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the nannies who want to moan,get advice,scream,be happy staff room thread!!!

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angisnuts · 15/02/2008 18:52

hi guys! as promised,a nanny staff room!! i will put the kettle on and wait for you guys to come and join me for a nice cuppa and a chat.....xxxx

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angisnuts · 15/02/2008 21:23

ok..i will start then! how do you guys get treated by prospective employers? i have been to a few interviews lately and have found quite a few of the parents interviewing come across as qiute snotty...?

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mightymoosh · 15/02/2008 21:46

alright all just need to sit down. had a long day. im in my new job, 3rd week and ive seen it all at interviews!

NiftyNanny · 16/02/2008 13:40

I tend to go for the ones who are really lovely and warm and friendly only to discover 4 weeks later that they are complete nutters...!!

My boss at the moment is very practical, straightforward and business like and was in the interview as well. I think it's going well - finally found a job where there are lines!

y trouble at the moment is trying to get everything done at the end of the day. I feel like if I turn my back on the kids they don't eat - the smallest one sits there in front of his plate without touching it. But if I don't use meal time to clear up the kitchen it adds an extra half hour on the day and it's been noted I'm not most organised with clearing up the evening meal (lunch is simpler as it's only one kid). I guess I just have to let them get on with it, and if they mess about then it's no TV for them!

By the way, I had one prospective employer bad mouthing her housekeeper, "she's not the most intelligent woman in the world or she wouldn't be a housekeeper, but her English is OK... I suppose" - and I was left thinking, this poor woman has traveled form South America to work in a foreign country and send money home - she's doing pretty well! If you think domestic staff are an "underclass" I don't think I want to work for you!

foxinsocks · 16/02/2008 13:43

just wanted to thank you - kids loved the letter and postcard. Dd has drawn you countless pictures but getting her to write more than Hello, Goodbye is proving taxing NOT because she doesn't want to but because she's, well, dd and you know what she's like with writing .

I am sending you a big hug and kisses from both of mine.

Glad to hear new job going OK! They don't know how lucky they are to have you!

NiftyNanny · 17/02/2008 11:40

Awwwwwwwwww....... thank you! Glad you got them OK! Pictures are welcome too
Hope things are going well for you with your new set up, too. I dropped you a mail on hotmail so feel free to reply off the record.

Enjoy half term...... ((0_0))

anyoneoutthere · 17/02/2008 12:00

I too am fed up with people not being honest. It cant be too much to ask for, surely?

anyoneoutthere · 17/02/2008 12:04

I think it would be nice if we had a group of nannies who emailed each other for support/help/advice.
Its a strange role to have and can be quite isolating. Lets face it, you never work with other nannies!

callaird · 17/02/2008 16:48

I have just started a new job (2 weeks) and all is going well! 17 week old twin boys and two mum's! The mum's are lovely, really down to earth, if a little crazy!! Am very happy, everything is as they said at the interview, the only problem is, I still don't have a written contract! I am not going to let it lie but how do I ask (again!) without it sounding wrong?? Liking the nanny staff room, but will only be able to visit at weekends as 3 and a half month old twins does not give a lot of time for surfing!!

nannynick · 17/02/2008 17:00

I don't start jobs without a written statement (signed contract)... but that's just me.

From ACAS (source)...
"The Employment Rights Act 1996 (amended under the Employment Act 2002) requires employers to provide employees, within two calendar months of starting work, with a written statement of the main terms and conditions of employment."

Without a written statement, a contract of employment does exist.

ACAS says the following: (source)
"All employees have a contract of employment which forms the basis of the employment relationship. In simple terms, an employee agrees to work for an employer in return for wages. A contract is made when the offer of employment is accepted. A number of rights and duties, enforceable through the courts, arise as soon as this happens.
Most employment contracts need not be in writing to be legally valid; a verbal agreement can be sufficient. However, writing down the terms of the contract can minimise later disagreements. The Employment Rights Act 1996 requires employers to provide most employees, within two calendar months of starting work, with a written statement of the main terms of the contract."

So your way forward is to rise with your employer the situation regarding having a written statement which describes your duties, hours of work, holiday entitlement, wage, what happens if you are sick, that sort of thing. If after gentle nagging... and several weeks have passed, alert them to the legal requirement.

nannynick · 17/02/2008 17:02

Your employer may have no idea how to produce a written statement, so point them towards the ACAS website and also to the specimen contract at NannyJob

angisnuts · 17/02/2008 22:17

i too am about to start a new job in 2 weeks so wish me luck guys! anyoneoutthere,i agree totally,how isolated is this job???!! sometimes after a day of taliking to kids and only kids my brain is frazzled!mightymoosh,how are you doing in your new job? hope all is peachy and rosy? the thing i find the hardest is parents who expect you to do everything,like some sort of supernanny! we are only human after all! so ten jobs all done at once and done perfectly without any complaints maybe hard for us nannies sometimes?

