Another 104 degree temp, nurofen not working now.... HELP!

[BlueBumedFly]

My DD has a history of bad colds, ear infects and tonsillitis.

A few weeks ago she had tonsillitis and had double strength antibiotics to get rid of it, she is allergic to penacillin so have to have useless erythromycin.

Tonight we have yet another 40+ temp, she had nurofen (5ml) at 7pm and it seems to have done nothing. Just given Medised as she is very bunged up and will take her to the out of hours docs in the am.

So, can I give more than 5ml nurofen and also can I give it more than 8 hourly???

I know how to safely combine paracetomol and nurofen so not worried there, just very worried about poor DD. She is 20 months old.

Many thanks to anyone still up and about. I will gratefully receive any messages but may have to pick them up in the morning due to a 5am start with DD and her very high temp.

Many thanks in advance. xx

no don't give more than dosage recommended, but you coudl give her a lukewarm bath to try to bring temp down - not too cold as this will have opposite effect

good luck

Can you phone NHS direct?

To be honest with a 104 temp I would be thinking about a trip to A and E if there are no emergency out of hours doctors open, but that is from a worrier. I hope someone is here soon with better advice.

Duckyfuzz has good advice about the bath. Can you give her a cold drink and put an a towel soaked in cold water on her forehead?

Thanks guys, just got her up to check she is compass mentas (sp?) so to speak, she clearly chatted and asked for her bunny soft toy and took some water. I have stripped her down, put her in a light grobag, turned off the heating, changed her bed clothes and changed her nappy.

She is a bit like me, one sign of an infectiona and whoosh, her temp hits the roof. She was clearly telling me she wanted to get bac into bed and get back to sleep, am going to go check on her now...

Try sponging her down and call nhs direct.Hope she is better soon.

I have just done the online NHS direct questionnaire and it says that with all her symptoms taken into account she has a virus or infections (tonsillitis I suspect as she has refused food all day) and I can treat it at home. Am jut waiting for a few more mins to see how the paracetomol takes effect, she is sleeping really soundly bless her.

What a nightmare, temperatures scare me senseless.

Just been up and taken her temp again, down to 37.8 which is down from 104 to 100. Which is good. She feels much cooler to touch but quite clammy, now I am worried she will get cold and shivery but I guess she will cry to alert me.

Am holding now for NHS direct but they are super busy.

OK, NHS direct have taken all the details and will call me back, hopefully within an hour... Going to go check again now.

how are you getting on there with your dd?
Hope her temp has fallen again.
I'm not one for it but ((((((((((hugs)))))))))) because it sucks when they're sick

Hello elf. thanks so much for posting this morning. Got temp under control at about 2am, doc had said if it went up to 40.2 (was 40.1) then we were off to A&E. She slept in summer clothes and we saw a doc this morning.

Raging ear infect and most prob throat but she would not open her mouth for anything. Have antibs again,

Many thanks for checking. I really appreciate it. xx

I would not take those anti-b's. They are useless. I would look at some more natural ways of healing like increased vitamin c, or some ecchenacia and cutting out dairy. It seems your child is on the hamster wheel of anti-biotics and re-infection from a low immune system cause by the anti biotics killing all the good bacteria. You should get your child so pro-biotics in order to help her replace the good bacteria lost.

Thanks beliver - can you please recommend a good pro-biotic I can try?

I am interested too believer07. I know some natural remedies don't work as the good bacteria are digested in the stomach before they reach the intestines. I don't know what the good remedies are though.

My daughter had strep throat a month ago, and has just got it again. The cycle of antibiotics and reinfection seems to be true here as well.

Believer - are you there? We would really like to hear back from you?

Goodness me I think it is getting worse, we have been through our fair share of bugs with DD including the Norovirus and Infant Reflux but I really do think I have never seen her more poorly than she is right now.

Feel helpless, the pain killers are not really helping, she coughed herself sick today and is refusing all food. Water is still going in by the pint load which is great.

I know antibiotics are not the answer by the sounds of things but we need to get rid of this infection and start the probiotics to help build her up and hopefully fend some bugs off for a while.

At a loss, she is so delicate and sore.

BBF just seen this, am so sorry your dd is unwell....everyone else's too. Horrid, horrid bugs.

Wish I had some wise words, but failing that, wishing them well and their Mums courage and stamina. Its hard seeing LOs feeling so awful.

Is her temp still under control, at least?

I think strep throat/tonsillitis can be incredibly sore, poor love.

And of course you need to finish the ABs: great idea to take things to build up immune system as well, but infection needs sorting too. You're doing all you can, BBF, hope she's ok tonight.

