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What does your Church do, that you really wish they didn't?

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Sausagenbacon · 24/12/2024 09:32

I'm obviously not going to do a flounce on the basis of this, but..
We used to have hymn numbers in the service sheet (there's no boards). But they've stopped doing that, in the aim of inclusion. Instead, the hymn numbers are announced during the service.
Which is ok, except when we stand to offer one another a sign of peace.
So the clergy say 'you may now offer each other a sign of peace, and the next hymn is xx'
Written down, it doesn't sound that bad, but it actually feels like an interruption in a lovely part of the service.

OP posts:
NewName24 · 13/01/2025 14:39

ballroompink · 13/01/2025 07:36

Having worship, the sermon and then going into ANOTHER time of worship with several more songs. I really just want to go home at that point. This is a C of E church by the way.

Also less so in this church but certainly an issue in previous churches - dictating what expression of worship is 'right'. Constant encouraging of people to jump around, dance, shout, etc.

If you are using 'worship' to mean 'singing', then I would feel short changed if we didn't sing more than once. Smile

ChristmasStars · 13/01/2025 14:43

It's good preparation for heaven when there will be lots of singing worship around the throne 😀

12purplepencils · 13/01/2025 14:48

It will probably sound a bit nicer there 🤭

ChristmasStars · 13/01/2025 14:50

Fair point @12purplepencils

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 15:15

We have hymn, prayer, reading, hymn, reading, sermon, hymn, prayer, hymn.
Blessing and done.

mostlydrinkstea · 13/01/2025 15:37

We have the C of E Common Worship Communion Service which is:

Welcome
Hymn
Prayers of penitence and absolution
Reading from the New and Old Testament
Hymn
Gospel
Sermon
Creed
Prayers
Hymn
Holy Communion
Notices
Blessing
Hymn
Coffee/tea/sherry/whatever wine we can find in the fridge.....

When I arrived here the notices were at the beginning but like true Anglicans many are late and we are really only up to full strength by the second hymn, so I moved the end.

SensibleSigma · 13/01/2025 15:48

ballroompink · 13/01/2025 07:36

Having worship, the sermon and then going into ANOTHER time of worship with several more songs. I really just want to go home at that point. This is a C of E church by the way.

Also less so in this church but certainly an issue in previous churches - dictating what expression of worship is 'right'. Constant encouraging of people to jump around, dance, shout, etc.

Do you think it’s about ‘right’ or perhaps about ‘unexpected but allowed’?

Most people would feel uncomfortable moving around during worship, if they have been in traditional churches. By emphasising it’s ok, they are reversing that perhaps?

I like to stand at the back where I can be a bit mobile without anyone seeing. I struggle to stand still and worship, it’s a whole body activity for me possibly from playing instruments.

ballroompink · 13/01/2025 16:21

DistractMe · 13/01/2025 14:29

I think ballroompink means they sing a few songs at the beginning of the service, then have the sermon, and then sing another bunch of songs.

Yes that's it. There isn't a set end time. Yesterday we had to leave and it was still going on 1hr 45mins in.

ballroompink · 13/01/2025 16:22

SensibleSigma · 13/01/2025 15:48

Do you think it’s about ‘right’ or perhaps about ‘unexpected but allowed’?

Most people would feel uncomfortable moving around during worship, if they have been in traditional churches. By emphasising it’s ok, they are reversing that perhaps?

I like to stand at the back where I can be a bit mobile without anyone seeing. I struggle to stand still and worship, it’s a whole body activity for me possibly from playing instruments.

My experience has been not of telling people that it's OK, but telling people that they should be being more demonstrative.

NewName24 · 13/01/2025 16:30

When I arrived here the notices were at the beginning but like true Anglicans many are late and we are really only up to full strength by the second hymn, so I moved the end.

My last Church did notices at the beginning, and my current one does them at the end.

I'm always there on time, but still find notices at the end MUCH more effective, as I can then remember to respond to them. When they are at the beginning, I think 'Oh, I'll sign up to that / put it in the diary / speak to so and so about it / etc' but will have forgotten after an hour, when free to do so. Smile

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 16:36

@ballroompink I'd have to leave a church if dancing, jumping around and shouting became the expectation.

