Anyone given their baby separate vaccines?

[CerealB0wl]

As a baby in the mid 90s I was given 5 vaccines at 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 16 weeks. These were for diphtheria, pertussis, polio, tetanus and HIB. My newborn is due EIGHT at the same time! I'm not keen on this relatively new 6 in 1 vaccine. What happened to the 5 in 1 and why is hep b included for newborns? I'm also not keen on the side effects of the men b vaccine. I had a dangerous allergic reaction to a vaccine as a teen so I'm worried about this for my baby too.

Has anyone successfully asked for vaccines to be separated or decline certain jabs without declining all of them? I still want certain vaccines so I don't want to completely decline.

P. S. Please don't make this a pro vaccine/anti vaccine debate. I just want to hear others' experiences. Thank you.

The problem is, we're so privileged these days that we have never seen the damage these diseases do. If you knew, you wouldn't be humming and harring about a measles vaccine

Maybe instead of doing your 'research' on vaccine side effects. You should look into all of these illnesses and the damage they can do. What you're posting comes across as massively ignorant and that's scary when there are kids involved.

Whilst I understand your concern, you’re basing those concerns on things that happened up to 80+ years ago. Thalidomide was an absolute scandal. Following on from that, do you not think that medical science around vaccines is thoroughly researched now? Thalidomide was developed in the 1950’s and was never tested on pregnant women.
When looking at things like possible side effects or allergic reactions, try to weigh up the risks v the benefits. This research paper looks at precisely that. Its headline findings show that the risk of having an allergic reaction ranges between 0.65-1.45 cases per million vaccine doses. Most of the allergic reactions are self-limited local reactions such as a swollen lump at the site of injection.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35023644/#:~:text=Results%3A%20Vaccine%20related%20confirmed%20allergic,cases%20per%20million%20vaccine%20doses.

I recommend to be mindful of side effects too, kids are also involved there and trust me, if something happens, neither pharmaceutical company nor your GP would be there for you and your kid dealing with the consequences caused by a side effect. Never follow the science blindly or just trust the science. Science is an enquiry, constantly changing and it’s about questioning and testing and not just believing in it, it’s not a religion

Maybe instead of doing your 'research' on vaccine side effects...

Nobody thinks polio doesn't do harm when people contract it. It is you who is showing your ignorance here ;)

Maybe rather than having your child vaccinated, just give them a good wash???

@Soontobe60 nothing - no drugs, no vaccinations - is ever tested on pregnant women. Quite rightly too, it would be highly immoral to experiment on them.

Are you implying they should be in order to be considered safe? Would you volunteer yourself if pregnant?

Sorry @gamerchick I quoted the wrong part of your post and didn't tag you in my previous post.

Meant to also add - why are you against people researching the risks of vaccinations? You can know about both risks you know. No need to fee threatened by that.

that. Its headline findings show that the risk of having an allergic reaction ranges between 0.65-1.45 cases per million vaccine doses.

And how does that risk apply to families or individuals with a history of severe reaction @Soontobe60?

Should the OP just gamble with her child and treat them like any other, ignoring family history?

This is another reason why we separated them to identify which caused reactions

I think it’s good to ask questions , there are side effects from all medications and nobody jumps on anyone worrying about those or potential drug interactions but we can’t discuss vaccinations? Even those like me who wanted their dc vaccinated but needed an alternative schedule which was agreed by the gp get criticised ? We need to stop shutting down discussions around vaccines, being concerned and splitting vaccines doesn’t make someone an anti vaxxer !

Threatened? Odd thing to say

these diseases cannot come back in any significant way because of ignorant people who have no problems jabbing their kids multiple times to see how it goes, or seemingly have no clue that some of these illness can cause death or irreparable damage. That is scary.

Although the insinuation that all you have to do is give them a good wash did make me laugh a lot.

I have absolutely no time for this. The experts have looked at the evidence and decided benefits outweigh risks, you come along with a few webpages and decide you know better?

What that amounts to really is saying that you've decided the risks are bad enough for your child that you'll rely on herd immunity from other people taking that risk by immunising their children.

Unless there's a medical reason not to, get all vaccinations available to you that are recommended by the experts.

Why would you?

I had measles as a child, we all did. We had measles parties (and chicken pox) to catch it and "get it over and done with".

No-one cared about measles, it was a normal part of childhood.

