All of you who CHOOSE not to vaccinate your children

[UniqueAndAmazing]

Do you realise that's the reason why there's now an epidemic of measles in Wales?

You know children with auto-immune problems, children with cancers, children with allergies that mean they can't be medicated, children who react badly to drugs?
You know them? They're suffering because of you not wanting to vaccinate your child.

You have no medical reason for not vaccinating, but plenty of reasons TO vaccinate.

You are causing a whole generation of children to be endangered from a preventable disease.

Measles can be fatal
(that means it can kill )

Mandra - I'm having a quiet day

it's just something I feel very strongly about.

When I first learned about the smallpox vaccine at school, I spent a long time looking at information regarding spread of disease and vaccination. was fascinating how many lives were saved because of it.

You honestly think that parents just can't be bothered then?
How do you know WHY parents aren't vaccinating their children!
Or are you omnipotent it something?

triballeader I hope both your dh, and your dd, are ok. It sounds like a rough time for your family

D0G
choosing not to vaccinate because there are medical issues in the family is the same as not being able to vaccinate.

and I think everyone should read triballeader's post there.

I had my dd vaccinated, but not until she was 5. That was my choice.

My friends dd had the MMR at the correct age. She was a bit grizzly afterwards but I guess that's normal.

She went to bed no bother. The following day the change in that child was incredible. It was like someone had flipped a switch or swapped her in the night.

Her speech stopped. Even now she has a serious speech delay.

She has had numerous bowel problems.

She stopped interacting, making eye contact.

She was a happy healthy child until that vaccine.

My friend now has a 16 months old DS. She refuses to vaccinate him.

She puts the blame fully on the MMR and feels that if her dd had never had it, she would be "normal" (her words, not mine) now.

They should never have done away with the single vax - they have brought this on themselves

Yes. They should have kept single vaccines available when they knew what was stopping some parents from having the triple, or when they saw that concerns were affecting take up.

Will you read the OP?! She makes the point that people choosing not to vaccinate for airy fairy reasons reduces herd immunity and puts children who genuinely cannot be vaccinated and rely on herd immunity at risk.

I would ship anyone who chooses not to have their kids vaccinated for ridiculous reasons to a third world country And swap them with a family who actually value first world medicine and incredibly low child mortality rates.

I dont think the twain shal ever meet on threads like this.

and why didn't they keep them available? Does anyone know?

inconvenient truth, I think.

Good on you, OP.

to the rest of you - smallpox.

Queen - :(
again, that is as very valid medical reason not to vaccinate.
and you know that's not the situation I'm referring to in my OP.
it's those I mean that put your friend's kids at risk.

yes, I agree that the single vaccines should have been made available on the NHS.

What do you consider airy fairy reasons?
Genuinely interested.
If a parent is concerned or scared that a vaccine may harm their child is it fair to call them Airy fairy due to their concern/worry?
As I said, my dc are vaccinated. I believe in vaccination.
I think it would have been a real eye opener for the govt if they had asked every parent attending these special clinics in Wales WHY they didn't vaccinate. Then they might have a plan to go forward and increase vax rates.
Single jabs perhaps.
Or later vax schedules.
Whatever.

they don't keep them available because they cost more and it's deemed there is no reason for it. (they thought they'd end up throwing loads away once the dates had past and the scare had died down)
I suppose they didn't think it would last as long.

They cost more? I always thought the parents had to pay for them anyway?

Sorry but having some trouble digesting those reasons as valid

Completely agree with OP.

airy fairy reasons are the ones that "ooh my child might get autism even though it's been disproved"
"oh, maureen's sister's friend's brother's friend's cousin had a bad reaction"
"oh, it might cause a bad reaction (without medical history to back that up)"
"it's all a government conspiracy"
"the rest of the herd will protect me"
"feeding a child orange and lemon juice is all you need to cure/treat it"
"my child might cry at the jabs"
"i prefer natural remedies"
"measles isn't that serious, what a few spots and a temperature?"
etc

"Queen - sad
again, that is as very valid medical reason not to vaccinate.
and you know that's not the situation I'm referring to in my OP.
it's those I mean that put your friend's kids at risk."

So what you're saying is that people should put their kids at risk of turning out like the child of Queen's friend for the sake of other kids, Unique.

Having a child turn out like Queen's friend's child is precisely why some parents won't vaccinate regardless of the benefits to the kids of strangers.

Mandra - i know, but the jabs as they are have evidence to be the least risky and distressing to the child.

Hazard - it's a very small risk.
and yes, I am.

The best excuse I have heard is "the jabs don't do anything and it's the government inserting microchips".

I realise that excuse isn't the norm though...

(please refer to my comment about road crossing)

And if they did introduce the single vaccines just imagine what the conspiracy theorists would make of it..............