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'Simple' Father Christmas grottos - where have they gone?

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PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:11

I have an autistic child who literally cannot cope with sustained excitement. He needs short, lovely experiences which he will then reflect on for months. His absolute ideal would be the sort of grotto experience I remember from my own childhood: briefly queue up in a department store, five minutes with FC to tell him if we've been good and what we would like for Christmas, and then off to do something else. £10 absolute max.

I don't know if it's my region but almost everything around here seems to be hours-long 'experiences' costing a minimum of £40 per child - making reindeer food / decorating cookies with Mrs Claus / meeting the reindeer / watching a show, and only then getting to see the big man, by which time my DC would be in a full overstimulated meltdown. Even the usually reliable places like John Lewis have realised that they have higher margins if they pack children in for breakfast or tea with Santa and they've all been booked solid since November.

The local shopping centre is pretty much the only place with simple grotto and they are solidly booked until Christmas. Meanwhile every children's farm we've ever visited has sent me an email with a discount offer for their 'experience' as they are clearly struggling to sell tickets. I am hopeful that the tide is turning and there might be a return to traditional, short grottos.

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BoobsOnTheMoon · 06/12/2024 18:14

Have you got a local parent carer group? I'm in two of them on FB (I live on the border of two counties) and both have organised a Christmas party for the families they support with a Santa in attendance. So I'd suggest looking for something like that! Nobody would bat an eyelidi you just went for long enough to see Santa then left again.

fashionqueen0123 · 06/12/2024 18:16

We have some local charities offering that type of experience, plus lots of garden centres. Try Dobbies etc

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:18

Dobbies and other garden centres all sold out unless we are willing to go at the crack of dawn!

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FancyAReallyLongUsernameJustForAChange · 06/12/2024 18:20

Can you say roughly where you're based? People might have recommendations.

Allnewtometoo · 06/12/2024 18:22

Our Dobbie's is closing sadly. The other local option is £40 per child, and £15 per adult. Plus booking fee. You do get to decorate a gingerbread man though 🤯

Flubadubba · 06/12/2024 18:22

Definitely check garden centres- they do a roaring trade in this where we are (but there are a LOT of garden centres in W Sussex!)

Also try libraries and church fairs. Does his school (or any local school) do an Xmas fair with Santa's grotto?

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:22

NW England. I've asked on a regional FB group but it's slim pickings, which is sort of my wider point. For whatever reason I don't think as many people want extended 'experiences' any more. The simpler grottos are all booked up.

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Spagettifunctional · 06/12/2024 18:22

Our local church hall does a simple one
keeo an eye on local Facebook pages

FluffMagnet · 06/12/2024 18:23

Yes these things are insane now. Our local rare breeds centre has a lovely experience. You buy you ticket and it includes entrance to the farm, soft play, adventure playground etc for the whole day (if you want it!) and then at your allotted time you turn up to the barn, hand the elves a slip with your child's name on and get called through to see a Santa (small maze of straw bales in another barn adjoining, not sure how many are in there but suspect 3!) lovely 5 mins with Father Christmas, nice soft toy, and out again without seeing any other families. Obviously it is a little more, maybe £15 or so but that does include entry to the farm. Really lovely, magical and as quick and simple as you want to make it. I wish more were like it.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:24

Should also say that many of these places claim to do 'relaxed' sessions suitable for children with SEND but I am at work and my DC is at school at 11am on a Thursday when they all seem to take place, so they are tokenistic at best (and still £40+!!).

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TickingAlongNicely · 06/12/2024 18:25

School fairs can be a good bet.
Unfortunately they can also be a sensory nightmare (too many people in to small a space).

Do you have a local shopping outlet? Ours has a queue up grotto.

KnickerlessFlannel · 06/12/2024 18:25

How about a local school Christmas fayre?

Needmorelego · 06/12/2024 18:28

Local primary school fairs. Father Christmas is usually a teacher or parent and while the fairs themselves can be a bit chaotic if you're going just for the grotto you might be able to just go in and out.
Schools will probably be aware and understanding of extra needs too.

FancyAReallyLongUsernameJustForAChange · 06/12/2024 18:28

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:22

NW England. I've asked on a regional FB group but it's slim pickings, which is sort of my wider point. For whatever reason I don't think as many people want extended 'experiences' any more. The simpler grottos are all booked up.

