Hip thrusting at night keeps toddler up

[tudorqueenie]

I have a 2.5 year old daughter whose sleep has been heavily affected by what I’d describe as itchiness in her nappy. She does this hip thrusting motion at night (it does sometimes happen during the day but it is mostly at night), and it wakes her up and she is very uncomfortable. She says it is itchy and it burns. I have tried all the creams, I have tried one prescription one for fungal infections. I have tried six different types of nappy including a cloth one, in case it had to do with the material. It did not make a difference. We have tried laxatives as suggested by the pharmacist, it did not help. She has no redness and she does not actually itch anything with her hands. The only thing I can imagine is that maybe her pee is burning her at night and she feels it more because her pee is more concentrated then. my issue is that I cannot seem to be able to collect her wee - she will not pee in a potty even if I wait for two hours. I do not want to force her. I tried squishing the cloth nappy to see if the pee comes out but it does not. Any tips on doing this? Or any tips on what this could be? Thank you so much in advance!

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Thread worms not tapeworms…,

Very common, very easily spread, very easily dealt with. No more common now than when I was a child (in fact I’d say they were more common when I was a child). My DC even caught them when they were at key worker school during covid with full on hand sanitising and social distancing.

I do hate the little buggers though.

Is probably a sweaty nappy- it's been humid where I am and the thought of being wrapped up in a padded anything makes me feel shuddery. Time to air out her bottom and perhaps toilet train her?

@TooLateForRoses worms are a perfectly normal thing to happen to children. And dogs/cats/horses/sheep/cows etc.... quick treatment and they will be sorted.

Thanks everyone. I did ask the pharmacist about worms and I asked for the tablets but they don’t recommend taking them if that’s not what she has. I can see absolutely nothing around the anus either.

I would also treat for worms. You can tell within two days of taking it if the issue is worms or not. My 6 year old used to say his bum is itchy but a 3 year old may not be able to say that. We never saw any worms but felt the effects as the itchy bum stopped.

You seem very reluctant to treat for worms but it could solve the problem almost immediately. If it is worms, it would be cleared up within two days. If it's not, one dose of Ovex is not harmful and you can continue to research what else it could be.

My DD was two when she first had worms and I had no idea why she was up crying every night for days. It was the fact that it was only night time which made me think of worms even though there was no other sign of them. It was cured literally overnight.

I am not reluctant at all! The pharmay said they wouldnt give the medications to us because it didnt look like worms. Would be more than happy to try it otherwise :)

Go to a different one or wait until different staff are on and go in and say your daughter has worms. I was barely questioned or not questioned at all whenever I’ve got it. If you go in and say you don’t think it’s worms they are never going to give it to you.

You don't have to see the pharmacist or explain anything. Just go to the pharmacy counter and ask the normal assistant for Ovex.

Just go to the pharmacy and request worm treatment for the whole family. They can't say no - its an OTC medicine!

Wow have you not had children!

Or you can order online from Superdrug.

I once had a pharmacist refuse to give me worm medicine because I said I was breastfeeding and they wouldn't sell it to someone who was breastfeeding for safety reasons. Even after I said that the 3 year old child who had worms was the child I was breastfeeding they still wouldn't sell it to me. I just went to another chemist and said no to the breastfeeding question and within a day the worm situation was sorted. You really need to try the medicine, your daughter must be so uncomfortable if it is worms.

If you want to look for worms you need to go in at night, in the dark, and quickly uncover the bottom while turning the torch on. The worms will wriggle away when they see the light 🤢

Easily treated though and very common - although I never knew of other kids having them when I was young (the 70s), my own kids and their classmates had them several times.

There's an ovex liquid you can give to smaller children, instead of tablets.

I've lost count of the number of times I've had to do this! Pharmacists don't seem to understand breastfeeding isn't just for tiny newborns. If the medicine is literally suitable for my child to swallow outright, why can't I take it while breastfeeding her?! Bonkers.

Even my dh, who is lawful-good inclined, has gone back and pretended otc medication is for him so they'd give it to him, so we wouldn't fall foul of the breastfeeding rules.

Op, at my local pharmacy, ovex is just on the shelf. You just grab it, no need for discussion.

Get the liquid stuff for your dd and the tablets for you and dh etc as applicable. Treat everyone in the house

I'm going to have to aren't I.. I'm scared to find out that I had worms.

I have a child..I'm now terrified they'll get worms. Can I get this ovex stuff preemptively?

OH IM SO SCARED. If my child has worms and I don't know about it and don't treat it do they eventually go away or are they going to always have worms

Definitely sounds like worms - I’m a GP and it’s a classic description (also not really covered in medical training tbh so I probably have some pretty crap advice before I had kids myself!).

You really must live an overly sheltered life. Or you are in fact an actual child posting on MN.

Sounds like worms. My oldest has had them before and you treat the whole family even the ones with no symptoms. My youngest had the treatment and no issues at all, the pharmacists didn’t ask a thing, just handed over the bottle. I would try a different chemist.

It's most likely worms - mine were always getting them. Often you could not see them, but the problems stopped after treatment. You can get this online from (amongst others) Superdrug: https://www.superdrug.com/health/stomach-bowel/threadworm-treatments/c/pt_health_threadworm_treatments?gclsrc=aw.ds&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw7NmzBhBLEiwAxrHQ-fXIoMYsRYzXZBmUWO2DRrYiwsKK2eYLTXtmEhVOpP5bGVO_N_P_pBoCZykQAvD_BwE

@TooLateForRoses Hiw can you have a child and not know about worms? Sorry to say but you've most definitely had them yourself