Baby on her third day of sleep?

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First time mum so forgive me if I’m being over dramatic!

Baby is 11 months old and on 23rd Dec was sick after her tea but we assumed food went down the wrong way as that’s how it sounded. 6am on Christmas Eve she woke up on her back bringing up bile I assume. She slept the whole of Christmas Eve, we didn’t see her for more than an hour and then all night again. Christmas Day was the same, she had to be woke and as soon as you do wake her she falls back to sleep. She’s difficult to wake and her eyes just roll back to sleep.

Last night (Christmas Day) she vomited again baring it mind it had been 38 hours since the last vomit and the time before that was 13 hours so I know it’s not noro etc.

After she was sick last night she went to bed and slept for 14 hours, again we had to wake her this morning. She drank 2oz of milk and fell asleep sat up and went back down for another 2.5 hours before we woke her for Calpol. She had Calpol, vomited and went back to sleep. She’s been asleep since. We can’t wake her, she opens her eyes for a split second before rolling them back to sleep.

She hasn’t eaten since the 23rd which I’m not overly concerned about because I know she won’t starve and will eat when she’s hungry. She also hasn’t had any milk bar the 2oz today which again, not overly concerned about as fluids is most important and she’s sipping water when we wake her for it.

I guess my main concern is the sleep? I know it’s a red flag when baby is difficult to wake and it’s not even as if she’s sleeping all day then up at night. She is literally sleeping all day and all night for now the third day straight. She’s been awake for no longer than an hour today.

Is it just a case of letting her keep sleeping and sleeping or does she need to be seen?

I’m reluctant that I’m just being an overly paranoid first time mum. Like I said food and milk isn’t my concern as she’ll eat when she’s ready it’s just the sleep.

Bless her little heart. It's so worrying when they are so little , and are not themselves. You did the right thing taking her to the hospital, always trust your instinct OP!. I really hope she starts to feel better soon and you all manage some rest.

Please take your baby to Alder Hey, she is unwell and not properly responding after a significant amount of time.

Alder Hey will leave no stone unturned and give you an answer to what is making your daughter unwell.

DEMAND full bloods and a chest x-ray. Scream if you have to so that they move quickly. Time is of the essence here. God bless you and your beautiful baby girl.

OP- why are you giving her Calpol?

Oh gosh I hope she's okay bless her

OP, our DD nearly died after being misdiagnosed and sent home from from a local hispital many years ago.
In desperation we drove her to Alder Hey who were fantastic and admitted her to ICU.
She had the cold sore virus and they told us it would have killed her if left for another 24 hours. Alder Hey knew what was up straight away. They are paeds specialists. Please take her there.

it sounds like the second doctor did a thorough examination and it's reassuring that she woke up this time, looking after these little babies is so stressful and it's so hard to know what to do. I hope she recovers today x

She could have a touch of flu OP, but not enough for it to be obvious especially if shes had the nasal vaccine? My 7 yo had what I thought was norovirus starting Saturday eve - 2 days of vomiting followed by a day of diarrhoea and 5 days on she's still got no appetite and is very sleepy falling asleep on sofa in car etc. I went down with bad flu 14 days ago but DD had the nasal flu vaccine so I'm now thinking she's had that but not as bad...

just read this thread and while I have nothing useful or practical to contribute I just wanted to say that I hope your sweet baby is soon on the road to recovery. You are an incredible mum and I am thinking of you

Hoping you've all managed to get some rest and glad she was a bit perkier for the second doctor x

Has she had a flu vaccine op? I can't remember what age they start the nasal spray. Because there's SO MANY people ill or been ill with flu right now. If she has had a vaccine I'd put my money on it her having a mild case of it. If not, then I think she'd be more ill with flu... But I'm obviously not a Dr and I'm only going on my own experience over the last weeks.
Either way, you've done exactly the right thing and I hope she's better today and that you've had some rest. Maybe contact your GP today for some reassurance before the weekend x

I hope she is perking up this morning. If not I would definitely take her to Alder Hey.

