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111 guy told me to give DD Ibuprofen with chickenpox wtf??

163 replies

ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:08

Cut a long story short.

DD has severe chickenpox. Has temp, needed advice so called 111. Spots started showing Wednesday 2 days ago.

Spoke to a lady, who took details said another person was gonna call me. Another lady called and said my DD needs to be seen as she requested photos so I sent them. She said someone will call me to be seen. A guy rung and this part of the convo went like this.

111 guy: Have you given Calpol
Me: yes
111 guy: what about Ibuprofen
Me: ibuprofen?
111 guy: yes
Me: you can't give that to a child with chicken pox
111 guy: erm yes you can depends on the stage
Me: I'm not giving her ibuprofen I know not to give a child it for chickenpox, it states it on the NHS website.

Imagine if this was a first time mum not knowing what was right and what isn't. I'm fuming.

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ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:09

Do I report it or am I overreacting? Please tell me I'm am.

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JustKeepSw1mming · 21/07/2023 21:10

You are over reacting
111 guy doesn't know everything. Very unlikely that ibuprofen would cause an issue

ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:11

JustKeepSw1mming · 21/07/2023 21:10

You are over reacting
111 guy doesn't know everything. Very unlikely that ibuprofen would cause an issue

He's a doctor. He should know not to. It can cause a reaction.

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Woopzies · 21/07/2023 21:12

Do you know what the "guy" was, in terms of job role?

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:12

Is it against guidance?
I dint know you couldn't give ibuprofen with chickenpox.
If they gave the wrong guidance you should report

ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:13

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:12

Is it against guidance?
I dint know you couldn't give ibuprofen with chickenpox.
If they gave the wrong guidance you should report

It's on the NHS website

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Woopzies · 21/07/2023 21:13

Just seen you've mentioned he was a doctor.

If you read it properly, you'd know that the NHS website states words to the effect of 'you should not give ibuprofen for chicken pox unless advised by a doctor'

Now, if you're certain he is a doctor - your thread is pointless.

ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:13

Woopzies · 21/07/2023 21:12

Do you know what the "guy" was, in terms of job role?

Yes a doctor, sorry I should of made it more clearer.

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Papernotplastic · 21/07/2023 21:14

The NHS page says ’Do not give ibuprofen for chickenpox unless it has been recommended by a doctor.’

He’s a doctor …

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:14

It doesmt matter what the guys job was. Why do people think it does?
She phoned for help amd he is supposed to be a professional. He didn't introduce himself as "hi I'm a layman and I don't know what I am talking about"

anonymousnotyourbusiness · 21/07/2023 21:16

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:14

It doesmt matter what the guys job was. Why do people think it does?
She phoned for help amd he is supposed to be a professional. He didn't introduce himself as "hi I'm a layman and I don't know what I am talking about"

You should not give ibuprofen for chicken pox unless advised by a doctor', OP stated the man is a doctor

meditated · 21/07/2023 21:17

JustKeepSw1mming · 21/07/2023 21:10

You are over reacting
111 guy doesn't know everything. Very unlikely that ibuprofen would cause an issue

I'm guessing when they added the 'unless advised by a doctor' bit on the website they didn't imagine the doctor will be advising it over the phone without actually examining the child.

Confusedotcomm · 21/07/2023 21:18

Complications from Ibruprofen and chicken pox is rare, it’s tenuously linked to causing the sores to become infected which in Uber rare cases causes a very serious illness, hence we’re advices to stick with calpol . Having said that, most children with chicken pox if given ibruprofen won’t suffer any ill effects and if they do they develop slowly giving drs a chance to intervene.
If The child is extremely unwell with a very high fever from chicken pox and paracetamol isn’t cutting it , drs will often advise the use of ibruprofen too because the benefit / risk balance tips very favourably towards its use.

Hufflepods · 21/07/2023 21:19

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meditated · 21/07/2023 21:20

@JustKeepSw1mming sorry, meant to quote a different post, not yours.

Hufflepods · 21/07/2023 21:20

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:14

It doesmt matter what the guys job was. Why do people think it does?
She phoned for help amd he is supposed to be a professional. He didn't introduce himself as "hi I'm a layman and I don't know what I am talking about"

Of course it matters 😂

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:21

Did he explain why you should give it or what you should do next or I am assuming you didnt just hang up?

anonymousnotyourbusiness · 21/07/2023 21:21

meditated · 21/07/2023 21:17

I'm guessing when they added the 'unless advised by a doctor' bit on the website they didn't imagine the doctor will be advising it over the phone without actually examining the child.

As they know that it is chicken pox, he wouldn't need to examine

ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:22

meditated · 21/07/2023 21:17

I'm guessing when they added the 'unless advised by a doctor' bit on the website they didn't imagine the doctor will be advising it over the phone without actually examining the child.

He hasn't examined her at all. I'm shocked he advised it without seeing her.

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ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:22

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:21

Did he explain why you should give it or what you should do next or I am assuming you didnt just hang up?

No not at all.

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Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:22

It matters if op assumed he was a doctor and he wasn't or he didn't identify himself

NuffSaidSam · 21/07/2023 21:27

Sandcastles24 · 21/07/2023 21:14

It doesmt matter what the guys job was. Why do people think it does?
She phoned for help amd he is supposed to be a professional. He didn't introduce himself as "hi I'm a layman and I don't know what I am talking about"

Of course it matters if someone giving you medical advice is a doctor or not. Absolutely bizarre to think it doesn't!

Do you have that attitude when you seek medical help....just happy to see anyone, doesn't matter what their job is?! That's one way of dealing with the NHS crisis I suppose.

Seddon · 21/07/2023 21:27

You've quoted and responded to other points since, but ignored the helpful information from @Confusedotcomm .

It does seem like you wasted everyone's time seeking medical advice as you consider yourself the expert.

NuffSaidSam · 21/07/2023 21:29

ARRGHHHHHxxxxx · 21/07/2023 21:22

He hasn't examined her at all. I'm shocked he advised it without seeing her.

Presumably what he needs to know is her temperature etc. If she has a dangerously high temperature/is in a great amount of discomfort then that takes precedence over avoiding a very rare complication from ibuprofen.

Do report if you feel the need to though.