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Christmas Eve Birthday

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Sugarfree23 · 30/09/2023 08:05

How do you give a child a bundle of birthday presents and then build them up for Christmas day excitement?

Until now we've held birthday a few days earlier but feel he's getting bigger and birthday should be his actual birthday.

Or do we continue to do it earlier until he's well beyond Santa ?

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CowboyJoanna · 10/10/2023 20:28

SBHon · 10/10/2023 18:51

Unless you call his sibling’s birthday presents ‘extras’ then that’s not what his are, they’re his birthday presents.

Has he ever had a birthday party with his friends? The run up to Christmas is a great time for an early birthday party because everyone is in the mood for a good time. Maybe this year you could have a couple of his friends round for a birthday tea?

Yes I suppose it's just getting out of the habit of conflating the two, but I will make more of an effort to distinguish them. I'll get DH and the girls on board to do the same.

As I have said before, DS is not all that "big" on birthdays, and I don't think he would be if his birthday was in any other month because hes not the type of lad who likes a lot of fuss made of him.

He's never had a birthday party. But I think he'd enjoy having a couple of mates round for the evening one night before the Christmas hols to play video games togetherSmile

CowboyJoanna · 10/10/2023 20:43

BlairWaldorfOG · 10/10/2023 16:41

@CowboyJoanna our daughter has a birthday around the same time as your son, it does tend to feel a bit less "extra" than the others but she does get gifts. Maybe if he genuinely doesn't want or need anything else other than what he has for Christmas you could roll the gift over so give him an IOU/ cash in for later in the year? With the cake, my daughter is a bit pudding-d out by her birthday and isn't a huge cake lover but she likes things like a giant cookie with candles or something a little different.

You don't need to go all out pulling Christmas decs down but a banner and a couple of balloons and a birthday breakfast always goes down well with my daughter. My parents didn't go wild for my birthday but the touches differentiated between my birthday and every other Christmas time day and made it feel special.

"Pudding'd out"

Yep, that's exactly why we've never done a birthday cake for DS. Sad
Problem is he's not a fan of cookies, and we don't do blowing out candles in our family (DD13 never wanted to, the other kids have preferred sparklers since covid).

If he doesn't want a birthday cake (which i suspect he wouldn't, hes not that much of a sweet tooth to be honest. but we will ask him of course), we can do him a special birthday pizza...with loads of sparklers of course!Wink

metellaestinatrio · 11/10/2023 18:42

My DC1’s birthday is Christmas Eve. We make Christmas Eve all about the birthday, not Christmas, until bedtime. So we have birthday balloons, banners etc. up in the kitchen (Christmas tree and Christmas stuff in the sitting room), do birthday presents (in birthday paper!) and cards in the morning and then a special birthday outing (often to the theatre to see something non-Christmassy, but we’ve also been ice skating and to the zoo) including a birthday lunch out. We have birthday cake when we get home and then when they are getting ready for bed all DC get their Christmas pyjamas and we put out stockings and mince pies etc. for Father Christmas - that is where the birthday ends and Christmas begins. In some ways it is a good birthday because he is never disappointed his birthday is over - he has Christmas to look forward to!

His party is a bit of a moveable feast - we usually do it in January which spreads the presents out a bit but did a half birthday in June one year which worked well. If I want to get him something big like a bike we get it in the summer and then he will have a small main Christmas present (he is not yet old enough to understand the value of gifts and gets so much from others on Christmas Day he wouldn’t notice anyway). So far it seems to work well, but I am always absolutely knackered by the end of Christmas Day!!

nicky2512 · 11/10/2023 18:54

Ds was born on Christmas Day. We always just made a big fuss of how special it was. His birthday cards, banners etc were put up alongside Christmas things. Birthday present from us was opened upstairs after his stocking and before he went down for Santa stuff. Other birthday presents waited until later in the day.

Birthday cake is after Christmas dinner. So really a mix of the two.
if he was having a party it was the weekend before.

He loved it. Now says at least he was never at school on his birthday!

oh and he gets a wee cake on 25 June too.

18 this year and no complaints yet!

Qwerty21 · 14/10/2023 13:23

CowboyJoanna · 10/10/2023 20:43

"Pudding'd out"

Yep, that's exactly why we've never done a birthday cake for DS. Sad
Problem is he's not a fan of cookies, and we don't do blowing out candles in our family (DD13 never wanted to, the other kids have preferred sparklers since covid).

If he doesn't want a birthday cake (which i suspect he wouldn't, hes not that much of a sweet tooth to be honest. but we will ask him of course), we can do him a special birthday pizza...with loads of sparklers of course!Wink

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I'm late to come back to the thread but I'm so pleased by your updates, I was genuinely feeling sad for your son. I know Christmas is exhausting and expensive, but it's really not that hard to make a bit of effort and it's the same time every year so can save up all year.

