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'Simple' Father Christmas grottos - where have they gone?

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PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:11

I have an autistic child who literally cannot cope with sustained excitement. He needs short, lovely experiences which he will then reflect on for months. His absolute ideal would be the sort of grotto experience I remember from my own childhood: briefly queue up in a department store, five minutes with FC to tell him if we've been good and what we would like for Christmas, and then off to do something else. £10 absolute max.

I don't know if it's my region but almost everything around here seems to be hours-long 'experiences' costing a minimum of £40 per child - making reindeer food / decorating cookies with Mrs Claus / meeting the reindeer / watching a show, and only then getting to see the big man, by which time my DC would be in a full overstimulated meltdown. Even the usually reliable places like John Lewis have realised that they have higher margins if they pack children in for breakfast or tea with Santa and they've all been booked solid since November.

The local shopping centre is pretty much the only place with simple grotto and they are solidly booked until Christmas. Meanwhile every children's farm we've ever visited has sent me an email with a discount offer for their 'experience' as they are clearly struggling to sell tickets. I am hopeful that the tide is turning and there might be a return to traditional, short grottos.

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QueSyrahSyrah · 07/12/2024 09:58

Glad you've found somewhere OP. I was thinking exactly the same, when I was a kid we just went to the local garden centre, paid about £3, queued up through the Christmas section and got 2 minutes with Santa and a selection box or similar.

I've started to pay attention to what's in our area now I have a baby DS and it's all 'experiences' and/or you had to be in the online queue on the day it went on sale like flaming Glastonbury tickets. Even the bloody department store is very limited sessions and sold out weeks ago.

There's one at the venue we got Married at so given that it's much more for us than him at this age we've stumped up the £15 for the sentimentality (and the venue is a charitable concern so at least they'll benefit).

reluctantbrit · 07/12/2024 10:00

Have you looked at National Trust places. We had the most amazing one for the last year we did it and while DD already had doubts, she really loved it.

Very simple, no fees for photos, you could or could not do a craft activity and a simple gift.

Edited as I see that you found something, but maybe for next year.

purpleme12 · 07/12/2024 10:04

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 07/12/2024 09:39

I know you mean this helpfully but that is absolutely ridiculous and exactly what I am talking about. It should not be necessary to book in September to take a child for a ten-minute visit to a grotto.

As a wider point, if the simpler grottos are all fully booked before Hallowe’en while the big ‘experiences’ are struggling to fill places then that is a very clear sign from the market that organisers are offering the wrong thing.

I find loads of 'simple' Santa's grottos

It's all we've been to this year

We went to a small charity fair where there was one. £1 and got a toy and chocolate selection box.

Went to an animal charity fair where there was Santa. W didn't go to that one but that was £10 you got a toy and A professional photograph.

There was a church fair that had a Santa too (we didn't go to that Santa).

There was another little fair that had a Santa. That was free and you got a snack bag.

There's one in our shopping centre which is free but you can give donations to the hospice. You get a squishy ball or a little chocolate treat.

And there's the garden centres too
Which aren't all booked up no

I know there's a simple one in the library too

And the 'real' (really realistic) Santa comes to visit the other shopping centre on one day the last couple of years. No present you just get to meet him.

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 07/12/2024 10:25

purpleme12 · 07/12/2024 10:04

I find loads of 'simple' Santa's grottos

It's all we've been to this year

We went to a small charity fair where there was one. £1 and got a toy and chocolate selection box.

Went to an animal charity fair where there was Santa. W didn't go to that one but that was £10 you got a toy and A professional photograph.

There was a church fair that had a Santa too (we didn't go to that Santa).

There was another little fair that had a Santa. That was free and you got a snack bag.

There's one in our shopping centre which is free but you can give donations to the hospice. You get a squishy ball or a little chocolate treat.

And there's the garden centres too
Which aren't all booked up no

I know there's a simple one in the library too

And the 'real' (really realistic) Santa comes to visit the other shopping centre on one day the last couple of years. No present you just get to meet him.

Edited

This all sounds great. Perhaps it varies by region.

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purser25 · 07/12/2024 11:33

A church Bazaar would be good if they have Father Christmas though I would think they are all finished now. But for future years an idea

PullTheBricksDown · 07/12/2024 11:37

PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat · 06/12/2024 18:18

Dobbies and other garden centres all sold out unless we are willing to go at the crack of dawn!

I know you've said you've found something now but I would recommend the Dobbies grotto even if the time isn't ideal. It is nice and not too long.

GettingStuffed · 07/12/2024 17:13

Ophy83 · 06/12/2024 20:34

We went to Smithills farm in Bolton last year. Santa was excellent. You also get to meet the baby animals in the barn. And their dairy shop is great, the ice cream in particular is wonderful (ferrero rocher ice cream!). The Santa visit cost about £7.50 I think.

Edited to add: the farm visit/baby animals isn't part of the santa experience. We had a time slot to see Santa but we were early so we wandered round the farm first then visited Santa in our time slot.

Edited

Totally agree about the ice cream

BakedAlaska12 · 07/12/2024 18:10

Hi, I know you have said you found something but you mentioned you were in the northwest… (I know it’s a big area!!) the dobbies near me has a miniature railway with a Christmas train which you just turn up and pay for on the day, I believe FC comes and sees the children briefly on the train - I’m talking garden centre train not a great big railway so would be good for what you are after. Dragons miniature railway - search on Facebook for more info.

GiraffesAtThePark · 07/12/2024 19:10

Glad you found something. I guess it varies in regions as there are loads where I am. Even when not looking for them we’ve come across them at various places.

AutumnLeeeeves · 07/12/2024 19:21

Barton Grange near Garstang was disappointingly simple this year for us, but sounds like exactly what you want. They're also doing an SEND day on Thursday. It's £26 but the presents are decent and Santa was very lovely.

notanothernamechangemother · 07/12/2024 19:27

I have took my dd to a lovely relaxed Santa's grotto in West Sussex today. She is very shy, barely spoke to Santa 😔 but he was very kind to her. I didn't pay a penny either, so these grottos do still exist.

Twilightstarbright · 07/12/2024 19:36

London zoo one isn’t a long experience but obviously it’s an add on to your zoo ticket. They are amazing with SEN kids too and turned off the Christmas music, flashing lights for us.

The local private school uses the fancy garden centre FC, I went when DC were in nursery with a friend who’s kids went there and it was amazing for £5 and the photo of toddler DS on FCs lap is fab! Might be worth looking at similar?

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