Anyone given their baby separate vaccines?

[CerealB0wl]

As a baby in the mid 90s I was given 5 vaccines at 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 16 weeks. These were for diphtheria, pertussis, polio, tetanus and HIB. My newborn is due EIGHT at the same time! I'm not keen on this relatively new 6 in 1 vaccine. What happened to the 5 in 1 and why is hep b included for newborns? I'm also not keen on the side effects of the men b vaccine. I had a dangerous allergic reaction to a vaccine as a teen so I'm worried about this for my baby too.

Has anyone successfully asked for vaccines to be separated or decline certain jabs without declining all of them? I still want certain vaccines so I don't want to completely decline.

P. S. Please don't make this a pro vaccine/anti vaccine debate. I just want to hear others' experiences. Thank you.

well that's categorically untrue, a new product can't be licensed without safety studies.

I had Chicken Pox when I was 2 years old and I'm fine. No long term damage. Obviously I was a very upset toddler though. I haven't noticed any 'anti vax' people in this thread. It seems that everyone has given their children at least some vaccines. You're not anti vax if you want to space out vaccines or forgo some but opt in for others.

I spoke to a practice nurse and she was reluctant to let me space out the vaccines. Seems you have to follow the schedule or have none at all! If they want parents to vaccinate their children then they should allow people to choose! I don't live in London so the BCG vaccine isn't widely available here despite immigration. I was vaccinated against TB as a baby because my grandma was born and raised in a different continent.

Chickenpox is completely different to measles in terms of complication risk.

If you want to turn down any evidence based opportunity to protect your kids, you're anti vax. Yes, not as bad as those who don't want any, but you're choosing to leave your kids unprotected for longer, which is poor parenting.

Presumably you've seen this quote by Roald Dahl about the death of his daughter from measles? We still can't treat measles encephalitis.....

Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.
“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.
“I feel all sleepy, ” she said.
In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

I had measles as a child, we all did. We had measles parties (and chicken pox) to catch it and "get it over and done with".

No-one cared about measles, it was a normal part of childhood.

I had measles, poorly but got over it. What our generation was blissfully unaware of as kids were the ones who died or who were damaged and shunted off to 'special schools' - disabled kids weren't typically in mainstream schools back then. Via church I knew a girl who'd had polio and another damaged by German measles

I was aiming to say

“German measles and chicken pox are generally not bad if you get them early.”

But clearly failed.

If you can’t see any anti-vaxxers on this thread you’re not reading very carefully. I think one called Pharma companies criminals at one point

Tho other thing about spacing out the vaccines is when they’re given “off schedule” they can become unlicensed, which puts the nurse in a potentially tricky position. We give vaccinations by something called a PGD (patient group directive) which sets out how and why we can give vaccines, and under which conditions and to who.

Parents selecting their own schedule contravenes the PGDs which means the nurse is potentially giving them against protocol. Some will take that professional risk, some won’t.

Also some vaccines are to be given within a certain timeframe, at certain intervals, or by a certain age.

If you're against vaccines then you wouldn't vaccinate your children at all. Also I had the MMR jab in the 90s so I don't understand why you're quoting Roald Dahl? You're a bit strange. Anyway, thanks to the people who've shared their experiences. I will try to speak to the nurse again.

When we chose a different schedule we spoke with the practice nurse who said it was fine but made us a gp appt and the gp was fine with it too they said they’d always rather children were vaccinated to a different schedule rather than not at all.

The only one we were told had an age limit was the rotavirus but they agreed with us that we were declining that one only (severe bowel and allergy issues)

Of course, we always prefer some vaccines to none. but we mostly prefer kids not being left susceptible to measles for 2y longer than they have to be. We'll be openly polite and respectful of your choices, for fear that if we don't you won't vaccinate at all, and privately despair.

This is totally not understanding why and how vaccinations are given. The BCG is an old formula vaccine and not as effective as many others.

TB is nasty but it IS TREATABLE, antibiotics work. Yes there are resistant strains but thre are drugs that can cure it. Obviously it is better to not get it.

