GP not being very helpful regarding Circumcision

[Debster7808]

I went to see the GP recently at the first check-up after DS2 was born, and I said that because DS1 was circumcised (-he was born in US, where it kind of gets done as a routine just after boys are born-), we wanted to get DS2 done as well, while he's still a newborn. I was really surprised when the GP tried to talk me out of getting it done, which means that I'm a bit lost as to where next to turn to get this done. I can understand that circumcision isn't available on the NHS, which is fine, but if I want to go private, don't I need a GP referral? Should I just seek a second GP's opinion?
Anyone have any experience of getting their boys circumcised in a culture that generally doesn't do it?

All credit to MrsMicawber for being able to see that it looks different from the pov of a non-circumcising culture.
And for sympathy with my friend whose DS had a botched circimcision (though not in any disastrous way - it just means he is only half circumcised, no worse result than the intended result, afaik).

I do also understand the cultural / religious imperative. I wouldn't do it for those reasons, but I understand those who do. It seemed illogical to me that my friend, as a non Jewish mother, agreed to circumcise her child, but maybe the fact that because of her he wouldn't be really jewish made her even more likely to agree to something that would give a connection to the father's family.

I am amazed at the number of women who have not married or not taken their DH's name, who nevertheless give the child the man's surname without a second thought. Finding ways to bond family ties between male babies and their fathers seems to have deep roots.

Barbaric mutilation of a person who is not in a position to give his consent. Full stop.

Do his future girlfriends/boyfriends a favour.

Tossing off a circumcised cock is infinitely more difficult.

I am not going to comment on religious circing, but anyone who does it to make a baby boy match his dad etc, we are talking about cosmetic surgery, on a baby, performed with very little, if any anaesthesia. Don't be fooled, the cream only numbs the very surface of the skin, and even injections of local anaesthetic hurt. Once these have worn off the pain from the raw skin of the glans, which will have had the still fused foreskin peeled off it (think a finger with the skin or nail peeled off it) will be extraordinarily painful, especially every time he wee's, which at this age, is very often.

Why not wait until your baby boy is bigger, and then ask him if he wants it done, not only are you giving him a chance to decide for himself, it's also a less traumatic procedure once the foreskin has naturally separated.

Finally, there are countless videos online showing routine infant circing, watch a few, and then decide if you really want that done to your tiny, sweet, perfect boy.

My 6 year old was done for medical reasons last year. Awful for him just bloody awful.
Why would you willingly want that done to your child?

I don't agree with it, but speak to your Health Visitor. Mine said that she knew someone good who could do it if I was going to get it done to my son. Maybe yours knows someone too.

For all those of us who feel strongly that circumcision is a bad thing, there is a "stop infant circumcision" e-petition on the DirectGov website.

Not sure if I am allowed to provide a link - you just need to google "government e-petitions circumcision".

I have signed it.

Thankyou TheFarSide I will be signing that,I'm sure you can link to it.

Hmm,I can't find it? Just a few that have been rejected because ther Lready is one IYSWIM.

'...There already...' sorry,iPad has a mind of its own!

Googling that will take you to a petition that has been rejected, as there is already another one. So search 'circumcision' and you will find the one that is still open.

I have signed.

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2325

I would say that unless it is medically necessary don't get it done - DH is done for medical reasons and DS started getting horrendous infections just after he started school which meant he needed it done for medical reasons too - it was absolutely horrific - can't think why anyone would want to put their child trhough it unless it is absolutely necessary.

Done.
DP signed too.

OP please reconsider.
Your precious baby boy is perfect already.

I THINK THE OP IS TAKING THE PISS AND IS A TROLL.

No one in there right mind can write such bullshit.

Wow, you anti-circ brigade are organised, very persistent, and probably bored.

Meanwhile, I've got the information I need and am getting on with my life. Bye all, it was nice. I'll leave you to this thread which you have long since hi-jacked anyway.

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I can't understand why someone so sure she is in the right can't muster a few decent arguments. Or at least counter the ones on the other side.

Debster

Please can you explain why you think that your son is imperfect. You have obviously made up your mind and are disregarding the reasons why, in this country, circumcision is considered entirely unnecessary and barbaric by the vast majority. I can't think of a good enough analogy to convince you that you don't need to have someone take a knife to your son's willy.

Incidentally, unless you live in an area with a large numbers of Jews and/or Muslims your boys might become targets for bullying because they will be "different".

Oh, and I always question the "because that is because we have always done it this way" argument as it is not a valid or logical reason.

I can't understand why someone so sure she is in the right can't muster a few decent arguments. Or at least counter the ones on the other side.

Perhaps because the OP was never interested in having any sort of argument and feels no compunction to defend her decision??? After all, she did not post here asking "should i circumcise my son?"

No, I am not in favour of circumcision. But the nastiness on this thread far exceeds even that I've seen on breastfeeding vs. bottlefeeding; abortion vs. choice; or cosleeping vs. cotsleeping threads. I understand its a volatile issue that people feel passionately about, but the treatment of the OP is really bad.

meh, typical response from someone who knows what they are doing is wrong.

Debster - if you go through with it at least have the balls to watch it being done, and maybe dont try for any more kids incase you have another boy

My son had to be circumcised for medical reasons. Some of the words used on this thread are vile and hugely insensitive. I do hope you are comfortable telling your friends who have had surgery (for whatever reason) that they are mutilated and unpleasant to look at. I am sure my 6yr old son would be delighted to hear your comments on his appearance

Giganticus I think you misunderstand. If I saw someone who had lost a keg through an accident I wouldn't call it mutilation. However, if I saw someone with a leg missing because their parents had arranged for it to be chopped off then I would.

giganticus - I think the difference is the reason for the removal of the foreskin. If its just for some silly arse reason like "it looks nicer" "his vain knobend of a dad wants his son to look like him but heaven forfend the idea of my daughter having her labia stretched so it looks like my minging vag" "its what everyone round here does" then it takes the procedure to another level that I would call class as mutilation.

Medical reasons - totally different

And all penises IMO arent exactly pleasant to look at, foreskin or no.