Presents for 10 and 12 year old boys

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Hoping to share ideas please! I'm at a bit of a loss over presents this year, especially for the 10 year old who recently had a birthday too.

The 10 year old loves football (but has goals and all the usual football 'stuff'), space and online gaming. When asked what he wants he says 'surprises' which makes me feel more pressured! Last year we got a home football table so that's going to be very hard to top!

The 12 year old is a self confessed geek, loves gadgets, computers, Percy Jacson books, Dungeons & Dragons, etc. He's just started Secondary school but acts older. He says he wants a 3D printer but has no ideas other than that!

If anyone can make any suggestions, I would be very grateful as in addition to sorting out the whole of Christmas I've also got to support an elderly relative through a difficult time over the next few weeks.

Does the eldest have a Raspberry Pi? DS1 (12) loves his and you can buy a million add ons for it.

For the football mad child is there any skills training stuff? For example for cricket we have a bounce-back net which you throw a ball at and it comes off askew to give you fielding practice.

Mine is 10 (11 soon) so I'm in this zone.
I've got him a mini waffle maker with luxury waffle mix from Lakeland out of desperation 😂 I'll get him some nerf gubbins (got a target so far) and a projex projecting game which looks really stupid so I think he'll like that. Yours might be into clothes/labels though mine isn't. Otherwise it's books, food he doesn't normally get like Pringles and Gravity Falls merch

If you are near London, I keep getting adverts for a new Percy Jackson musical. Am going to get tickets for DS2

Any shows he is interested in? Mine likes Stranger Things so just brought tickets for the show in the West End that has just came out. Boys this age are hard. If he plays Fortnite what about VBucks giftcards. Headphones for gaming or music. Scooter. Basketball hoop. Dart board.

Warhammer? Especially for the eldest?!

For your 10yo:
Football Billionaire board game
Air hockey table
Match magazine subscription

12yo:
GoCube Edge
T shirt from Illuminated Apparel
Perplexus
Toastie/waffle maker

For DS10 a rebounding training net and a kickerball (the stay active one is the best one).

(And following for all the other ideas!)

Telescope for the DS who likes space? Museum shop websites are good for stocking filler inspiration (and books actually). We like another table top game in this house called Klask, might be a nice joint present