Very ill Baby and no idea what to do

[Wineasaurous]

My 13 month old baby is really poorly.
He's gone off and point blank refusing anything but water. Can't get any milk into him or food. He's lethargic and very clingy. He suddenly won't sleep through the night, won't nap at usual times, bad cough, diarrhoea, runny nose, temperature etc.
Thing is before he got poorly, he is a very independent baby. He loves to play and explore, eat everything, slept through the night and regular nap time. I rang 111 because every time we try to feed him food or formula he vomits it back up. Effortlessly. It just pours out of him. 111 told me to get him to the hospital who just sent us away. We went to the GP who checked him over and sent us away but I'm worried. It's been since Christmas Eve and he's just getting worse. Any advice?

Go back. Babies can and do deteriorate quickly.

If he was mine I would take him straight to A&E. Lethargic and not taking in any liquid would be my main concerns.........

Ring 111 again. It is possible he only wants water due to his throat being sure - this happened to my gd the doctors gave her a numbing spray.

Yes, take him back this morning and tell the gp exactly what you have said here.

I would seek medical advice ASAP. GP, walk in, A&E. I would say A&E is justified, with a baby that has been deteriorating for several days.

Go back to hospital

Seriously - trust your gut

Often they’ll turn you away saying it’s a virus and you need to go back.

Go back and be persistent

And straight away - he sounds dehydrated at best.

Yes take him to A&E - if he's gone since Christmas Eve without keeping down milk or water he must be severely dehydrated. My 6 year old was admitted to hospital and put on a drip when he'd gone 12 hours without keeping anything down.

You need to go to hospital and be persistent. He's far too little to be that poorly without receiving treatment.

When my son couldn't keep anything down, not even water, and we ended up at A&E for various reasons, the hospital told us they couldn't discharge him until he was keeping water down. He was almost 2. I'd go back to A&E, especially as he's lethargic.

Get yourself to A&E and don't move until you've had your baby seen. Good luck

Take him back. My DS was low level poorly for months before anyone took me seriously (turns out it’s food intolerance) but I was really fobbed off again and again with a clear ‘neurotic first time mum, babies are ill often’ attitude. Sometimes you have to be ‘that’ mum.

Go to the hospital. Dd was very ill a few years ago - we got sent away from the GP twice before being admitted via a&e. A day on a drip and she was on the mend again but it took admission.

Your baby may just have a crappy virus and be well again soon but I’d want a proper assessment given it’s been so long and he’s getting worse.

Have you got any water based ice lollies in the freezer? If you have then try feeding DC with them. (This is a tip is got from the 111 service )

Definitely take him back. You know him best and if you are worried then he needs to be seen again. Hope he improves soon OP, it's horrible when they're poorly.

Keep getting water in. Babies deteriorate when dehydrated so it’s better to keep hydrated rather than try to get food in and risk him bringing all liquids up.

Is he weeing?

Back to GP, not hospital. Ask GP for suggestions of drinks with some energy in that you could try and see what they say. Often it’s best not to push food as some bugs will clear up more quickly when not ‘fed’ but as it’s been a few days it’s best to get medical advice on this.

You poor things, it is their duty of care to not send baby home until he is eating Do not feel bad about returning to A& E. I would call ambulance if he has hardly had any fluids for 4 days. He sounds like he has deteriorated and needs intravenous fluids pronto

A&E I'd say trust your instinct.

It’s not a matter of trusting guts or instinct- it’s about looking at continuing worrying symptoms and acting accordingly.

It sounds like your baby could have bronchiolitis (cough, cold, runny nose) and is dehydrated (vomiting, dioreah, lethargic). Definitely GP at the very least. What's his fontanel like (the soft spots on his head), if sunken then it's a sign of dehydration.

It could of course be something else but my daughter had bronchiolitis at 6 months and I was told to give nurofen 20 mins before offering milk as it would help her throat (it did) and she took milk for the first time in nearly 24 hours (had she not then I was told that she would need to go into hospital). Prior to this we'd been told to give diorolyte (sp?) to replace some of the fluids, salt and sugar that were lost.

A dehydrated baby can rapidly deteriorate, so even if you were sent away yesterday, then it's time to check again if no improvement or worsening. I found that it helped to stress each symptom and not downplay anything. I kept repeating myself and I also wrote everything down before I went so that I didn't forget anything.

I think you have your answer but I agree that a&e seems like the best course of action in this case.

He's had bronchiolitis before (last January) and we were kept in overnight.
Like I say, water is the only thing he isn't refusing. Have been given some ORS for him which he did take. Have been giving him a syringe of water/ORS every 10 mins.
His wee was dark yesterday, lots of dry nappies (hence why we went to the drs) but every time I've been to the drs they just give me that fucking orange book! His nappy was wet this morning and no as dark so the water thing is working but I just tried giving him 4 Oz of milk and it was straight back up after he'd drank 2oz.
Fontinel is fine, still as usual so not sunken.
He's rubbish at home but he loves people making a fuss of him so is still smiling and chatting to drs when they've looked at him but gone straight back to lethargic cuddles when we get home.

Could you take a video of him at home? Then you could show the doctor and they can see what you mean which might help..?

If he’s drinking water I wouldn’t worry too much, as soon as he stops drinking Water and theres no output go straight to AandE. When your poorly you don’t feel like doing anything or eating anything and babies are the same. Is it possible to go out and buy some hydrating sachets?

It is a worry when little ones are sick but as long as there’s output (wee and poop) and his mouth is slightly moist he’s ok when these things change without hesitating get baby to hospital.

His poop is Just brown water at the moment as he hasn't eaten anything since Christmas Day and even that was a few bits of carrot.
It's just that you read all these horror stories on Facebook of children who go to bed fine and just don't wake up again because they've unknowingly had the flu or they sneezed one minute then suddenly they're on respirators and it's bloody terrifying! This is just so unlike him

Take him through A&E op tell them you're worried. Better to follow mums instinct. You've been doing everything possible to help your little man, hopefully they'll take you more serious now and get him better. Sending you both love xxx