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A fête worse than the Chalet School

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EmilyAlice · 29/06/2015 13:30

Roll up, roll up!
Bid for a mortgage on the doll's house! Pin the tail on the St Bernard! Guess the weight of the handsome doctor! (Or pin the tail on the doctor and guess the weight of the St Bernard). Knit a lime green liberty bodice against the clock!
The Chalet School fête is open.....

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EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 20/09/2016 16:01

Still incomplete yes, I didn't know that when I posted the links Sad.

It's worth reading though if only for Rowan bollocking Joey.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 20/09/2016 16:37

I think Rowan is my favourite Marlow. Although really I'm quite well disposed towards all of them except Nicola.

I only read AF as an adult and wonder whether I might have liked Nicola more had I met her earlier? I think I'd certainly have been less sympathetic towards Ann, and probably Ginty and Lawrie too. Miranda I would have still liked very much. I might have liked Tim more than I do now. I'd still have liked Rowan best of all.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 20/09/2016 16:59

Rowan is my favourite Marlow too.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 20/09/2016 16:59

And I think that she'd have got on rather well with Nell Wilson.

morningtoncrescent62 · 20/09/2016 19:45

I think Rowan is my favourite Marlow. Although really I'm quite well disposed towards all of them except Nicola.

Lawrie is my favourite Marlow. In fact, make that Lawrie is the only Marlow I like. She's more straightforwardly a spoilt little madam who wants her own way - the others mainly are that, they just don't know it. Ann with her passive agressive fussing, Rowan with her smug superiority, Nicola with her do-as-I-like-and-act-surprised-when-I'm-found-out attitude and princess Ginty. I always feel so sorry for Lois, up against the golden family to whom all good things seem to flow.

My favourite non-Marlow character in the series is Miranda, and I do hope she and Jan Scott managed to get together post-Kingscote.

I like to think Nell Wilson would have seen right through Rowan and been able to take her down a peg or two.

NotCitrus · 21/09/2016 12:27

Are you reading the Chalet and the Marlows on the Sally Denny site? Try Archive of Our Own - it's fine there.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 21/09/2016 12:27

It's there too? Thank you!!!

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 21/09/2016 12:40

I found Marlows at St Mildred's there, NotCitrus, but I can't see Chalet School & the Marlows. Have you got a link?

Witchend · 21/09/2016 16:08

I go away for the weekend and I find you all having paper games with fan fiction. Humph!

It wasn't a very Chalet School weekend, more an Enid Blyton one as dd2 was in a circus-and definitely is up for running away to join one!

NotCitrus · 21/09/2016 16:22

Sorry, was getting mixed up about which story people were discussing - I swear post from Switzerland would travel faster than my current internet provider! Even if the firm is a translation of Jungfrau...

morningtoncrescent62 · 21/09/2016 16:24

Was it Galliano's by any chance, Witchend?

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 21/09/2016 16:38

I have done my very best googling and failed to find a complete version anywhere. Woe! Although I haven't quite finished the incomplete scrambled version yet, so my own woe is postponed.

I have more ponderings on the Marlows to post, but will have to write them later...

morningtoncrescent62 · 21/09/2016 19:16

Ha! I've just found this gem from The Chalet School and the Marlows. Background: the Senior Middles are in their common room, and Lawrie is bored with her library book.

“What is it this time? ‘The Little Marie-Jose’?” picking the volume up from the rug where it had been lying. “Sounds ghastly. Who wrote it? Elinor Brent-Dyer? Nevererdover.” “Her school stories are pretty good,” Con, who had followed her over, put in. “But some of the rest is the most awful tosh.”

They Both Liked Dogs, anyone?

hels71 · 21/09/2016 19:19

I love Antonia Forest! i must find these crossovers....
Actually the only EBD I have so far failed to get through is Elizabeth the Gallant...

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 21/09/2016 19:57

Haha! I haven't read any non-CS non-LR EBD yet, although I think I've got Elizabeth the Gallant and possibly Jean of Storms on my bookshelves (and I think some are in the onedrive too, aren't they?). Should get around to that sometime soon.

My Marlovian pondering is prompted by mornington's dislike, really. I do agree that they are all quite similarly smug, selfish and self-satisfied (with the possible exception of Ann). Weirdly I am capable of finding this perfectly agreeable in all cases except Nicola. (Rowan is super capable, so I'm happy for her to be self-satisfied - it seems deserved. I like capable. The others, I guess I see a weird charm in it.)

