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Childminder's dog has bitten DD

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Jugglingitall85 · 27/03/2025 17:07

Last week my childminder's dog bit my DD on the face. What would you do? I feel like I have lost trust in their judgement and allowing this to happen.

OP posts:
Lalalaahhh · 28/03/2025 20:07

@LandSharksAnonymous The childminder is to blame. You cannot expect a three year old to be reliable around dogs enough to never do anything the dog wouldn’t like. Even adults cannot be trusted to do things dogs don’t like and can’t read dog body language. Even the most chilled out dog could be unpredictable if they are in pain. This was an old dog and could very well be the case. They should have been separated, full stop.

Christwosheds · 28/03/2025 20:24

WhenICalledYouLastNightFromTesco · 28/03/2025 01:10

Out of curiosity OP, was it a single puncture wound or several teeth marks left? I know you've told the minder's account, but also said that she didn't see it happen. The only reason I ask is that when we were kids my sister was sat with the dog and she 'bit her' leaving a single puncture wound just below her eye.

She didn't bite her though and my mum witnessed the whole thing. A fly was flying around and the dog instinctively went for it, unfortunately it was by my sister's face and one of the dog's canines caught my sister's upper cheek.

The bastard that was my dad had that beautiful dog PTS and I hated him for it, even though my mum protested. I even resented my mum for a while for being so bloody weak to him and for not saying 'No, the dog is not going to be PTS'.

My toddler dd was grazed on the face by a small dog in a similar way. He snapped at another dog and accidentally caught her with a tooth, he was snapping, not biting, and it wasn’t intended for her.
My friend had a rescue dog who would snap at your hand if you touched her when she was sleeping. She had been very badly treated by her previous owner, (dog was in the local paper as a severe cruelty case). We knew to always talk to her if she was asleep to wake her up, before trying to touch her. So there are scenarios where the dog is either snapping from pain or fright , as a warning. The childminder should have crated her dog or locked the door.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 28/03/2025 20:30

WinterMorn · 27/03/2025 17:38

Well, there are if the dog was secured away from children, was provoked in some manner and then bit to defend itself.

Well that's called 'natural selection' as far as I'm concerned. A wild animal may attack when threatened or provoked; a domesticated one has to learn they can't do that. That learning needs to happen before they are around children or are large enough to cause serious damage.

An animal cannot be 'secured away' and manage to bite a child; that's nonsensical. It is secure or it's not.

That said, breaking a dog's ribs is beyond 'provoking' so I agree that was a reasonable response to that event.

Dogsafety123 · 28/03/2025 20:38

LandSharksAnonymous · 28/03/2025 07:09

I never said the child was. BUT OP is making excuses for her child - ‘it’s not for her to understand.’

And quite frankly, it is. By three children should know how to behave around pets. Regardless of what happened and why, OP should accept that.

OP and the childminder are equally at fault in my view - the childminder for having a dog around kids who clearly don’t know how to behave around dogs ‘child entered the room the dog was in’ and OP for sending her child - who she claims is to young to know how to behave around dogs - to a childminder with a dog.

Both adults should take responsibility.

You are sounding utterly unhinged. At three years old, the tiny child is not responsible for anything. They are in the care of an adult who is responsible for them.

Are you so obsessed with dogs that you want to blame a toddler for a dog bite? Utterly bizarre.

Dogsbreath7 · 28/03/2025 20:52

If the dog didn’t do significant damage and it is out of character then pts is unfair. But it shouldn’t be near children and the owner should consider rehoming.

Has the OP even asked the childminder what extra protections she has put in place?

cardboardvillage · 28/03/2025 21:22

I dont think owning a dog is compatible with being a childminder

remove child from
setting

GabriellaFaith · 28/03/2025 22:24

I think some of the responses are extreme. It's not necessarily a dangerous dog that needs to be pts, we don't know what happened. The issue was that the childminder allowed it to happened. I'd say that makes her the dangerous one!

But yes, needs reporting to ensure it does not happen again (I do not know, maybe someone on here can advise, but I would assume the dog is supposed to be segregated from the children in her care?)

Personally I love animals, have our own, but I don't leave my kids anywhere that has dogs without me because I know it only takes a second. When my mum has my kids the dogs go my sisters.

I think you are right to feel the trust is gone.

I hope your little girl is okay and it was minor and healing quickly.

Rainallnight · 28/03/2025 22:48

Mrsbloggz · 27/03/2025 17:40

I wouldnt use a childminder who has a dog in the first place.

Exactly this.

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2025 23:02

Jugglingitall85 · 27/03/2025 22:41

She’s there every Friday so she won’t be going back tomorrow. I had made my decision I just needed to hear some other perspectives. I also won’t be paying notice.

I think the fact that she didn’t actually see it happen is annoying me as well.

Of course it is. You are being gaslit. This horrible thing happened because dog was startled. Only noone saw. So that is just the narrative I want to believe and want you to believe. It is actually the truth.

Fuck that. She has no clue what happened. She was not watching and she left your precious child alone with an animal which should never have been in proximity. An animal which then bit your child's face.

You cannot realgo overboard in this situation. It is entirely appropriate to lose your shit.

BlueFlowers5 · 28/03/2025 23:36

Of a person allows an aggressive dog to be feeling to bite someone, it's a 5 year prison sentence and a £2000 fine.

You need to report it OP and find another childminder where she can be safe.

mumofboys8787 · 29/03/2025 06:51

TheJollyMoose · 27/03/2025 17:09

I would have reported it to the police, and I would be plastering it all over social media that she has a dangerous dog that needs to be PTS and nobody should be using her.

I would destroy her childminding business so she never worked in the industry again.

