..as in postman.bin men - we never really see the bin men in passing and in all my grown up life I've never known one come to the door for a Christmas tip. I used to give money to the lovely postman where we used to live as I'd see him and chat everyday - he was wonderful and would come every day at the same time - he used to buy selection boxes for the children in our road - anyway, I would give him a card and a tenner.
Now our postman here is nice,not always the same one and I never know when he is coming so it's a bit tricky to catch him,if I were to tip him. What does everyone else do ?