able to attend - with dog if necessary) the family Christmas celebration.

Maybe the brother can come up with that possible solution.

My son wouldn't go anywhere near a jumpy dog so in our case, it would be if the dog is there then we wouldn't be there.

Summertimesadnessishere · 06/11/2025 05:42

As a dog owner I don’t think it’s an issue if the dog stays at home as your brother is a 40 minute drive. Most dogs ( spaniels are the worst for separation but I can still leave mine) can survive ok for 3-5 hours with a good walk beforehand.

I don’t know how old the dog is but usually my dog would just sleep. I also work from home. Cockerpoos ARE very bouncy and it’s fine to say no. Your brother could also ask a friend if they’d have him or a neighbour to pop in and let him out for a wee. It’s a one off aswell.

Obviously your brother may say no and then you will need to decide if you will move to neutral ground to all be together or, have Christmas separately. What does your brother usually do when he comes to visit?

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 06/11/2025 06:45

Do people have their brains kicked out when they get a dog?
The brother needs to grow up. It’s his problem. He knew when he git the dog that social visits will be affected.

sueelleker · 06/11/2025 07:38

Noshowlomo · 05/11/2025 16:39

@dontmalbeconme she is hosting at home. Likely won’t be charging people the £80 per head or whatever it is to go out to eat.
“hi all, we can’t host because of the dog, but found so and so pub and it’s £80 each, is that ok with everyone?”
You’re then asking people to pay £100s to eat out because of a dog.
Again, most answers will be no, especially if someone is frail and recovering from an op if I read correctly.
The problem isn’t the venue, the issue is with a dog.
Yes it’s nice to make an effort so others are not left out, but equally if you don’t want to be left out you also make an effort. The world doesn’t revolve around one man and his dog. This is a family event, so what works best for everyone.

I agree. And I can't imagine many venues allowing a dog on the premises on Christmas Day; so they'd be no better off.

Emmz1510 · 06/11/2025 08:14

This is why I couldn’t have a dog. They tether you so much! I know there are huge rewards for folk in having dogs and I get it, but this baffles me. It’s perfectly fine to say no and you don’t even really need a reason but a son who’s nervous of dogs and a relative who’s unsteady on their feet is enough reason. Equally he can say no to coming and in fact that might be the responsible thing to do if it means leaving the dog that long. I’m guessing some cope better than others with being left.

JellyBabiesmunch · 06/11/2025 08:21

Keepoffmyartichokes · 05/11/2025 08:24

Every year we host Christmas for both families, it's always a lovely day but a bit chaotic. This year my brother who has to travel about 40 minutes but due to sharing custody of his children only stays about 3 hours wants to bring his cockapoo. We don't want the dog in our house, we don't have pets, we have nice flooring we don't want scratching, nice furniture that we don't want to dog jumping on. It's a spoiled dog and not very well trained. My DS who is 13 said he doesn't want it there as it's jumpy and he's not keen. My MIL has had a knee replacement this year and is a bit unsteady still and I think it will cause stress for her as a trip hazard. But how do I tell my brother kindly without coming across as a dog hater.

He could leave the dog in the car as long as it has a good walk beforehand.

pestowithwalnuts · 06/11/2025 09:10

Ellie1015 · 05/11/2025 09:04

It is awkward, but you are not being unreasonable. I would feel the same. For me, I would say something like

"I've been thinking about Christmas day, and thought I better mention we can't have dog at ours so you have time to plan around, hope you can still make it. If not we could pop over to yours over the festive period"

Think offering to visit him shows you are happy to see the dog just not at your house. Also gives the option of come without dog, or catch up another time hopefully closing down any chat on how to bring the dog.

Excellent reply.

pestowithwalnuts · 06/11/2025 09:15

Talkingtomyhouseplants · 05/11/2025 09:14

People and their dogs have got beyond ridiculous. The dog can go into boarding/kennel over Christmas if he wants to participate fully, or it can be left at home. Thankfully dogs have no concept of Christmas so they don’t know they are being “left out”.

I would suggest the car thing someone else did but in my experience it’s inviting people to push your boundaries - “oh but would it he okay to bring him in for 5 minutes so he can warm up?” Or whatever.

God I hate dogs

I don't hate dogs but I wouldn't want one in my home
I can't understand this idea that dogs should be welcomed at other peoples houses.
They aren't everyone's bees knees

JRM17 · 06/11/2025 09:57

Just say no. If he walks it before and after then it's really only being left for about 4.5 hours this is nothing in the grand scheme of things if u think about and normal night going to bed at 10pm and getting up at 7am the dogs been left for 9hrs.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/11/2025 10:01

sueelleker · 06/11/2025 07:38

I agree. And I can't imagine many venues allowing a dog on the premises on Christmas Day; so they'd be no better off.

Well you’d hope not but nowadays dogs are flipping everywhere!!!

Cherrytree86 · 06/11/2025 11:07

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 21:51

Fine. But its not OK to host a full family Christmas excluding just one family member, leaving them alone.

A compromise needs to be found whereby OP doesn't have to host the dog, but OPs brother is still included in (and able to attend - with dog if necessary) the family Christmas celebration.

@dontmalbeconme

you do realise most restaurants wouldn’t allow a dog in the eating area of a restaurant on Christmas Day?
also it’s very expensive to eat out on Christmas Day. Not sure everyone should suck up the big cost of what’s gonna be likely fairly average mass produced meal just because of a dog that they didn’t choose to have

IsSheOkayOrWhat · 06/11/2025 12:49

I’m a dog owner! Two dogs infact! They are part of my family. We hold things at our house and our dogs are here like it or not. But going to someone’s house I would never assume I can take them. A good long walk and then being left for a few hours is fine for the dog. Your brother should respect that.

Caleb64 · 06/11/2025 13:01

I’m I think it’s weird that people think they can bring their dog unless you’ve specifically said to bring it. Just tell him you would prefer he didn’t bring it. He can walk it, stay 2.5 hours and then walk it when he gets back. He’ll only be out of the house less than 4 hours which is fine for most dogs isn’t it?

Fcs1985 · 06/11/2025 14:06

It's definitely not dog hating, your taking pride in your home and there's risk factors that need to be considered. We used to go to my partners grandparents every Xmas or boxing day. We walked n fed dog as usual then he was fine at home a few hours. They chose to get a dog so don't feel bad. All you can do is be honest with him x

caringcarer · 06/11/2025 14:27

FlexiSadie · 05/11/2025 08:26

If he's only 40 minutes away he can walk the dog and leave it at home for a few hours.

This. Surely the dog can be alone for 3 hours. Just tell him to leave it home.

MzHz · 06/11/2025 14:33

Your brother has ample time between now and Christmas to make sure his dog can be left for longer. His failure as a dog owner is not your responsibility

The sooner you tell him no, the better.

MzHz · 06/11/2025 14:33

And I speak as a dog owner

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/11/2025 14:35

dontmalbeconme · 05/11/2025 15:02

But why would you insist on having Christmas somewhere that you know your sibling (who will otherwise be alone) can't come?

Its a pretty shitty thing to do.

A venue accommodating everyone needs to be found. Why does Christmas have to happen at OPs house?

Surely its more important that everyone can attend than it happens at OPs house.

Why not move it to OPs Mums dog friendly house? OP can still do all the cooking etc if she wishes or DPs are unable? Or just a meal out at a dog friendly and child friendly pub.

The important thing is that the whole family can attend, no?

No, the important thing is that not everyone wants the dog there.

Mischance · 06/11/2025 15:39

Of course HE can come *dontmalbeconme ... he just can't bring his dog. *

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