Anyone given their baby separate vaccines?

[CerealB0wl]

As a baby in the mid 90s I was given 5 vaccines at 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 16 weeks. These were for diphtheria, pertussis, polio, tetanus and HIB. My newborn is due EIGHT at the same time! I'm not keen on this relatively new 6 in 1 vaccine. What happened to the 5 in 1 and why is hep b included for newborns? I'm also not keen on the side effects of the men b vaccine. I had a dangerous allergic reaction to a vaccine as a teen so I'm worried about this for my baby too.

Has anyone successfully asked for vaccines to be separated or decline certain jabs without declining all of them? I still want certain vaccines so I don't want to completely decline.

P. S. Please don't make this a pro vaccine/anti vaccine debate. I just want to hear others' experiences. Thank you.

So you will send your child to school, the time when they are most likely to come into contact with loads of new germs, not fully vaccinated? That makes absolutely no sense on any level.

As you can see I said age 4-5 so just before they start school. Pre school boosters can be given from 3y4m we just waited / are waiting till just before reception

What are you hoping to take from the experience of parents who spaced out their children’s vaccines?

Youll get some anecdotes which won’t help you at all.

As many others have said, for vaccines you need big data, not what the person next door said.

plus, the concept of “too much all at once” is scientifically nonsensical. A quick google of credible scientific sources would tell you that.

Your tiny, vulnerable child is exposed to thousands of pathogens every day, including the real nasties like polio and measles, E. coli, streptococcus, the common cold, meningitis, the list is endless.

It’s a daily assault, so vaccination is like covering off some of the worst possibilities for very minimal risk.

Look up relative risk from common risks. You should be several thousand times more worried about taking your kid in a car, than getting them vaccinated.

nothing useful will come from the wider debates here about vaccines/ not vaccines.

say what you want to achieve from hearing from people who spaced out vaccines. Is it practical information on where to get them singly? Reassurance it’s ok to do so? Reassurance that injecting your baby is the right thing to do? Do you need a defence against a partner who thinks jabs are the devil, or a religious community that advises against?

where are you coming at this from? What’s troubling you?

this isn’t generally an idle question, so tell us what your specific worries are.

the concept of “too much all at once” is scientifically nonsensical

Is it?

I would have thought the idea of unjecting a baby with loads of stuff all in one go was extremely risky. That's just common sense.

Your tiny, vulnerable child is exposed to thousands of pathogens every day, including the real nasties like polio and measles, E. coli, streptococcus, the common cold, meningitis, the list is endless.

I was exposed to all those things when I was a baby and I was fine, and have been healthy all my (long) life.

You don't get good health from a needle.

Also, as regards this:

the concept of “too much all at once” is scientifically nonsensical

When MMR was introduced there were no safety studies done. None.

It was ASSUMED that because the separate vaccinations had been safe that combining them would also be safe.

ASSUMED.

That's how much they care about your babies. NO SAFETY STUDIES. NONE.

@EmilyBrontesGhost but that is the point. Common sense understanding makes for bad decisions when it comes to risks that can only be properly understood at population level.

Do you take your kids in a car? Do you know how risky that is, per journey? If not, give your head a wobble and really, truly educate yourself on risk. It’s easy to do.

But it could be too much at once? Some vaccines (men b particularly) are more likely to cause a fever so if a child gets a fever form that plus another vaccine they could be more likely to have a febrile convulsion for example, but if they are given separately it reduces that risk plus if there’s a reaction you know which one if you’ve only done one at a time

@EmilyBrontesGhost oh ok. I missed the subtext. You do you, boo, and just think, school is back on Wednesday!

That's not how it works. Yes some babies get a fever after vaccination but it isn't worse because there is more than one active ingredient.

If you put a mug of water in a kettle and switch it on it boils at 100 C (at sea level) boiling a full kettle doesn't make it boil at 120 C.

As for all this, "it's too much" the active ingredients are the minimum to cause the imune system to react.

Vaccines are not just invented and then stay the same for decades (with the exception of BCG) they are a work in progress.

