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MIL Santa’s Grotto

84 replies

ReenTD · 08/11/2022 20:11

My MIL has asked to take my DD (4) and DS (2) to see Santa this week. This would be their 1st trip to see him in their lives. I said I appreciated being asked, but actually, I would rather us to take them on our own for this one. But now my H is upset with me as he has to tell his mum ‘no’. Am I being unreasonable?

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TheaBrandt · 09/11/2022 19:40

Also agree with Ican. They can go again with you. They are tiny utterly clueless and won’t even remember.

Fireballxl5 · 09/11/2022 19:42

Tbh OP one of the dc will probably be scared and refuse to go near Santa so I would get mil to go with you and if necessary she can take a dc out if it’s too much leaving you to enjoy Santa with other dc.

Cats23 · 09/11/2022 19:45

NoNamesLeft234678 · 08/11/2022 21:36

The first is definitely for you!! The first everything should be yours really

Agree

ElmoNeedsThePotty · 09/11/2022 19:57

It's obviously important to so many but I really couldn't give a toss about "firsts"

17 years down the line and I can't remember a single one.

I must be a terrible Mother!😅

Lalalaleeloo · 09/11/2022 20:16

My mil took Ds to see Santa for the first time. I didn't go. I had no idea this was a thing to have a power struggle over. It suits me, I don't want to see the bastard Grin

saraclara · 09/11/2022 20:44

Cats23 · 09/11/2022 19:45

Agree

Can someone please provide me with the official list of firsts that I shouldn't even ask if it's okay for me to do with my DGDs? Because clearly I didn't get the full grandmother instruction manual.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 09/11/2022 20:47

Fireballxl5 · 09/11/2022 19:42

Tbh OP one of the dc will probably be scared and refuse to go near Santa so I would get mil to go with you and if necessary she can take a dc out if it’s too much leaving you to enjoy Santa with other dc.

They always have a meltdown at age 2, seeing Santa

2pinkginsplease · 09/11/2022 21:05

saraclara · 09/11/2022 20:44

Can someone please provide me with the official list of firsts that I shouldn't even ask if it's okay for me to do with my DGDs? Because clearly I didn't get the full grandmother instruction manual.

I would say that it would be none. Firsts are for parents, you had your firsts when you were a parent. Now it’s your child to have hose joys.

TheOnlyBeeInYourBonnet · 09/11/2022 21:19

How's the woman supposed to know that this is something a mother wants to do all by herself unless she asks? How does she even know for sure that they haven't been before - I mean if you've been in a shopping centre in December, how could you miss it? All this shit about 'boundry (sic) stomping'.... my god. If she took OP's 'no thank you, I'd like to take them myself' with good grace I just don't see what the issue is.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/11/2022 21:20

No, YANBU (apart from thinking about it in November 😁)

NoDoor · 09/11/2022 21:22

Icantthinkwhat · 09/11/2022 08:16

Oh FGS is there nothing a MIL can do right. ? Do you seriously ALL remember you first visit to Santa ? In NOVEMBER ??

I absolutely fucking despair... and thank God everyday that I have only one son and a number of daughters . That way the nasty, unkind females such as those that hang out here - obsessing about 'taking control' and 'enforcing boundaries' will be limited to 1.

This harridan or horror wants to take your child to see Santa and Asked YOU first . Instead of just doing it whilst out with her grandchildren .

You feel she's 'taking over' ... haven't been fussed before .. but my god NOW you are going to put this terrible woman in her place !

I am so fucking fed up with this attitude from women to other women and wish ten sons upon you all with similar unpleasant daughter in laws .

Or you could just say 'That's lovely, THANK YOU' .. and then when it is ACTUALLY Christmas and your kids are getting hyped from it seeping from every inch of the fabric of their environment. .. take them again .

Oh wow! This has hit a nerve with you.
@ReenTD ignore the rant above.
@Icantthinkwhat why the actual fuck would you get to do something clearly important to the Op? Bet you stamped your feet your didn’t get to to the first feed/bath/walk in a pram. You’ve had your chance with your own kids, let their mum be their mum. Good luck to your poor DIL!

NoDoor · 09/11/2022 21:23

2pinkginsplease · 09/11/2022 21:05

I would say that it would be none. Firsts are for parents, you had your firsts when you were a parent. Now it’s your child to have hose joys.

This with bells on

Shodan · 09/11/2022 21:24

It's not weird to want the 'firsts' for yourselves as parents.

Maybe, because you mention that MIL has already done several 'firsts' (first shoe shop used to be a thing I'm sure- Clarks would even take a photo for you. I still have ds2's somewhere), you feel you've been very accommodating up until now and can't understand why your H is making a fuss over this one thing you've said you'd like to do?

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/11/2022 21:29

Blimey, Icantthinkwhat. Sleep badly?

saraclara · 09/11/2022 21:46

NoDoor · 09/11/2022 21:23

This with bells on

Yes, but what ARE the firsts?! Because I honestly don't know! How can I know what not to do if I don't know what the firsts are that parents are supposed to have! Because like I said in a previous post, firsts weren't really a thing when I had my kids.