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mumnannymum · 17/02/2008 22:26

Good luck with the new jobs. Start how you mean to go on!!!!! Your main reason for being there is to keep children safe, happy, feed etc So if the washing and other jobs don't get done - just explain you ran out of time. As long as children are happy that is the main thing In my job I only do the washing etc if I get the time. Some days we are busy so there is no chance of getting those extra jobs done. I always tidy up kitchen and toy areas. You are only human, relax and enjoy yhe nannying

mightymoosh · 17/02/2008 22:45

im LOVING my new job! so much better than last one! im made to feel so important IYSWIM. am told im the most important staff member (part time housekeeper too) so the niggles im having with her will end in my favour! i have to admit last week was difficult- never had a 9 year old to look after (half term)

BUT mumboss tried to fill the days for me, playdates and stuff as ive not been here long enough to have any. but this week mumboss is on her schools half term so she will be around, so will be easier, just baby to care for.

baby hopefully off oxygen soon! she is only on at night now so only affecting me when i babysit. so is such a lovely girl, really happy!

eleusis · 18/02/2008 12:35

Oh, am I allowed to crash this? Congrats on the new job, Callaird. A few weeks ago we had a babysitter organised and DD said "I don't like x" (can't remember who it was now). And I said, okay, which babysitter do like the best and she sai "ummmmmm.... (long pause)... the one that ran out of petrol on her way here".

Thought you might like to know that you attained "favourite" status on one babysitting session. Did you feed her vast qualtities of treats and let her stay up late???

NiftyNanny · 18/02/2008 20:48

I am at home with ill middle child this week. He's on half term but I don't want to go traipsing around while he's still being given inhalers and so on cos his chest is so bad.

I got serious attitude from him today - 5 hours in to half term and "i'm bored - (ex nanny) used to take us to the pictures"

"yes, but we've got that planned for tomorrow, haven't we? and we're going to the museum."

I feel quite sorry for him but he doesn't really like drawing and sticking... or cooking (boring) or playing games (boring) or reading a story together ("boooooring") or even going to the park wrapped up warm.

What do YOU do with kids who are determined the only thing they'll ever enjoy is watching TV? To be honest I haven't done that badly with him today as he only watched TV for 30 mins and that was when he was waking up (he's so ill he takes a while to "come to")

Oh....... I don't know!! hahaha... he's using up all of my default craft activities, cooking activities and so on....

angisnuts · 22/02/2008 11:09

guys...as you prob read i am due to start a new job in a week,the family seem lovely,there is no housework involved( yippeeee!) and it is a sole charge position.i am happy with most things,apart from a few gripes such as money could be better and its a good hours travel to get there,but why am i getting cold feet? i am still looking on various websites every day for other positions,i just cant explain! help!

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NannyDonna · 22/02/2008 12:21

angisnuts,
i start my new job monday and i too look on nannyjob etc.i think i have got into a pattern of doing it,i have been looking for 7months!
Where did you find your job,i advertised on lots of sites but in the end Gumtree found me a job.
i will be looking after twin girls 14m, i have never looked after twins before so i am sure i will be faced with lots of different challenges.
i took my son[5]to meet them yesterday,mum took us to a twin p&t and he was really good very calm around them all.
This is a great job as its term time only so if i moan about it remind me its a good job.
enjoy your last week off

anyoneoutthere · 22/02/2008 14:34

I am so fed up with being messed around.
I was working for a single mum who was freelance. Was there yesterday and everything was fine. Got an email today saying she didnt have anymore work and so wouldnt need me anymore. Its just nonsense!!! IM SO ANGRY!!!

nannynick · 22/02/2008 15:09

So does that mean she's paying you in lieu of notice? Or did the contract not include a notice period?

anyoneoutthere · 22/02/2008 15:35

No it didnt because she is freelance. Im not angry aboutthe job finishing - im angry about the lack of communication and respect. I was there yesterday and she didnt say a word. And then to send anemail?!?! How bloody rude!!

nannynick · 22/02/2008 16:02

Maybe she didn't know she would have no more work with that particular client. Maybe she thought work was lined up with other clients, but that didn't become reality. There could be reasons why she didn't tell you yesterday.

anyoneoutthere · 22/02/2008 16:10

Why wouldnt someone ring instead of sending an email. It just seems so inpersonal

nannynick · 22/02/2008 16:20

I rarely ring anyone, always prefer using e-mail. Some of us are just like that I suppose.

NannyDonna · 22/02/2008 17:31

Hi,
could you tell me how much per mile i should charge please.
Thanks

nannynick · 22/02/2008 17:53

40p is the Approved Mileage Rate

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