It was definitely too much for my older dc. My younger ones have coped and not needed hospital after any of theirs so far due to a modified schedule. Some people do react to things / certain combinations. As a parent I could tell what was affecting them but I also know the importance of vaccinations so with the gps advice and agreement this is what we did to get them protected against diseases but also to avoid any side effects of the vaccines / the vaccine schedule (which is more to do with saving the nhs time and appts than anything else - the gp said as much)

You could ask for them spaced out but GP won’t have them available separately. If you’re concerned speak to them rather than asking a lot of (seemingly ill informed) strangers

No, she's comparing car journeys with injecting babies with tested, safe vaccines with known, published and verifiable ingredients, supplied by companies with government oversight. It's a bad comparison really, car journeys are much more dangerous.

While you've been living your long life vaccine free, millions have died from the childhood illnesses you were lucky enough to survive or not catch at all. It's a shame you didn't take a bit of that long time to learn how immune systems work, then you wouldn't have assumed, wrongly, that you know what you're taking about and paraded your ignorance around in public.

@EmilyBrontesGhost Although, looking at your user name maybe I should assume you're trolling, Emily Bronte died of TB at the age of 30, a disease that has now been eliminated in this country thanks to vaccines!

Again, can people stop derailing this thread? Pretty much everyone in this thread has vaccinated their children but aren't keen on having so many at once. There's a few people in this thread who have turned nasty and calling women out for being 'awful mothers' for not following the NHS' vaccine schedule like it's Gospel. You do realise that this is more for cost and time saving reasons?

People react differently to medicines so obviously they react differently to vaccines too. I had a dangerous reaction to one combined vaccine and I'm sure others have to. Obviously many people don't have the same reaction and are fine. We're all different.

I have my babies MMR separately, I just said out right I want them separately or not at all.

Actually, TB is on the rise in this country, likely due to increased immigration. Unfortunately the NHS doesn't vaccinate children against TB even though this disease is more prevalent than other diseases they do vaccinate against. It would make more sense to vaccinate against TB than polio seeing as there hasn't been a case in the UK for around 30 years.

They do in some areas my dc all had their bcgs at 2 days old

All vaccines have a leaflet that lists the side effects. So people who keep saying it’s safe and effective should look at that that the manufacturers say themselves sometimes it’s not safe. Simple as that, like all the meds. Vaccination is a medical intervention which carries risks. Weigh up the risks of vaccinating/non vaccinating and make an informed decision: but not from Youtube, TikTok. Read multiple studies, ask your doctor questions. Separating vaccines won’t harm their effectiveness. Many people do that and their kids are not catching all the disease. I only took MMR at 26 when trying to get pregnant because it’s dangerous if you catch measles or rubella when pregnant. My son when he’s due his MMR would only get mumps vaccine because mumps can affect boys more. Also I only had 9 jabs through my whole life, my DH had 13 and the whole generation. Now our kids have around 24 jabs before they turn 1, in USA it’s even more. Why?

Because humans are disease ridden and science moves on?

You're not vaccinating your kid against measles?

gamerchick, science will continue moving on does it mean that in decade we will be giving 54 jabs before 1? And more and more as the science moves on. I would say the pharmaceutical profit grows with each new jab put on a vaccination schedule. They will continue producing new vaccines as they are a very interested party - more jabs on childhood vaccination schedule more profit for them. Many diseases were irradiated and decreased in occurrences also because of improvement and better understanding of infection control, hygiene and running clean water in each household. As much as we would like to give all the credit to the miracle of vaccines , we should also give such credit to technological improvements and plumbing.
Regarding whether I will vaccinate my DS against measles I didn’t decide yet, definitely against mumps. I have still 7 months before first MMR jab.

OP. People with years of academic training and medical experience have decided the vaccine is safe. Why would your trust your judgement over theirs?

I mean there are medicines like thalidomide that were promoted as being safe for pregnant women to take. They were produced and promoted by people who had years of academic and medical experience. Look at how those babies turned out. If you look online you'll find a long list of medicines that have been withdrawn from the market as they're no longer deemed safe despite being originally promoted as being safe.

If you look near the end of the leaflets that come with vaccines then you'll see that there are side effects that are more than just having a sore arm or leg. If my dd has a reaction then I want to know which vaccine caused it, especially as I've had a bad reaction to a vaccine (but not all vaccines).

You’re really showing your ignorance dear. Why do you think that the number of cases of polio is on the decline? From over 50000 in 1980 to 649 in 2021.