GingerLiberalFeminist · 14/10/2023 13:31

Watchin with interest as our LO will be 1 on 22nd this year.

We'd planned to do a half birthday/summer party when she gets bigger so she gets a kids party. We were going to tie this to her christening date (16th July). It wouldn't have presente per se but it's a kids party at least.

This year DH's family is doing her a party earlier but they've already said "we will get her clothes for her birthday and presents for Christmas". When she is a bit older I'll put a stop to that as I want her to have a separate birthday and Christmas present experience not merged presents.

PinkArt · 14/10/2023 13:47

@Paynefully Yup, I'm a very early Jan baby and present stress was a real thing as a kid! It was so important to kid me to get it right, as there wasn't another present window until next year. Did I want the My Little Pony grooming parlour or a Sylvanian house?? What was I more likely to play with all year. It's a lot when you're 7 and have no control over your own finances 😂
@CowboyJoanna Your early posts on this thread made me desperately sad for your child. Christmas birthdays so easily get sucked into the Christmas vortex but I was always so incredibly grateful to my parents they they saw that and made sure my new year birthday was as special and important as if it had been a summer one. So no joint Christmas-and-birthday presents, no Christmas wrapping paper for birthday presents, obviously I always had a birthday cake. Being the other side of Christmas, decorations always came down in time for birthday balloons and cards to be put up instead. Like a couple of others I genuinely thought yours must be troll posts (he doesn't even get birthday presents, let alone birthday ones wrapped in Christmas paper?!) and I sort of still hope they are, or that at least you have heard what the grown up Christmas babies are all saying here. Of course he's not big on birthdays if his has never been celebrated in any way! Just let him see that his day matters as much as anyone else's does.

Brefugee · 14/10/2023 13:48

CowboyJoanna · 30/09/2023 22:29

My DS was born two days after Christmas. It's a crap time of year for birthdays, this is going to sound really bad but we're so worn out by all the Christmas festivities we just don't make a huge fuss of it. DS gets a card but we don't bother with extra presents with birthday wrapping, nor cake (too much food left over to eat up!!). Thankfully DS couldn't care less about birthdays anyway so he's happy, but my mum always goes on at me about how it isn't fair

But if your son is used to a proper celebration though i would continue to do that, but maybe on Christmas Eve so he gets a sense of celebrating the actual day?

Are there siblings? Do they get birthday presents?

Brefugee · 14/10/2023 13:54

CowboyJoanna · 09/10/2023 18:14

That is correct. On paper it sounds unfair but it wouldn't be practical to give DS more presents, we already spoil all four kids rotten on Christmas Day Grin

Every year my mum gives the girls one Christmas present, and DS gets two (both are in Christmas paper but she writes "happy birthday Noah" on one of the tags). My siblings don't do presents at all (my eldest sister only sends us a single Christmas card for the household that reads "happy Christmas to all the family, PS Happy birthday to Noah!") All my Australian inlaws do a single joint present for DS that works out more expensive than the girls' Christmas gifts.

As I've said before, we're all so worn out after Christmas festivities nobody is really in the mood to go whole hog on DS's birthday, not even DS himself. So an ordinary chillout day is all we've ever really done.

God that's mean. Poor lad

punchthecake · 14/10/2023 14:32

I have Christmas Eve twins. They’ve always seen birthday/Christmas as being part of the same celebration really. We talked about half birthdays but they weren’t keen, they like the house being festive, they like the advent calendar being a countdown to their birthday. Outings on the 23rd used to be what we’d prefer but to honest at least one of us was always ill by then so we gave up when they were younger. Enough room in our bellies for a birthday cake which they’re usually happy to share and doubles up as a Christmas Day desert as we don’t like christmas cake/pudding. It needn’t be a big issue, as he gets older he’ll be able to tell you what he’d like. We had a whole-class party when they were 5. They were totally overexcited and overwhelmed by the amount of unwrapping, never did that again!

SeaToSki · 14/10/2023 15:02

Im a Christmas Eve baby and there are definite benefits. For starters everyone is usually home for your birthday (especially as you get older and siblings start scattering). Everyone is usually in the celebration mindset. Maybe as a result for my dc I have more of a morning mindset for birthdays..

We focus on breakfast /early morning being the big birthday moment, so the presents are set up the night before on the coffee table and all the siblings make a ‘throne’ out of one of the living room chairs with their blankets and fuzzy friends etc. Then in the morning the birthday child has a helium balloon and banners on their chair at the breakfast table and DH makes birthday pancakes for all. We then go and do presents in the living room with the birthday dc sitting on the throne. Then playing and fun until lunch (or school depending on which dc it it). Then a birthday lunch or dinner chosen by the birthday child and cake and singing.

