Page 5 | Broken foot and strange doctor

Oldnamechangeyetagain · 11/07/2023 08:43

Beeinalily · 11/07/2023 08:33

@Oldnamechangeyetagain no medical qualifications, just personal experience of the same injury. It hurt like hell, and there's no way I would have walked about on it until it was healed.

How do you know it was 'the same injury' ?

Did you see and evaluate both sets of x-rays? Check for accessory bones? Read the case history?

What exactly was your injury?

March Fracture? Lisfrance injury? Plantar plate tear? Sesamoiditis?

Please enlighten me as to how you can make such a sweeping statement, I'm all ears 🙂

Sirzy · 11/07/2023 08:54

And even if it is a similar injury nobody is saying that it won’t be painful. But that doesn’t mean the doctor was wrong with saying there was no need to splint it. Splinting doesn’t come without issues.

Beeinalily · 11/07/2023 09:03

All I've suggested is that it should be rested. Please people, don't reply until after your second cup of coffee!

LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 09:19

Keepingthingsinteresting · 10/07/2023 23:14

Sorry @Threemangoes but you’re « that » parent, demanding a medically unnecessary device because you don’t understand what is going on- like demanding antibiotics for a cold.

Next time try to stay calm and answer questions rather than getting embarrassed and going back after the event to be silly.

Exactly. .

You had a trainee professional tell you that a boot wasn't indicated for her injury and could be counter productive.

But you, google, and your furious husband decided you know better and demanded to waste nhs time and resources.

No wonder the nhs is on its knees.

Don't bother going next time as you clearly one better than them.

LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 09:20

JustMaggie · 11/07/2023 00:04

I think you absolutely did the right thing to go back and ask for support for your daughter's broken foot. Very weird behaviour from the dr and nurse who helped you.

No it isn't. They did what the injury required. Why do you think you know better than the specialists ?

Honestly. So many idiots.

LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 09:22

ArcticSkewer · 11/07/2023 00:11

So they told you before the Xray that for breaks in that area, the only treatment is rest.
Then after the results, told you the same rging.
They explained the reason why - to avoid weakening the muscles on the leg and foot.
They also referred you to a specialist for a phone consult to confirm the treatment plan.

Which part of that was not clear?

The bit where the op thinks she knows better than all of them and wants to put her child in a boot and weaken their foot.

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:00

olympicsrock · 11/07/2023 05:59

Treatment of fractures in children is not always the same as in adults.
When you immobilize a joint you can cause stiffness and muscle weakness which can be long lasting. The other problem with a boot is that it makes the legs an uneven length meaning that that you have to swing one hip and put pressure on the other ( not great in a developing child) .

There are of course certain fractures where you need immobilization of the ankle joint but these are not forefoot fractures.

What your daughter really needs is rest and that means NOT being on her feet at school playing in the playground. A boot won’t change that. It means a few weeks of reading a book at or doing craft at playtime . Perhaps a week off school?

If she does have stress fractures of the metatarsals ( as sounds probable then they are stable , not misaligned and not as risk of becoming displaced.

I suspect the doctor was right that there was no advantage in a boot , their professional opinion was that a sturdy shoe and rest should suffice.

That's a very sensible reply. Thank you
Why couldn't the doctor explain it better to me? Is this standard practice to just tell parents yes and no without explaining the reasons behind. This is why I have come here to listen to other people's experiences.
Lots of posters are unhappy with their lives and clearly projecting in their comments. So instead of giving a sensible answer or sharing their experiences they're "trying" to be clever and put me down??
IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT I TOOK HER AFTER 10 Days because elevation and ice packs have helped her just what the doctor would have advised anyways. He wasn't going to give her anything even on day 1 except for rest and elevation.
Please read and read again.

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:12

Beeinalily · 11/07/2023 08:13

Some extremely rude replies here, I would suggest that those posters look up any NHS thread on here and see how many cock ups the "professionals " can make. But OP, it IS only a couple of weeks until the end of term, is there any way your poor DD could study at home while resting up?

A lot of sad women getting their highs by being rude.

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Threenow · 11/07/2023 10:13

Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:12

A lot of sad women getting their highs by being rude.

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You really are a strange little creature.

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:15

LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 09:22

The bit where the op thinks she knows better than all of them and wants to put her child in a boot and weaken their foot.

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I'd love to see you walk around in school on a broken foot without support.
Be a good girl and follow your doctor's advice. Don't ever question shhhhh!

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Whinge · 11/07/2023 10:16

Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:15

I'd love to see you walk around in school on a broken foot without support.
Be a good girl and follow your doctor's advice. Don't ever question shhhhh!

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But your daughter has been doing just that for 10 days...

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:18

Whinge · 11/07/2023 10:16

But your daughter has been doing just that for 10 days...

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No she barely went to school for 1-2 days before she made it worse.

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LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 10:19

She can walk on it. It's not like a broken leg. You've had her walking on it without a boot for ten days!!! A boot isn't a magic cure, you're like a five year old demanding a plaster for a bruise. It's not medically indicated. It's not the right treatment for the injury. But you're clearly one of those people that thinks you know best when you know nothing about it.

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:24

Oldnamechangeyetagain · 11/07/2023 05:53

@3threemangoes "He didn't tell me what bones in the foot she has broken. Just said that you have broken 3 bones."

So how do you know she has broken 3 metatarsals?🤔

And why did you wait 10 days before seeking medical help?