I'm so grateful I was born at a time before Big Pharma took over everything, I've had a fantastic immune system all my (long and healthy) life because of the childhood illnesses I had.

You don't get good health from a needle.

God help your children.

There was a really interesting interview with a young man recently (I’ve tried to find it but can’t, I think it was BBC though) his parents didn’t give him MMR because of the whole autism thing.

As a young adult at university he contracted mumps, and then measles pretty much straight after. He was really ill and missed a lot of uni. Needless to say he went straight to the doctor once better and asked to be vaccinated against anything he could be.

My generation was a shoulder generation between no MMR and it becoming standard. I was given the vaccine once it became available. It meant that in my years at school not enough people got the diseases to get any natural immunity, but not enough people were vaccinated to stop it completely. At uni mumps went round like wildfire. I know lots of people including DH who caught it. The girls mostly missed 2 weeks of uni. Some missing things like deadlines, exams, leavers balls or graduation. The boys all ended up in hospital. My DH was really really sick with it.

As I’ve said before, if OP has a family history of vaccine reactions she needs to speak to her GP about her individual risk profile and what the risk of the vaccine vs risk of the actual disease is for her child.

@CerealB0wl Sorry that your thread is getting derailed - I can see that you didn’t want a debate on vaccines themselves but advice on a different vaccine schedule , this is what we did with the support of our gp. Feel free to PM of you want to chat about it without all the additional hassle !!

Soontobe60 I bet you masked and washed and sanitized your hands multiple times a day during Covid peak, or just waited for the vaccine to come out? proper hygiene prevents certain illnesses - every school kid knows it

• @gamerchick

Threatened? Odd thing to say

these diseases cannot come back in any significant way because of ignorant people who have no problems jabbing their kids multiple times to see how it goes, or seemingly have no clue that some of these illness can cause death or irreparable damage. That is scary.

Although the insinuation that all you have to do is give them a good wash did make me laugh a lot.*

You are just making stuff up. Where are you getting this idea from that people who are concerned about adverse effects from vaccines are not aware that illnesses like polio can kill you (if you're unfortunate enough to get infected)? This is just so obviously obtuse I'm not even sure if you believe what you are saying or if you see yourself as some sort of vaccine evangelist who will say anything and everything to derail any questions about vaccines.

I have never in all my life seen anyone deny that polio can be deadly. But that doesn't negate the fact that the first polio vaccine resulted in illness for hundreds of thousands of people including deaths. Both things can be true, right? An illness can be bad, but a vaccine can also carry risks. Thank goodness there were people open minded enough to look at those risks and develop a safer vaccine (too late for some kids, but better late than never!).

And the reason I say you sound threatened by people considering the risks associated with it is because you explicitly told a PP not to look at the risks. Attempting to close off information sources isn't something that people who are secure in their position usually do - although it is fairly typical of evangelical vaxxers admittedly.

Oh no I messed up the quoting...

Measles is a nasty disease. It was not something everyone expected to get and recover from easily.

German measles and chicken pox are generally bad if you get them early.

OP if you want to space out the early vaccinations you can. And as it sounds like you intend to get them all speak to your practice. Don’t look on google.

And don’t listen to the usual anti-vax suspects in this thread.

Oh if you are in London (maybe other places too) you can get the BCG too.

I said to look at the risks of the actual disease. Pretty obvious that people are just looking at the risks of vaccines.

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up polio. I don't think I've typed the word out once in this thread. Are you confusing me with someone else?

There’s also chicken pox vaccine available too we did that one privately and just asked the gp when we should fit it into our bespoke schedule and they were happy to advise and said it was a good idea to get it done

Scary person you like.

No you don’t get good health from a needle but you do get antibodies. Lots and lots of lovely antibodies that vastly reduce the chance of your baby having multiple types of meningitis, or measles encephalitis, or orchitis from mumps, or liver damage from hepatitis, or death.

Some of the posts on here are inaccurate, worrying and misinformed. I’m a senior nurse practitioner in primary care and know a fair bit about immunisations. More than my GP colleagues - I train them. I am always open to discussing schedules with worried parents, and hopefully allaying their fears and correcting misunderstanding.

Common sense is, it seems, not that common

I would have thought the idea of unjecting a baby with loads of stuff all in one go was extremely risky. That's just common sense.

it's not risky. At all. hope that helps.