There was one on here once where a GP took their toddler GC to a cafe, and it turned out that that was a 'first'. That would never occur to me, and I'm not sure how any GP would know whether the GC had been to one before.

And it turns out that even asking if it's okay to do something, is wrong, if this OP is anything to go by. Apparently that signifies crossing boundaries or being controlling.

My post was mainly intended humorously, but actually it would be helpful to know what things/activities are considered 'firsts'.

saraclara · 09/11/2022 21:49

TheOnlyBeeInYourBonnet · 09/11/2022 21:19

How's the woman supposed to know that this is something a mother wants to do all by herself unless she asks? How does she even know for sure that they haven't been before - I mean if you've been in a shopping centre in December, how could you miss it? All this shit about 'boundry (sic) stomping'.... my god. If she took OP's 'no thank you, I'd like to take them myself' with good grace I just don't see what the issue is.

Thanks for making my point more succinctly. And especially for this:

If she took OP's 'no thank you, I'd like to take them myself' with good grace I just don't see what the issue is.

Nor do I

Namechangeagain5 · 09/11/2022 21:56

At our local children’s hairdresser, you can pay a fiver more for a “first haircut” experience, meaning they get a bit of the cut off hair and give it to you. Literally selling someone’s own child’s hair back to them 😂

ReenTD · 09/11/2022 21:57

saraclara · 09/11/2022 21:46

Yes, but what ARE the firsts?! Because I honestly don't know! How can I know what not to do if I don't know what the firsts are that parents are supposed to have! Because like I said in a previous post, firsts weren't really a thing when I had my kids.

There was one on here once where a GP took their toddler GC to a cafe, and it turned out that that was a 'first'. That would never occur to me, and I'm not sure how any GP would know whether the GC had been to one before.

And it turns out that even asking if it's okay to do something, is wrong, if this OP is anything to go by. Apparently that signifies crossing boundaries or being controlling.

My post was mainly intended humorously, but actually it would be helpful to know what things/activities are considered 'firsts'.

I didn’t actually say that her asking was wrong or even an issue… I asked was if me wanting to do the first Santa trip was being unreasonable. Just to clear that up! 😄

I personally wouldn’t count going to a cafe as a significant ‘first’ either …unless that’s the sort of thing you take a photograph of, put in a frame on your wall/desk and potentially use as a Christmas card for all your friends and family? 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

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saraclara · 09/11/2022 21:59

ReenTD · 09/11/2022 21:57

I didn’t actually say that her asking was wrong or even an issue… I asked was if me wanting to do the first Santa trip was being unreasonable. Just to clear that up! 😄

I personally wouldn’t count going to a cafe as a significant ‘first’ either …unless that’s the sort of thing you take a photograph of, put in a frame on your wall/desk and potentially use as a Christmas card for all your friends and family? 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

But you did say:
but all my ‘mum instincts’ are screaming that she’s trying to take over...
..so it seems like you did mind her along? Or at least read more into it than she might have intended?

saraclara · 09/11/2022 21:59

.."mind her asking", rather

TheOnlyBeeInYourBonnet · 09/11/2022 22:02

I didn’t actually say that her asking was wrong or even an issue… I asked was if me wanting to do the first Santa trip was being unreasonable. Just to clear that up! 😄

Yes your question was reasonable but some of the OMG HOW FUCKING DARE SHE????!!!! responses are ridiculous, I think a lot of the debate is in response to them not you OP!

ReenTD · 09/11/2022 22:07

saraclara · 09/11/2022 21:59

But you did say:
but all my ‘mum instincts’ are screaming that she’s trying to take over...
..so it seems like you did mind her along? Or at least read more into it than she might have intended?

I minded that she was pushing to take them without us… when it was still November! I politely said no thank you but when my DH made a fuss I second guessed myself. But my instincts did say “don’t let yourself be walked over with this one” as I do give in to a lot to other things.

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SuperCamp · 09/11/2022 22:07

I know on mumsnet everything from the first haircut to the first time scraping dog shit out of their wellies is a ‘special first’

😂😂😂

Mischance · 10/11/2022 09:43

I am a MIL.

If I had suggested taking any of my GC to see santa, and if any DD or SIL felt that they really wanted to do this themselves (first or not) they would simply have told me.

They do of course do lots of wonderful things with the GC, and I am delighted about that. I am included on some of these outings, and I also do things with them on their own.

None of it is an issue.

They would have told me without the emotional bias that OP seems to have that MIL is muscling in on something in a nefarious way. They would just have expressed a preference - and I would get it and say "Send me a pic on whatsapp! - have a great time!"

There has to be history here I think. It is all overblown. It is not a big deal at all.

User359472111111 · 10/11/2022 10:50

Kanaloa · 08/11/2022 20:52

I don’t think it’s out of order to ask. I know on mumsnet everything from the first haircut to the first time scraping dog shit out of their wellies is a ‘special first’ but in real life most people wouldn’t mind somebody simply asking to join an activity.

If you generally get on well I’d invite her with you or maybe to another similar event.

🤣

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