Anyway, that's my own opinions and not the point. What I am wondering is whether AF likes/approves of them? I think if I had come at this from any angle other than a CS starting point, it's not a question that would even occur to me - it's quite EBD-specific to have such obvious favourites among the cast. Reading that (excellent) fanfic, it's very very clear that the author likes Nicola and doesn't like Lawrie or Ginty, for example - and that feels potentially authentic AF for me, but then I've only read three of her books (and each of those once only), so happy to be corrected.

Is it the point that they're all similarly problematic? Does AF go in for the 'these are the good characters' thing the way EBD does, but with more nuance - or not at all?

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 21/09/2016 19:57

Also, I finished reading the unfinished fic on the tube home today - argh! Wish there was more of it.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 22/09/2016 13:02

Well, that killed the thread. Grin

morningtoncrescent62 · 22/09/2016 17:49

I haven't got to the end of the fanfic yet - I'm finding it difficult because of the layout so I'm only reading an episode or two at a time. At least it makes it last longer. Smile

I wonder if the Marlows are the family AF wished she'd been born into, but in relation to which she was always an outsider - so she doesn't actually like any of them, but is fascinated by them. I also think she's pretty explicit that we're seeing through Nicola's eyes, and getting a presentation of the other siblings as they appear to Nick.

I do wonder sometimes if my own view of the Marlows is coloured by having read the later books first, at the time they were published, when the earlier ones had gone out of print. Maybe the reader's sympathy towards Nicola is built up from the start, but meeting her 'cold' (as it were) in Cricket Term she's not particularly attractive. By the time I met her younger self, I had a well-established dislike of her.

EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs · 22/09/2016 17:52

I wish there was more of it too!

Witchend · 22/09/2016 22:26

It's good, and I wish she'd have finished it too.
I particularly like the developing of Ann. Ann always seemed to me to get the rough deal. Slightly reminded me of that bullying episode in Malory Towers with the girl who always wanted to do things for other people-Catherine, I think.
I agree with seeing them through Nicola's eyes. Kay always seems remote, Rowan the big sister who will protect, Ann fussing, Ginty-well a sort of disliking admiration and Lawrie who needs looking after.
I think actually I'd have got on best with Ann, despite the way Nicola views her. And I agree with the writer that Ann would be the one who did best out of the Chalet School.
Not sure that miss A would have let Vi give up her part for Lawrie. I think she'd have spieled some thing along the lines of Vi doing her best before God and that would be good enough.

I like the history AF ones best, Nick in that is wonderful. And it reminds me of Cue for treason, which I also love.

No not Galliano's MormingtonCrescent Circus Bijou, or rather a partnership between that and another group. Extraordinary Bodies performing at Bristol. I think dd2 thinks it's like Galliano's though. Grin It's got her through some pretty low points this last year so I'm very grateful she's had the opportunity.

NotCitrus · 23/09/2016 12:19

Finally got the whole Marlows story to download on the desktop! I enjoyed it, especially the reactions all round to a different school's way of doing things (I always found the Chalet boasts of 'so much freedom' unbelievable too) - and liked even Miss Annersley learning something.
Shame it's unfinished - it only really needs one more chapter, to rescue Margot and tidy up. Len and Rowan standing up to Joey are great, and Reg is a much more sympathetic character for not actually being there - I would predict Ginty pulling him at some point, him being rather repulsed by the forwardness, and ending up eventually with Len after she's at least graduated from Oxford.

morningtoncrescent62 · 23/09/2016 15:33

Shame it's unfinished - it only really needs one more chapter, to rescue Margot and tidy up.

Anyone fancy writing it? Pretty please? I'll donate Cake (or apfelstrudel if you'd rather) and light country Wine for the person who does!

EmilyAlice · 23/09/2016 15:50

I am getting a bit worried about the Princess, who hasn't been here for ages. Has she been kidnapped or has she changed her name to escape her mad cousin?
Also we are getting near the end of the thread, which is probably a good thing as the summer fête has been going on for nearly eighteen months....

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NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 23/09/2016 16:27

Yes - has anyone won the clock golf yet? More importantly, what shall we call the next thread?

I posted a long post on this thread this morning but the crappy tube wifi ate it. Sad Will have to rehash it later.

EmilyAlice · 23/09/2016 17:54

The best I can do at the moment is "The Chalet School and the Jorum of Special Milk", but I will keep thinking. Anyone else got any ideas?

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