LadeOde · 13/01/2025 16:55

ballroompink · 13/01/2025 16:21

Yes that's it. There isn't a set end time. Yesterday we had to leave and it was still going on 1hr 45mins in.

I get that. What i meant was the second worship part after the sermon, is it within the allocated overall church service time or does it extend so that they go over the time when 'church' should've ended?

mostlydrinkstea · 13/01/2025 17:16

@ballroompink that's a long service. I try and get the service done in just over an hour at the biggest church and if people want to stay for coffee/wine/chat that's up to them. My village church services are 45 minutes. I can do a Book of Common Prayer Matins service in 30 minutes if I speak fast but with four hymns it is longer. Yesterday it was so cold we were done at speed so we didn't freeze!

ballroompink · 13/01/2025 18:17

LadeOde · 13/01/2025 16:55

I get that. What i meant was the second worship part after the sermon, is it within the allocated overall church service time or does it extend so that they go over the time when 'church' should've ended?

To be honest I'm not really sure if there is an official end time!

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 13/01/2025 18:26

I find myself thinking about the Outpouring at Asbery in 2023. I believe that went on for at least 16 days, 24/7 🙌🏻

DeanElderberry · 13/01/2025 18:36

Every post I read increases my affection for our 'Sunday' Mass, ca 35 minutes start to end, usually no hymns, certainly no actions, 6-7 minute homily grounded in the day's Gospel.

HotBath · 13/01/2025 18:40

DeanElderberry · 13/01/2025 18:36

Every post I read increases my affection for our 'Sunday' Mass, ca 35 minutes start to end, usually no hymns, certainly no actions, 6-7 minute homily grounded in the day's Gospel.

My very devout parents get antsy if Mass takes more than half an hour on Sundays and twenty minutes on weekdays.

DeanElderberry · 13/01/2025 18:43

Quite right too.

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 13/01/2025 18:50

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 13/01/2025 18:26

I find myself thinking about the Outpouring at Asbery in 2023. I believe that went on for at least 16 days, 24/7 🙌🏻

I watched quite a bit of it live online.
It was wonderful.

When the Spirit moves, time means nothing.

I’ve made quite a study of various outpourings throughout the years, in particular The Ulster Revival (circa 1859) and the Revival on the Isle of Lewis (1949-52). Worth looking into. 🔥 🙌🏻

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 19:07

I recently went to a Catholic funeral for the first time. It was nearly 90 minutes. What I found strange was that there were members of the congregation there who didn't know the deceased. Seemingly it was part of the mass that would have been on anyway.

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 13/01/2025 19:11

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 19:07

I recently went to a Catholic funeral for the first time. It was nearly 90 minutes. What I found strange was that there were members of the congregation there who didn't know the deceased. Seemingly it was part of the mass that would have been on anyway.

I’m Irish. We usually bury our dead within three days, unlike the English.
Here we have wakes during that time that are sometimes signposted on the local roads and all sorts of people turn up.

Quite often family members go without sleep or with very little sleep from the moment their loved one passes away until they are buried. And the house is a continuous blur of visitors, tea, sandwiches and cakes.

PauliesWalnuts · 13/01/2025 19:14

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 19:07

I recently went to a Catholic funeral for the first time. It was nearly 90 minutes. What I found strange was that there were members of the congregation there who didn't know the deceased. Seemingly it was part of the mass that would have been on anyway.

These days it’s partly because there aren’t enough Catholic priests around to cover daily Mass at maybe two churches in a parish, plus a funeral, take communion to the housebound, fulfil catholic school chaplain duties, blow their nose and have a sandwich etc.

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 19:21

Not sure. There were 3 priests at this one service.

ChristmasStars · 13/01/2025 19:23

Our service is an hour and a half. The first half hour is a couple of songs, prayer, scripture, updates/ church news. Then about 20-30 mins preaching and then 30 mins of worship / people going up to read scripture or pray or share. I love it.

RaraRachael · 13/01/2025 19:27

Ours is 40 minutes in total with about a 10-15 minute sermon. Suits me fine.

I also enjoy my visits to very high CoE that last 90 minutes. I think it's nice that all churches are so different

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