For my birthday now, given that I host Christmas every year, we do a birthday lunch of my choice and a very small cake (so its always eaten up in one sitting). I usually choose a pub lunch out and extended family join in and its a lovely start to the Christmas festivities.

it all, works out as a nice addition to Christmas rather than taking away from it.

My parents used to ask me for present ideas every year and we came to an agreement that if there was enough stuff that I definitely wanted in Dec then I would get the gifts for birthday and Xmas, and if I couldn’t think of enough ideas, then money would be put back for later in the year when there might be something I did want (like a summer toy etc)

CowboyJoanna · 14/10/2023 15:41

PinkArt · 14/10/2023 13:47

@Paynefully Yup, I'm a very early Jan baby and present stress was a real thing as a kid! It was so important to kid me to get it right, as there wasn't another present window until next year. Did I want the My Little Pony grooming parlour or a Sylvanian house?? What was I more likely to play with all year. It's a lot when you're 7 and have no control over your own finances 😂
@CowboyJoanna Your early posts on this thread made me desperately sad for your child. Christmas birthdays so easily get sucked into the Christmas vortex but I was always so incredibly grateful to my parents they they saw that and made sure my new year birthday was as special and important as if it had been a summer one. So no joint Christmas-and-birthday presents, no Christmas wrapping paper for birthday presents, obviously I always had a birthday cake. Being the other side of Christmas, decorations always came down in time for birthday balloons and cards to be put up instead. Like a couple of others I genuinely thought yours must be troll posts (he doesn't even get birthday presents, let alone birthday ones wrapped in Christmas paper?!) and I sort of still hope they are, or that at least you have heard what the grown up Christmas babies are all saying here. Of course he's not big on birthdays if his has never been celebrated in any way! Just let him see that his day matters as much as anyone else's does.

God I feel so awful now.Sad

I can assure you they definitely are not troll posts. But I know one thing, this year will not be the same as all the last. DS is definitely getting birthday presents and paper this year, even if I have to cut down a bit on everyone else's Christmas gifts, he deserves it.

BlairWaldorfOG · 14/10/2023 15:48

@CowboyJoanna sometimes it just helps to get perspective from others who are in similar situations because being a Christmas Eve baby myself then having summer children and my "just after" Christmas birthday is the one I find hardest to arrange. Birthday pizza sounds fab and something my daughter would enjoy too. It's the simple things sometimes like with my daughter we don't do anything that differently to what we probably would do on a post Christmas day but when we're playing board games as a family she might get a party hat or sash to wear and we make a little "oh birthday girl gets to go first" fuss.

Meadowflower2023 · 14/10/2023 16:22

I'm so pleased for your son @CowboyJoanna I know you say he's not really bothered but inside he'll be deeply happy that you've made a little effort on his birthday. Im a Christmas week baby and my parents didn't bother or make a fuss for me (one time my 'D'M forgot and drove to the nearest shop - newsagents - so I ended up with a handful of magazines that birthday! Money wasn't even an issue, it was sheer lack of effort) you don't forget these things.

PinkArt · 14/10/2023 16:23

CowboyJoanna · 14/10/2023 15:41

God I feel so awful now.Sad

I can assure you they definitely are not troll posts. But I know one thing, this year will not be the same as all the last. DS is definitely getting birthday presents and paper this year, even if I have to cut down a bit on everyone else's Christmas gifts, he deserves it.

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Don't waste energy on feeling bad, just channel it towards the changes you can make for him this year. Ultimately he deserves the level of treat everyone else in the family gets. It's not his fault he was born when he was.
He might feel a bit overwhelmed thinking of double the present ideas, so if he does maybe he could get money in place of some to buy himself stuff in the sales or later in the year. Sales shopping with birthday money is the one huge benefit of being a Christmas baby!
And if it feels too overwhelming for him to add a birthday party to the mix this year too - presumably he hasn't had those either - then postponing it until his half birthday in the summer might work better. We did that a few times when I was little as there are so many more options when it's sunny.

Sugarfree23 · 14/10/2023 17:35

@CowboyJoanna have you ever asked him what he'd like for his birthday?
I bet its just not crossed his mind that he's never had birthday presents. But glad you are going to change it. Hopefully he won't remember that he's never had a birthday present.

Something to open and maybe some money to spend later in the year might be a way to go.