What an evil thing to do

ScartlettSole · 29/03/2025 07:31

WhatAPrettyHouse · 27/03/2025 17:40

And how would you do that?

She wont, shes being a keyboard warrior.

Cdmachen · 29/03/2025 10:56

TheJollyMoose · 27/03/2025 17:09

I would have reported it to the police, and I would be plastering it all over social media that she has a dangerous dog that needs to be PTS and nobody should be using her.

I would destroy her childminding business so she never worked in the industry again.

You don't know the full circumstances I'm sure the childminder is devastated enough etc
You don't have to ruin her life with putting it all over social media.
If she did not care less fair enough though I would not do this unless full circumstances known.

Bowies · 29/03/2025 12:24

Of course it was on the CM to supervise and keep OP’s DD free from harm, OP is literally paying her to do so.

A 3 year old is impulsive and cannot be expected to be self regulating and self managing. They sometimes do unexpected things.

It’s natural DD might get bored and curious and for example want to see the dog or go into a different room.

The fact it wasn’t even witnessed says everything. I agree the CM should be reported and indeed should be reporting herself to Ofsted.

Evan456 · 29/03/2025 12:42

AirFryerCrumpet · 28/03/2025 18:39

Doesn't really matter if the toddler 'did something' to the dog though, the child should still be able to go to childcare without being bitten.

Dogs aren’t stuffed toys! She went into the room where the dog was put away, her mother shouldn’t have let her, the childminder had her dog away safely and as the mother already said it was growling so why would you allow your child into the dogs place?

WearyAuldWumman · 29/03/2025 12:45

Evan456 · 29/03/2025 12:42

Dogs aren’t stuffed toys! She went into the room where the dog was put away, her mother shouldn’t have let her, the childminder had her dog away safely and as the mother already said it was growling so why would you allow your child into the dogs place?

What makes you think that the mother was there?

"The bite was in defence, apparently she ran into the room he was in and scared him but she didn’t see it happen, she came back saying it had. It’s broken the skin underneath her eye."

Ketzele · 29/03/2025 13:25

This thread is as reactive as a maddened pit bull. It should be taken to a vet ASAP.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 29/03/2025 13:48

2024onwardsandup · 27/03/2025 17:35

I am
the biggest dog person going - but I would report to the police and all relevant regulatory bodies.

there are no two sides where a child in this environment is bitten by a dog.

"there are no two sides where a child in this environment is bitten by a dog"

spot on!

AirFryerCrumpet · 29/03/2025 14:19

Evan456 · 29/03/2025 12:42

Dogs aren’t stuffed toys! She went into the room where the dog was put away, her mother shouldn’t have let her, the childminder had her dog away safely and as the mother already said it was growling so why would you allow your child into the dogs place?

How's the mother supposed to supervise her child or the dog while she is at work and the child is at the childminders?
The dog obviously wasn't away safely if it bit a child.

Evan456 · 29/03/2025 14:30

AirFryerCrumpet · 29/03/2025 14:19

How's the mother supposed to supervise her child or the dog while she is at work and the child is at the childminders?
The dog obviously wasn't away safely if it bit a child.

You obviously did read properly! The dog was put away in another room the mother was there and the child went into the room where the dog was🙄

Jugglingitall85 · 29/03/2025 14:38

Evan456 · 29/03/2025 14:30

You obviously did read properly! The dog was put away in another room the mother was there and the child went into the room where the dog was🙄

Not sure how you have extracted that from what I have written. The dog was not put safely away. He was in a communal room that was easily accessible and no I wasn’t there. My DD was fully in the childminders care.

OP posts:
WearyAuldWumman · 29/03/2025 14:41

Evan456 · 29/03/2025 14:30

You obviously did read properly! The dog was put away in another room the mother was there and the child went into the room where the dog was🙄

Oh, the irony. You're making things up to suit the narrative in your head.

Re-read the part of the OP's post that I quoted above.

Bignanna · 29/03/2025 14:56

Evan456 · 28/03/2025 18:14

I’ve heard this sort of thing before, whilst I agree the dog should be away from the children, how do you all know that something nasty wasn’t done to the dog? At the end of the day they are living breathing creatures and have to put up with a lot from us humans, be it big or small ones. I always wonder why it’s always the dogs fault, she hasn’t told us all the circumstances

Whatever the reason is, it doesn’t matter, the fact remains that a dog bit a child. It can never be trusted again . The childminder is to blame for having it on the premises .

Thunderingfanjo · 29/03/2025 16:16

LoveMySushi · 27/03/2025 21:55

This is hard to answer without any information on the incident. My dog bit my son in the face when he was 2 or 3. She was sleeping on the carpet and he tripped over her and fell on her. She just snapped backwards as a reaction and grazed his cheek with her teeth. No puncture wound from an actual bite, but her tooth scratched his face quite deep.
She has never been agressive before or after that. It happened when she was 8 years old and she was still with us until recently when she died at 16.
It was just an accident, nothing malicious from the dog or my son. I should have been more alert and i was definitely more careful and keeping an eye on the dog at all times when she was near my son.
But she never showed any aggression or anything towards him.

I was just about to post exactly the same scenario.... it was an unfortunate accident.

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/03/2025 16:44

Jugglingitall85 · 27/03/2025 22:16

To update I have decided she’s not going back.

The bite was in defence, apparently she ran into the room he was in and scared him but she didn’t see it happen, she came back saying it had. It’s broken the skin underneath her eye.

Im actually quite furious and can’t stop thinking how much worse this could have been.

How did she run into the room the dog was in ?

edited as was in communal room. Dog was in wrong room. Not child

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