Would this be any good to you?

https://www.visitcalderdale.com/event/santas-grotto-at-westgate-arcade/

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:34

His own school Christmas fair was today and had a grotto but wasn’t an option as he finds a familiar place looking ‘wrong’ very distressing.

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ohtowinthelottery · 06/12/2024 18:34

Our local Rotary clubs have Santa on a float in the town centre on a Saturday, plus they tour some of the housing estates at night in December. The children all go out in their pyjamas and see him. They tell him what they want for Christmas, parents get time for a quick photo, job done. And all free (donations welcome as it pays for Christmas dinners for old folk).
It suited my DS when he was little (has ASD diagnosis). He's late 20's now and it's lovely that the Rotary are still doing it.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:35

FancyAReallyLongUsernameJustForAChange · 06/12/2024 18:28

It’s a bit of a drive but the sort of thing I am after so I will investigate - thank you.

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InnerPlop · 06/12/2024 18:36

Do you have a local Lions Club? Our local one organise for Santa to drive round the town in his sleigh, he gives a wave, the elves collect donations and give out chocs. Then Santa stops at the end of the road for a quick 5 minute chat with the kids and then he's off down the next road.
Santa also does a few days in our local supermarket carpark. Again, you can just give a donation and Santa will have a quick chat with the kids and give out a choc.

mitogoshigg · 06/12/2024 18:39

Look at church bizarres, town fairs etc. it's free on our town at the Christmas market on Sunday (too far for you)

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:40

InnerPlop · 06/12/2024 18:36

Do you have a local Lions Club? Our local one organise for Santa to drive round the town in his sleigh, he gives a wave, the elves collect donations and give out chocs. Then Santa stops at the end of the road for a quick 5 minute chat with the kids and then he's off down the next road.
Santa also does a few days in our local supermarket carpark. Again, you can just give a donation and Santa will have a quick chat with the kids and give out a choc.

It’s Rotary around here but he doesn’t make it to our village. It’s a lovely thing though and raises lots of money for charity.

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SweetPeaPods · 06/12/2024 18:41

Honestly I think the whole thing has gone crazy. They think by going over the top they can charge stupid money. Our local garden centre wants £30 a child! It used to be £6!!

FusionChefGeoff · 06/12/2024 18:50

I was going to say Rotary too - can you drive into the nearest big town and wait on the route???

NorthernWay · 06/12/2024 18:55

There was one at a high school fair tonight, it was busy there though. Not sure whereabouts in NW you are but think astley hall and fishergate shopping centre still have availability.

MattSmithsBowTie · 06/12/2024 19:05

Funnily enough I was just thinking about this today, when I was little is was a couple of quid in a garden centre, you queued up, sat on Santa’s knees and got a present which was always a colouring book. The one I just took my kids to was £70, I had to book it in March to get a place and it took over an hour to do the ‘experience’ with proper actors. It was great but I’m not sure my kids really appreciated enough for £70 when they would’ve been just as happy with a 5 minute Santa and a colouring book, but that just doesn’t exist anymore.

OhMaria2 · 06/12/2024 19:06

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:11

I have an autistic child who literally cannot cope with sustained excitement. He needs short, lovely experiences which he will then reflect on for months. His absolute ideal would be the sort of grotto experience I remember from my own childhood: briefly queue up in a department store, five minutes with FC to tell him if we've been good and what we would like for Christmas, and then off to do something else. £10 absolute max.

I don't know if it's my region but almost everything around here seems to be hours-long 'experiences' costing a minimum of £40 per child - making reindeer food / decorating cookies with Mrs Claus / meeting the reindeer / watching a show, and only then getting to see the big man, by which time my DC would be in a full overstimulated meltdown. Even the usually reliable places like John Lewis have realised that they have higher margins if they pack children in for breakfast or tea with Santa and they've all been booked solid since November.

The local shopping centre is pretty much the only place with simple grotto and they are solidly booked until Christmas. Meanwhile every children's farm we've ever visited has sent me an email with a discount offer for their 'experience' as they are clearly struggling to sell tickets. I am hopeful that the tide is turning and there might be a return to traditional, short grottos.

I just did the whole beautiful and expensive curated package at my local garden centre with my DS at the weekend. DISASTER! Never again! He was over stimulated and had an hour long meltdown, I felt so guilty.
Have a look on your local community page on FB, churches often do low key grottoes

Your local Autism charity might also do a grotto

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