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bexboz · 20/12/2023 19:06

TMess · 07/10/2023 21:44

My birthday is Christmas Day and I always loved it tbh. My parents made a big effort though - birthday paper, decor, no “this is Christmas and birthday!” gifts, etc. and I usually had to have my “friend party” in November or January. The whole extended family was always there for my birthday and I got twice as many gifts as my friends, what’s not to love. I still quite like it as an adult because at an age where birthdays aren’t really a “thing” anymore, nobody can escape mine. 😂

This is so nice to hear! My DS is a Christmas Day baby and I hope he has a such good Xmas and birthday memories as you :)

BrieAndChilli · 21/12/2023 09:02

DS1 birthday is the 22nd. He is 17 this year son we are going to do an escape room and lunch out. When he was younger we tended to have his party either early/mid December or early January.

housethatbuiltme · 21/12/2023 11:26

Its not as bad for DS as its a week AFTER Christmas but we tended to prioritize party and/or experiences/holiday more for birthday.

When he was little we would go on holiday as he didn't have anyone to invite to a party. In primary school we did the holiday and whole class party and now in his teen we do an activity with him and meal.

Gifts this year are tickets to a show (not until mid year) and a few novelties (pet toy to use with our pets, fidget toy, calendar etc... almost more stocking filler stuff)

Growing up Christmas was always the big gift giving event of the year, I think presents I think Christmas. Birthdays (ours weren't near christmas) we got stuff but it wasn't the same as Christmas (just a few smaller gifts) and then a big party.

I never really think of birthdays as huge gifting events really.

housethatbuiltme · 21/12/2023 11:40

Meadowflower2023 · 14/10/2023 16:22

I'm so pleased for your son @CowboyJoanna I know you say he's not really bothered but inside he'll be deeply happy that you've made a little effort on his birthday. Im a Christmas week baby and my parents didn't bother or make a fuss for me (one time my 'D'M forgot and drove to the nearest shop - newsagents - so I ended up with a handful of magazines that birthday! Money wasn't even an issue, it was sheer lack of effort) you don't forget these things.

DH birthday is mid year, falls on a bank holiday (easy to remember right?) and his parents forgot his birthday until the last minute often.

One year when he was 8 they completely forgot. He kept thinking something was coming right up until bedtime when he finally realized they completely forgot him.

I was applauded, how does someone forget that? (wasn't in the wake of disaster like a death or medical emergencies either that might justify bigger goings on, they just simply forgot about him).

housethatbuiltme · 21/12/2023 11:50

CowboyJoanna · 10/10/2023 20:28

Yes I suppose it's just getting out of the habit of conflating the two, but I will make more of an effort to distinguish them. I'll get DH and the girls on board to do the same.

As I have said before, DS is not all that "big" on birthdays, and I don't think he would be if his birthday was in any other month because hes not the type of lad who likes a lot of fuss made of him.

He's never had a birthday party. But I think he'd enjoy having a couple of mates round for the evening one night before the Christmas hols to play video games togetherSmile

My DH has that same not big on birthdays attitude because he was always forgotten... its a self defense protection thing.

He tells people his family 'just don't do birthdays' but they do, we have been to lots of family parties... they just don't do them for him (so I make his birthday special now).

Sugarfree23 · 21/12/2023 11:50

How can you forget your own kids birthday?

@CowboyJoanna is your boy looking forward to Birthday & Christmas ?

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housethatbuiltme · 21/12/2023 12:20

CowboyJoanna · 08/10/2023 20:49

Yes I suppose if you're a "birthday" fan it is really crap. If DS was big into his birthdays he'd get extra presents too (well, not "extra" presents because he'd get the same amount of presents as his sisters, but we'd spread them out so a couple of them he'd have to wait until the 27th to open).

But the fact is, he's nearly 10 and we've always done his birthdays like this. He's never had a party obviously, its not practical to have a birthday cake because it wont get eaten (normally we cut off a piece of leftover cake and stick a number sparkler in it, last year we saved Christmas pudding til the 27th and we sang happy birthday while DH flamed it. We were all in hysterics Grin)

When December rolls around, he only talks about what he wants for Christmas. It's like his birthday never really crosses his mind all that much to be honest.

'last year we saved Christmas pudding til the 27th and we sang happy birthday while DH flamed it. We were all in hysterics'

Wow that sounds like pure salt in the would... you literally laughed hysterically in his face about it?

Here is the Xmas left overs kid, you don't get a proper cake of your own so we are going to mock you about it, isn't that the funniest thing ever?

Derb · 21/12/2023 12:35

My sons birthday is 15th Dec so admittedly not as bad but some years we do gifts and ask family to give cash so he can chose something he wants himself later in Tyne year or January sales.

Dizzy82 · 21/12/2023 12:38

My son will be 18 this Xmas Eve, always done separate presents and taken him out somewhere for food. We usuall see some family and exchange Christmas presents as well. My family have always ensured separate presents and birthday wrapping paper. Now he is older he tends to have a large present covering both birthday and xmas and then smaller wrap ups for each day.