Childminder's dog has bitten DD

[Jugglingitall85]

Last week my childminder's dog bit my DD on the face. What would you do? I feel like I have lost trust in their judgement and allowing this to happen.

Because it’s easier for people to say that, easier to say the dog is dangerous and needs to be killed. It’s easier for them to vilify the childminder and want to destroy them. Doing that is far easier than hearing anything else because people are just ignorant, they just don’t care unfortunately. There could be so many reasons this has happened and I’m sure the childminder is absolutely devastated. I know I would be if I owned a dog who had bitten a child. The OP hasn’t said whatsoever what actions the childminder has taken since the incident, the childminder can’t defend themselves.

Its a child!.. you can't blame a child who is at their childminders! It's a business and they shouldn't have a dog around the child

Someone up thread said she was fed up with people saying big digs are more dangerous than small dogs I was responding to this.
I 100% agree the fault does not lie with the dog or the child or the parents the fault lies firmly at the door of the CM.

A dog bite does not automatically mean the dog is pts. There is not enough information regarding the incident here.

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I do find it bizarre that some people are so caught up in the drama and self-righteous indignation that they are prepared to destroy someone's livelihood without actually knowing what happened.
The OP gave no context in her original post, yet there you are, pitchfork out, ready to destroy someone.
I'm sure you think you are so,so right, but really ...?

Whatever the reason this happened the CM had a duty of care and she wasn’t supervising the child sufficiently to ensure it didn’t happen. The OP said the CM said her child ran into a room startled the dog and it bit her in the face. This screams insufficient supervision of dog and child.
If for example she was on the loo and couldn’t supervise the child she needed to ensure dog and child were not in position where the dog felt a need to bite the child. Personally I’m not a fan of stair gates to separate dogs from children little hands can easily get through the bars. The dog should be behind a shut door that the child is unable to open.

It might have already been asked but I’m presuming this has been reported to ofsted by the childminder?

You need to find out what triggered this action. Yes it’s awful but what was the background.

I don’t think, if I were you ,I could trust this particular child minder again .
I would be looking for another placement if I were you ..
I love dogs , have my own dog but interaction between children and dogs need to be closely supervised.
There is also a big difference between an overexcited dog nipping in play / excitement , a warning nip , and an aggressive bite .
Most dogs give a warning growl before a nip or bite and this was obviously not noticed ?
I don’t blame the dog , I do think the child minder was to blame for not separating the dog from the children if she could not closely supervise .
Children need to learn how to behave appropriately around dogs too , no teasing , no pulling at them

Well now you've explained the small dog mentality thanks confirmed exactly what I thought. And obviously nothing happens outside of the UK I gather lol. I've seen a small dog take someone by the throat so I wouldn't call it ridiculous but you're obviously small minded and not worth anymore of my energy.

Does it make a difference? A three year old should not be left to be in a position to be unattended with a dog, especially when the person is being trusted and paid to look after them.

do you know if the CM has done an incident report/form? I vaguely remember things like this have to be reported to Ofsted and a report available for future customers.

I looked round a CM’s and then when I looked up their Ofsted reports there was a child injured in their care and it really put me off as the report was clear that they weren’t appropriately supervised. While I know accidents can happen it put them on the ‘no’ pile and I think other parents should have all the info to make an informed choice with your CM in future

I’m not convinced the dog needs to be PTS after this episode. Many years ago a friend who owned horses failed to supervise her 5 yr old child properly the child peddled his scooter into her horse’s back legs and got kicked in the head causing a large brain haemorrhage. It wasn’t the horses fault or the child’s the fault lay with the parent, the horse was frightened and it reacted as frightened horses do you cannot remove that natural instinct however many carrots you feed your horse. No one suggested putting the horse to sleep. It’s the same with the dog it was apparently startled and reacted. It was doing what a startled dog in that situation can do.

Report it to Ofsted. They can suspend or even cancel the childminder if there is a risk to children.

I think it does. I hadn't realised that OP's DD was 3 when I wrote that, honestly.
Was imagining a rather older child teasing the dog.

I didn't say that a small dog was more dangerous then a large dog. I said all dogs should not be underestimated and to state as you did earlier that you would forgive a small dog for biting an 8 yr old in the face is absolutely insane.

Gosh you’re hostile! Actually I’m far from small minded. Actually as an HCP who often sees dig bites I’d love to see some global figures detailing the number of people who had there carotid artery (interior or exterior although I guess in the case of a small dog exterior is more likely) bitten by small dog and then bled to death.

Sorry, a young child should never be left unsupervised with a dog, end of. For this to be possible in a childminding situation is negligent and could have been so much worse. I would report to Ofsted and make a claim on her public liability insurance for the harm to your child and distress to you.

This is bollocks!! Op doesn't have responsibility for this incident.

The childminder should not have a dog and a child in her care unsupervised full stop. It's negligence.

We don't have any dogs in our household (as many children don't have) so my children wouldn't at 3yrs old know how to behave with a dog.
As a childminder she should not expect to have dog trained 3 year olds....she should base her plans and safety measures on worse case scenario and expect and assume the children do not know how to behave with dogs.

I’m not insane because I’ve never once said I’d forgive a small dog for biting an 8yr old in the face.

Wow unbelievable comment. You must be a troll or something. And if your not you're part of the problem we have so many out of control dogs in this country. The childminder is legally 100% responsible for her animal as are all animal owners, especially if they're running a business looking after children. It is legally completely her responsibility. You think the police are going to take into account what a 3 year old did? Nope. Ridiculous thing to say to OP.

@Jugglingitall85 Ignore comments like this. What happened was extremely serious also in the eyes of the law for many reasons. It could have been much worse. The number of owners whose dogs kill and then they say they've never done anything harmful before... The childminder is responsible for all risks in her house and the child cannot be blamed. It's like saying well the child burnt herself on an iron that was on... Oh but she should have known not to touch an iron 🙄

What does your child want are they afraid of the dog if not why not do they like and trust the childminder things happen but your child's happiness matters did your child pull the dogs tail or anything

Do not send your child back. This person needs to be removed from the Childminders Register. Did she seek medical advice for your child? You must report this I identify to both the registering body and the police.

No, she isn't. Don't be daft about a 3-year-old not being taught about dogs. The whole blame is on the childminder alone.

Jesus christ, some people.