Alder Hey is about 60 miles and over an hours drive from where the OP lives

She has already said that the Countess of Chester is much nearer

You’ve done brilliantly so far. The only thing I’d add is to try and keep her with you. Don’t just leave her in her bedroom and check on her after hours have passed. Can you set up a bassinet in a family area so she’s with you and if anything happens you can react immediately? I’m a real advocate for skin to skin and hearing the mother. I think it keeps them with us.

Hopefully that she was more awake when examined this time is a good sign.

What a worry for you.

I'm surprised your family were so laid back about it (sorry, can't think of a better term!)

You are younger than both of my two (oldest nearly 30) & back then this would have been a straight to the Dr/A&E scenario which hasn't changed!

I have found some doctors quite dismissive. I have found if I ask them to write that they want to send us home and why in the notes while I am there, they tend to have another think.

Have they ruled out sepsis?

I must be near you, was reading your replies thinking it sounds as bad as the GC then find out it is the GC!
They are abysmal and you really need to stand your ground and push with them which is so hard to do when you're exhausted, worried and been waiting for so long.
Thinking of you x

Don’t water down the juice, she needs calories especially if she’s not taking much milk!

My dd was admitted to hospital at around 18mths as she was the same, very lethargic, couldn't wake up. GP thought it was sepsis so admitted her, thankfully it wasn't, it was an upper respiratory infection but they put her on IV antibiotics to get them in her quicker and she made a full recovery.

Re the juice, I was the same, DD only ever had milk and water to drink! I was also told by the nurses she needed the sugar to build her electrolytes up (hope I've said that right!) when poorly. She does have it now when poorly.

Hope everything is ok OP

Hope she’s doing ok op. I wouldn’t be happy with the first or 2nd drs response to be honest - your baby has been practically unconscious for 3 days. I’d be asking them why they were so sure it wasn’t something like sepsis.

Agree with all these comments...hope she is significantly better today or you have gone back to a&e .

I don't want to scare you but I have only had that level of fatigue twice.

Once from flu (which usually developed a cough though) & the other time when I had sepsis (and then septic shock because my mam thought she would let me 'sleep it off') caused by pneumonia and nearly died, the sepsis came with vomiting bile and not being able to move to clear it (dangerous in itself and its a miracle I didn't choke before being discovered).

Sepsis is also dangerous because you often have an upswing where you miraculously get better for a day or two and seem 'over it' before completely crashing (the critical point).

I'm normally a 'its probably not that bad' person but I think you should really go to A&E in this case.

I would take her to Alder Hey. I know you’re all exhausted and you’ve already sought help twice, but that level of lethargy isn’t right and I would want bloods to be run for infection markets and a convincing explanation of what is causing it. Plus, I’d always rather stay on the ward for extra monitoring / an extra pair of eyes on her and to try to get a senior registrar / consultant view. Hope she’s doing better xx

Also, do not worry about looking like you’re being over anxious / a burden. It’s their job to assess poorly babies and children and they’d much rather check her over and send you home than have to deal with a critical emergency or miss something (as would you!)

I hope your DD is improving. Agree with the others - you've done so well, but if no improvement then back again and ensure your concerns are noted. Ask about infections, sepsis, etc. Ask them to rule all those things out with tests, explain that your aware that little ones can 'go downhill' fast. If you're given the option I'd keep her in hospital - that way they can react quickly to any changes.

Hello everyone, OP partner here and dad to the little one just giving an update for you all 😁

mum is currently sleeping at the moment letting her joints rest. Baby has been much better with me this morning, she woke around 11 and stayed up for 1.5hrs! In that time she’s had plenty of her sugary drink as recommended and shown interest in my breakfast so had some herself - the first time since the 23rd she’s shown any interest whatsoever in food!

she’s back to sleep now for a nap but I will be waking her after a short while to see how she is and go again with the sugary drink.

im sure OP will update you all further just thought I’d make an account and add what I can. Also thank you to everyone in this thread you were our guiding hand at whatever ridiculous time we found ourselves at last night, I’m glad we went back and demanded a second opinion, sometimes a little reassurance is all you need, better to be safe than sorry! 😊