Elibean - many thanks for your kind words. When she got up from her lunch nap she obviously felt hideous, cried and cried. Tonight she ate 3 fishfingers, obviously they are soft enough to cope with as my mash and mince got rejected at lunchtime! Hmmmm, she was sick shortly after that though

Temp is getting there, she was still spiking to 40 last night but has not really gone above 39 today so one degree at a time I guess! I looked in her throat whilst she was crying and it is white which means Strep throat I think? Her left ear is a lot hotter than the right as that is where the infection is worse, it is like sitting with a baby boiler!

Still continuing with the pain killers and antibiotics, have tried to cut down a bit on the pain killers but it does not work as her temp spikes and she is in a lot of pain. Doc said that pain management was the most important thing in a LO.

Soooooo, she is just having a nice bath with DH, has not had one for 3 days as too poorly but seems to be enjoying this one. Will make sure I dry her ears and get her well and truly snuggled in PJs before we come out of the bathroom.

The only problem is if her temp stays down she needs her 3 tog sleeping bag (old freezing Victorian house and her bedroom goes down to 17 at night). If her temp goes up whilst we are all sleeping then it tends to hit 40 before she cries out and then we have to strip her off. I tried keeping her in really light clothes/bag for the past few nights but now I think she is getting cold.

I have not had more than 2 hours sleep in any one stretch and no more than 5 hours total for 3 nights now..... seeing as she slept through the night from 16 weeks I have forgotten how hard it is!! I am spoiled normally I know. I know this bug is super nasty as even with other colds and bugs she always sleeps right through. She must be getting shooting pains in her ear and a really horrid dry throat as she is crying out a lot in her sleep.

I wish the antibs would kick in !!

Sorry, that was really long eh? Another thing is her tum is now upset with all the meds, even she was saying 'phewey' at her own nappy today!! At least she has some of her sense of humour in tact!

Aah, Blue, sounds just awful. Write as long a post as you like, I find putting all the gruesome details (especially when not sleeping!) down in writing sort of helps.

I would definitely keep up full doses of pain killers for a while yet - one nurse (when I was in hospital with ulcerated throat that stopped me even drinking) told me throat pain was considered one of the worst, because there are so many nerve endings there. Don't worry, as long as she's not overdosing in any 24 hr period they won't do her any harm - its not long term.

3 fish fingers is impressive (dd not eaten more than one per day for weeks now, grrr) but shame they didn't stay there! Not surprising, though, with temps like that and all the meds. Glad she's drinking, and napping, and the temp slowly coming down.

You sound as though you could do with a long sleep - I know, not likely tonight - and I do understand. Also about the bag dilemma. Maybe put her in lighter one, but with body under PJs and a light blanket over the top? She'll toss and turn if fever goes up, and blanket will come off? Tough one...

Good luck tonight, thinking of you xx

I am sorry you're DD isn't on the mend yet. Can you put her in bed between you and your DH? She would then be warmer from your body heat and not need the thick sleeping bags. Have lots of towels around in case she starts to vomit or her nappy leaks in the night.

We are in the US, the doctors here swabbed the back of the DTD's throats to check for strep. They were given Augmentin in suspension and an anti-nausea medicine, they are 6 years old though.

Elibean - I know what you mean about writing stuff down. MNers are always lovely ladies and I have had such good advice and support.

I was going to maybe miss waking her now to give nurofen but she is pretty restless and I take on board what you say about the throat pain. My goodness, how horrible for you.

Funny with the fishfingers, she has never had them before and now that is all she will eat!

I have compromised on the bag and not put trousers on her but used a 3 tog, going to go now and take temps etc. Good idea about the bag but she is like a human dynamo, she is all over the place all night long, hence the need for a bag but it is a good idea.

Thanks hun, hope your DD is better soon too.

Madam - DD has never slept with us and would most likely wake up and start playing no matter how poorly she is but thank you for your advise, I do like to look at all option and ideas.

DD is just 20 months but I am going back to the docs on Monday for sure. She us allergic to penacillin so Aumentin is about I am afraid, that is half the problem, she is on such a broad spectrum antib it never does much good.

Many thanks guys, will let you know tomorrow how it is going. Off to get some sleep now.

Did I mention my throat feels like a cheese grater? No? Hey ho, onto the nurofen for me to then.

Poor Blue, hope throat better tomorrow and 'only' a cold. I find Paracetamol better for throats than Nurofen, but everyone seems to respond differently

Hope dd has a less restless night, you too.

Elibean - no better I am afraid. If someone asked me if DD was any better tonight than on the first really bad night (Xmas night) I would honestly have to say no.

She is still carrying a temp of around 38.5 which is a lot better than 40 but it is obviously making her feel like road kill. She seems to be displaying flu like symptoms, sore skin etc but it fully up to date with all her immunisations.

This is a really nasty bugly, would not wish it on my worst enemy.

Thanks for being there Elibean!