Polio is different, it is a virus. It was also detected in London in 2022 (probably due to an arrival having had the oral polio vaccine). Polio is present in Nigeria, Afghanistan and Nigeria. There has been immigration from all three countries as well as the military returning from Afghanistan.

There are many people around still baring the scara of polio, Mary Berry, Ade Adepitan, Mia Farrow spent months in hospital as a child, she was kept alive by an iron lung.

I believe, OP, you can have individual vaccines at this clinic if you are in London. https://babyjabs.co.uk/

Yes they are really good here we got the men b there before it was part of the nhs schedule

They’re making a pretty penny aren’t they.

CrunchyPeanutButtermum incorrect advice again. There's also an age limit on the Men B and pneumonia vaccine (on the NHS).

I felt very strange after the hep b vaccine, took months to feel normal again, declined the rest. You can't question any vaccines though or its straight in the loon bin for you. Makes you wonder.

Hep B? Unusual to have that as an adult?

We had it in 2014 or 2015 I think , it hadn’t been added to the nhs schedule for babies at that point and we wanted them protected

I had that attitude to chicken pox. My 6yo sailed through it, my 3yo was sick, got simultaneous invasive strep a infection which turned to sepsis, spent a week in intensive care on a ventilator, had to be resuscitated during an op to drain his lung, was at risk of brain damage from that. Otherwise entirely healthy child, a whisker away from death due to chicken pox.

If I had my time again, I'd have the chicken pox vaccination.

If he'd been sick like that because of something like measles where I'd refused vaccination because of some silly foible, I'd never have forgiven myself.

The reality of refusing vaccination is also more likely to impact vulnerable kids - your child might be ok with the illness, another child with health problems who can't be vaccinated might catch it from your child and die or have lifelong impacts.

Wonder what? What exactly is this mass conspiracy?

Feeling strange for a month is better than being killed or maimed by a disease.

Pharma can make plenty of money from other sources, I don't think vaccination is some big money making scam or that they're somehow injecting you with something harmful for the fun of it. If nothing else, can you imagine the lawsuits? Doctors go into medicine to make people better. You sound like a paranoid loon.

Ultimately yes, x number of children have adverse reactions to vaccination and a much smaller number might die or be permanently impaired. Directly as a result of the choice to vaccinate.

That's not hidden, it's just that the scientists have worked out that overall, fewer children will have serious impacts or die when vaccinated compared to letting the disease run through the population. It's a roulette wheel either way but the harm is less with vaccination.

@TheLongGloriesOfTheWinterMoon

"Go on. Have a wild guess."

8 seperate appointments, 8 separate injections. Yes that makes sense. not.

Everyone I know has had chicken pox and no one has had any long lasting damage. Everyone was just spotty, itchy and teary. I was 2 years old and no damage. Really sad that your son was ill but that's the reality of all infections and medicines. People react in different ways. I'm not sure why you think I'm refusing vaccination? My daughter can have the ones I had. I had the 4 in 1 and MMR in the late 90s. Had others as a teen too.

With the chicken pox vaccination it’s not just about preventing very bad disease.

Both me and my brother had it quite young. I was fine but my brother got really poorly. That alone would be bad, but at the time we both had to have 2 weeks off school. That was 4 weeks of childcare my parents had to fine. Add to that my grandma died during that period.

I vaccinated my kids but I know many who haven’t and it seems chicken pox seems to know the very worst time to make parents have to accommodate the exclusion periods. Even worse when there’s more than one child and clearly both get it.

It might be really selfish to say that vaccination can help parents out more than the kids.

We actually did it as school were being v v threatening about absence from illness and we thought it was one thing we could prevent as they hadn’t had it at that point so we vaccinated for it as we were being had a go at constantly for viral illness related absence we had no control over

Will your daughter also have the same car seat as you (despite newer ones being safer) and drive around in the same car (despite newer ones being safer). It’s a strange approach to take as your child isn’t you and therefore you have no idea they will react in the same way.