Hip thrusting at night keeps toddler up

[tudorqueenie]

I have a 2.5 year old daughter whose sleep has been heavily affected by what I’d describe as itchiness in her nappy. She does this hip thrusting motion at night (it does sometimes happen during the day but it is mostly at night), and it wakes her up and she is very uncomfortable. She says it is itchy and it burns. I have tried all the creams, I have tried one prescription one for fungal infections. I have tried six different types of nappy including a cloth one, in case it had to do with the material. It did not make a difference. We have tried laxatives as suggested by the pharmacist, it did not help. She has no redness and she does not actually itch anything with her hands. The only thing I can imagine is that maybe her pee is burning her at night and she feels it more because her pee is more concentrated then. my issue is that I cannot seem to be able to collect her wee - she will not pee in a potty even if I wait for two hours. I do not want to force her. I tried squishing the cloth nappy to see if the pee comes out but it does not. Any tips on doing this? Or any tips on what this could be? Thank you so much in advance!

You can order worming treatment online.
I would do it to at least rule it out.

I’m fed up of being refused otc remedies for anything and everything. I think caution with selling pharmacy products has gone too far. I’m 54 and have recently been refused otc wart treatment and antihistamines in my local Boots due to ‘people over 50 have to see their gp before we can sell them any otc medicine now as we need to make sure there isn’t something more serious going on’.

ffs.

Which is all to say, I agree with the pp who said tell a different pharmacist you need Ovex liquid (don’t explain, just say your kid has round worms) or order it online, OP - it sounds textbook to me and to me would be preferable to going on and on with antibiotics.

I also think @TooLateForRoses must be an actual child (not even a teen, I’d say) going by the posts. There can be no other explanation.

I genuinely didn't think it was a common thing for kids to have worms. It thought it was a rare thing you got from eating dodgy meat

That's tape worms

Threadworms are very common. They are not the same as tapeworms. Do a bit of googling …

Does your LO have dark circles under the eyes - it is another sign of worms.

You might not have tablets for a younger child - they do a kind of paste.

Certainly worth trying

Op you don’t have to give the child tablets. There is a liquid Ovex which tastes like banana. I’ve had to dose my two in the last week and the only questions they ask is whether they are under 2 or if you are breastfeeding. It’s not a harmful medicine, it somehow works by inhibiting the worms nutrition (glucose? Can’t quite remember) intake so they die. I think it is worth a shot.

Sounds like worms. Do you have pets?

Threadworm larvae are everywhere, especially in soil. Children grub about then put their fingers in their mouths ... larvae are ingested and hatch out ... and wiggle out via bum. They are like tiny threads about 1/4 inch long. Having pets is not relevant.

I too think they are hideous.
We haven't ever had them personally , but they appear to be very common - I really find the thought of worms disturbing

A dog we adopted had them, and that was shuddersome...they came marching out of her backside, despite RSPCA saying she had recently been wormed.

Worms are just grim. Lice and ticks are horrible too, but I can deal with those much more easily.

Just go to the pharmacy and ask them for liquid ovex. You don’t need to say who it is for.
Worms were also my first thought and the treatment is totally harmless so worth just giving it a go surely.

In case it doesn’t resolve after treatment for worms it could be this -

https://www.babysleepsite.com/toddlers/toddlers-weird-self-soothing-behaviors-explained/

They seem to be massively prevalent nowadays {Son nor I never had them, and nor did classmates- lice, absoulutely yes, but worms? No.

Pets had them, horses had them, {or were routinely treated for them} but not humans.
Wonder why they are so prolific nowadays?

Honestly I would just get some worm meds & try it.
I understand that people think it's disgusting I felt the same when my Dd had them but it's common & easy to sort.
Apparently in some countries they take worm meds regularly as a precaution.
My DD had them once & hasn't had them since. I think she got them from school. Kids can be grim!

Go to a different chemist. Get a bottle of ovex for her and the tablets for the rest of you and just treat you all.

I used to worm mine regularly, not as often as the cat but every few months.

So much fucking about when it should be the first go to. Don't bother with the sticky tape or the head torch at night. Just treat her

They’re as common as head lice. People just do t admit to having them though.

Definitely sounds like works. Your pharmacist is rubbish. Of course you can give a treatment. It doesn’t do any harm.

Vaginitis?

All my DDs had it, my oldest then youngest were worse. My 6yo still struggles occasionally but she also has eczema so sometimes we struggle to know what’s the issue.

It got worse after they started school, sitting on wet toilet seats, other kids wee on them. But particularly bad at night, especially when we started pull ups. All brands irritated all 3 girls. My youngest definitely the worse.

Lots of washing and bathing. We double wash all our towels and face clothes due to eczema anyway but keep a specific pile of clean facecloths for vagina washing. We would sometimes have to use a cool damp cloth (very gently) multiple times a night. Now it’s only occasionally as our youngest is very good at drying herself properly and also washes herself if she dribbles as she knows the irritation is caused by dry wee. We just dab using a cloth soaked in cold water, sometimes hold it to sooth the area. Make sure there is no soap that includes washing powder or softener. The vagina face clothes are only ever water washed to ensue no chemicals. Sudocrem is the only cream we ever used.

Sounds just like when mine have had worms. Tried all sorts of medicated creams and antibiotics with my eldest before we tried worming tablets. Now at the first sign of itching it’s straight to the pharmacy (down the motorway to the nearest late night one if possible to get it treated asap) and another dose two weeks later for everyone in the house. They can have the tablets over 2 yo as well.

also shower her first thing in the morning for the next few days to remove any eggs that may be there too

I had them several times as a child in the 80s - I was a terrible nail biter which probably didn't help. Medicine for threadworms was easily available back then so I'm sure it was a widespread problem. At least now children are spared the torture of Pripsen.

Thank you so much for all your comments, I really appreciate it! Just to answer a few questions: we do not have any pets and my daughter doesnt go to nursery. I will go back to the pharmacy today and ask. I have checked in the dark with a lamp and could not see anything. It is reassuring to know that Ovex doesnt do any harm so will go to another pharmacy and ask

Ah if she doesn’t go to nursery then where would she have caught them from? Unless you or your husband have them and don’t notice. Maybe it’s worth treating you all as a one off.

I still can’t eat raspberry flavoured chocolate 😫

Ugh pripsen. The trauma! The crying! The disgusting 'raspberry' flavour!