Beats me why some posters think they know better than the professionals.🙄

If you aren't happy with what the NHS provides then make an appointment with a private Physiotherapist or Podiatrist.

We pay high taxes to fund the doctors and nurses. I should be getting a thorough service if once in a blue moon I need it.
You need to read my posts. It does show in your comment that why you are here :)

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:25

LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 10:19

She can walk on it. It's not like a broken leg. You've had her walking on it without a boot for ten days!!! A boot isn't a magic cure, you're like a five year old demanding a plaster for a bruise. It's not medically indicated. It's not the right treatment for the injury. But you're clearly one of those people that thinks you know best when you know nothing about it.

So you don't have any experience with a broken foot neither are you a medical professional but thanks for your 2 cents 😃

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Greenfishy · 11/07/2023 10:25

EmmaBridgewaterMugs · 10/07/2023 23:34

Blatant placemarking because I have had a dodgy foot for over 10 years but those exercise sheets on the links a PP gave are excellent.

Without derailing, but am I? Anyway, I can’t rotate my left ankle. If I try to draw a circle with my big toe and the ball of my foot, it barely moves as opposed to a beautiful circle drawn with my right foot. Does anyone have any ankle exercises?

Did you break your foot as a kid and your mum insisted you wear a boot, even though the doctor said it might weaken your muscles? Apparently that can cause some damage…..

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:27

HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas · 11/07/2023 07:29

I’ve broken my foot before and never got a boot, just limped about for a bit until it healed. That’s quite standard. And better long term than weakening muscles with a boot.

Thanks. Will it weaken her muscles even if she's wearing it for a few hours in school only for 2 weeks?

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:31

Believeitornot · 11/07/2023 07:34

Maybe OP you’re a bit annoyed at yourself for not asking in the appointment? I usually make a note of things beforehand as in the moment, I can imagine I’ll forget. And I’m happy to ask what may be seen as stupid questions.

Lessons learned there (I say this as someone who’s taken my kids to minor injuries far too many times)!

Yes I'm annoyed at myself for not questioning in the 3 min I was given. Before I could even think the doctor had us out of the room with there's nothing we can do. I'm also annoyed at the lack of professionalism and quality of service.
It shows how little we use their service I think it's the norm and people are used to this quality of service.

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chipsandpeas · 11/07/2023 10:37

i broke 3 bones in my foot and was given an elasticated bandage and just to take normal painkillers

LouLouC86 · 11/07/2023 10:46

Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:25

So you don't have any experience with a broken foot neither are you a medical professional but thanks for your 2 cents 😃

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You’re assuming I’m not a medical professional, just like you’re assuming you know better than the doctor who assessed your daughter. Perpetually wrong on these things aren’t you.

GherkinsOnToast · 11/07/2023 10:48

My DD (14) broke 4 bones in her foot about 3 weeks ago (arsing about with the rugby equipment!), we went straight to A&E when school called us, one x-ray, a double layer of tubigrip and Told to wear a supportive trainer laced tightly until she could walk without constant pain. She was back to school the next day with a note about trainers and no PE. She still did everything else as normal with regular paracetamol and ibuprofen. 3 weeks on she's still in trainers for school and only having painkillers at night after a day on her feet.

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:52

Popcorn640 · 11/07/2023 07:44

My DD broke metatarsals at that age a couple of years ago - she didn't need a boot. She wore a tight thick bandage around the middle of her foot for a couple of weeks - so your DD is probably past that stage - and then tubing grip from her toes to her knee for a month or so.

No boot necessary, weight bared (bore?) throughout.

You're being ridiculous demanding a boot when it isn't clinically necessary. You can buy tubigrip in boots.

We have a family member who is a physiotherapist who had no concerns about that as a course of treatment at all.

So your daughter had a tubing grip for a month or so to support her but you're telling me I'm being unreasonable to ask for support.
I didn't ask for a boot I asked for support to help her in school to which the doctor said you can have the boot.

He could have advised some bandages or other ways to support. This is where it didn't sit well with me, my concerns were dismissed in the 3 mins appointment.

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Threemangoes · 11/07/2023 10:57

GherkinsOnToast · 11/07/2023 10:48

My DD (14) broke 4 bones in her foot about 3 weeks ago (arsing about with the rugby equipment!), we went straight to A&E when school called us, one x-ray, a double layer of tubigrip and Told to wear a supportive trainer laced tightly until she could walk without constant pain. She was back to school the next day with a note about trainers and no PE. She still did everything else as normal with regular paracetamol and ibuprofen. 3 weeks on she's still in trainers for school and only having painkillers at night after a day on her feet.

Thanks for sharing!

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EmmaBridgewaterMugs · 11/07/2023 12:35

Greenfishy · 11/07/2023 10:25

Did you break your foot as a kid and your mum insisted you wear a boot, even though the doctor said it might weaken your muscles? Apparently that can cause some damage…..

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No, sadly I did once have a very poorly knee which required several hospital visits and all my mother said was that I had fat legs 😔 I would have loved to have had a mother who cared for me and fought my corner, the way the OP is doing for her DD.

Oldnamechangeyetagain · 11/07/2023 12:44

@Threemangoes I should be getting a thorough service if once in a blue moon I need it.

You got exactly that.

You need to read my posts.

I did do and like others couldn't make must sense out of them.

eg this He didn't tell me what bones in the foot she has broken. Just said that you have broken 3 bones."

So how do you know she has broken 3 metatarsals? 🤔