Christian Sabbath Keepers

[PraiseHim]

Are there any Christian Sabbath Keepers on this board?

Please do say hello 🙏🏼🤍

I did answer you

love is the unchanging principle of heaven

This is true. It's still church. I am interested that you haven't actually said if you're part of a church.

Churches in the Bible were often in people's homes but they were very important for fellowship, correction, discipling one another, serving, developing our gifts, teaching, worship and not being a lone wolf.

God knows your situation, I’m certain that if you need to get a salad or whatever, (because you have no one to help you) to sustain you He won’t begrudge you that

I did wonder if you were a Seventh Day Adventist @PraiseHim.

I fellowship, that is the command. Also, there are only literally a couple of Christian churches which honour the 7th day Sabbath and only one of those that Stand on biblical doctrine alone

Ok I feel like you're missing the point of being a Christian. It's not about following the rules, it's about your relationship with Jesus and being part of a group of his people. That's clear from so much in the new testament. I'm not really up for everything being about one particular law and judging everyone on whether they keep that or not. Best if I don't engage. I wish you all the best.

No, I’m not a 7th day Adventist, although their doctrine is correct biblically. I am a disciple of Christ

for the sake of others reading this thread I will respond, I understand you will no longer engage.

Being in Christ requires fellowship with other believers and being transformed by the Holy Spirit so that we keep His commandments, so it is about keeping His law. Jesus is forever saying “if ye love me, keep my commandments’, the same message continually runs through the old testament also.

There is one judge, and He is coming back very soon with His reward, either of Eternal Life, or condemnation

I have discussed this with my rector at church.

They said that in Christanity Jesus was about healing and miracles. Today our expectation should be that anything that helps us to heal is ok to do so on the day of rest for conditions that did not exist when the Bible was written.

So for me to obtain food where I need to, yes.
A person suffers from depression and finds gardening helpful, so yes as well.
Your in a crisis mentally and need time out for therapy for autism, yes as well.

It would be interesting to find out if modern Judaism has captured these exceptions.

Sorry, I didn’t add, yes, it is 100% about a personal relationship with God, by the power of His Devine Grace through the Faith Of (not IN, as some versions of the bible have the people believing) Jesus

Love is a verb, an action. Jesus, whilst He did perform healing and miracles, was to be an example to us how to serve God acceptably, in perfect obedience in love to our Heavenly Father and to one another. That was His ministry, to show us how to please God. He is the Creator And Perfecter of our Faith.

Medical needs need to be taken care of on Sabbath, without a doubt.

Hi, OP.
I find myself disagreeing with much you have stated here.

I’ve no desire to get into a theological debate on this board (I think the philosophy/religion board is the appropriate arena for debates).

That said, I would just be interested to know if you acknowledge the Sabbath as our Lord did ie from sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday?

Yes I acknowledge the same Sabbath structure as established at Creation (evening to evening). There is no other way, other than the biblical way, to acknowledge Sabbath, anything else is error.

The Truths I have stated on this thread are biblical, so if you disagree, you do not disagree with me, as I am not the creator of them

We will have to agree to disagree then, OP.
I acknowledge scripture as the ultimate authority in all matters and yet I don’t agree with you 🤔

I won’t be debating with you on this board.
Have a good day.

What don’t you agree with?

"We will have to agree to disagree then, OP.
I acknowledge scripture as the ultimate authority in all matters and yet I don’t agree with you"

This is such an important point. Thanks @LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms
As Christians there will be things we interpret differently in the Bible, things that even scholars of the Bible will view differently. It's not good to assume we have the only correct view, and it's something that can happen more if someone isn't connected to a church where they can hear a range of teaching from different people that might challenge them.

I think we need to show grace to one another and try to focus on the things that unite us, particularly on a forum like this where we all come from different places. There is (hopefully) a lot of common ground.

Today going to church I dropped a rubbish bag in a commual pathway and it was too much to my eye to leave it like that. I did my preparation for cleaning yesterday and so a lot of the cleaning stuff was highly used. I couldn't leave it like that. I thought just to leave it for everyone is not showing things in the best light. It wasn't my housework but seemed like an emergency unplanned one as well.

The gardening I understood how it can be integral to some people when it was explained. It will be experienced differently for each us of. It can be based on experience as well.

Reading this you will understand why I saw it as a chore. For me when I was growing up I couldn't stand gardening and didn't particularly want to do it or look forward to ir as a job at home .I have never had a garden of my own. I would like a small balcony. Also, I love looking after some plants at home. I also did a course on nature therapy echogarden but had to stop as although I like being in nature and I did enjoy cutting some plants and then discussing them I needed to be around water so left. I enjoy being in nature and water particularly. My entire youtube is mostly full of nature days out.

I am well aware now that some people love gardening and its a joy for them.

But it’s important for people to understand that it is those who keep the commandments of God and have testimony of Jesus who will Stand in that great day which is fast approaching. Those who hold to the biblical Truths, as written, will see Eternity, with their Lord.

if perfect obedience to the law is not a requirement, why did Jesus have to be a perfect sacrifice ? He was sinless because He put His faith in God and never sinned. Sin is transgression of the law. Jesus repeats throughout the New Testament (and Old) that if we love Him, we keep His commandments. John 14, 15 & 16 are great chapters for this. Also the First Epistle of John goes over and over this.

The bible says He will teach us all things and lead us into all Truth, and to not put our faith in man.

Grace and Peace to you

if perfect obedience to the law is not a requirement, why did Jesus have to be a perfect sacrifice ?

It was the perfect obedience of Jesus that was the perfect sacrifice. He did it for us. It's a fine line between saved by works or faith. Our good deeds and obedience have to come out of a loving response to what he did. Our obedience is not what saves us.

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid, yea, we establish the law
Romans 3:31

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep His commandments.

He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the Truth is not in him.
But whosoever keepth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected, hereby know we that we are in Him
He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked
1John 2: 3-6

I'm not going to debate with you @PraiseHim

I don't think those scriptures say what you think they do. I'm concerned that you're being legalistic and trying to be saved by works. I hope in future we can find common ground. Why not come give us a testimony of some answers to prayer or something God has done for you over on the testimony thread and we can rejoice with you?

The Scripture I gave you means exactly what it says

It does indeed. But your interpretation may not be right. It's certainly not the only one.

Anyway all the best. I look forward to posts on our common ground. God bless.

What is your interpretation of those scriptures?