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LONG POST (sorry) Mother-in-law with 6 Dogs - Childcare

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Luna1302 · 18/10/2022 17:04

Hi, sorry for the long post. I'm looking for a place to let my feelings out as it's making my mental health issues worse and I'm not sure whether it's my mental health talking or it's a reasonable issue I have and want some advice.

I was hoping to go back to work after maternity for at least two days, ideally three and even during pregnancy, my biological mum who I am close to has said she could have our son for the two days she doesn't work if that helps. Instantly I am thinking great, there are two of the days I could go back, ideally I need to find childcare for a third.

To make it fair I wanted to ask my husband's mum if she would like the opportunity to have our son. The issue is, is that she has 6 dogs. She did have 5 as one passed away but she got another puppy whilst I was pregnant which I was thinking "oh no, now a excitable puppy to train" so now she has 6 again. I have asked if she would like to come to our house but without dogs. I am uneasy around most of the dogs as they have formed a pack and compete for attention, food, toys etc. I've been bitten twice in the leg by one that is protective of their house/hallway when you walk in. My MIL has been bitten multiple times by either breaking up a fight between them (which happens a lot) or when she feeds them from the table. She has had to have stitches a couple of times. None of the dogs are toilet trained and often have accidents all over the floor, I've slipped in poo a few times when round there, the males scent up their own furniture, items that come into the house, Christmas presents etc. They don't notice some of the puddles etc. They don't anti bac or clean after they have picked up poo, and they use a cloth that they leave on the floor permanently to then spread the wee around then put the cloth back in the corner until next time. The dogs also wee/poo when she brings them all to my house when we have them over for dinner etc. They have even wee'd up my curtains.

I suffer from anxiety slightly anyway so talking to her to say would you mind not bringing dogs was a big thing for me to do as she can be fairly rude.
She has been rude to my own mum a couple of times. She found out my mum was also a birthing partner as well as my husband of course and she was angry. She told my husband the day our son was born that she feels left out and no one told her my mum would be there. I didn't forget to mention it on purpose it just never came up. A lot of people have their mum's at birth so thought she would have known anyway. My mum phoned her to congratulate her on her new grandson and was rude to my mum. My mum obviously being emotional from witnessing her daughter going through that experience etc was quite upset. I had to have my baby shower at my MIL's house as she was rude to my mum and mum had to back down from hiring a nice place/organising it somewhere I wanted. I had to stop the dogs weeing up my baby shower presents etc. She has to have her way so me confronting the dog situation to her was scary. I hate confrontation and hate making people upset.

She was surprisingly ok and said she would think about it and speak to my FIL. She phoned my husband and they didn't know I could hear the conversation as I was upstairs trying to sleep. I got the idea she wasn't happy and could hear my husband agreeing with her that I wasn't being fair not allowing her to have our son at her house or to bring the dogs to ours.

My husband spoke to me in the morning and said his mum can't leave the dogs for a day and also said if his mum can't have our son then my mum can't have him either, which has now left me to either put him in daycare for a few days but if I did that then after paying out daycare fees, would leave me with hardly anything anyway or to not go back at all but that means not having my own money and if I am honest, I was looking forward to just seeing other adults for a couple of days which I think would help my mental health a bit.

I've been the one to look after our son with very little help from my husband. He does some washing and washing up which helps me a lot and I appreciate him but he has done 7 nappies, 3 bottles, no night shifts, no babysitting. Refuses to cook for us (I can't if baby is screaming) so orders takeaways, will play games on his phone even when I ask if he wouldn't mind watching/playing with our son whilst I shower and works Mon-Fri and then manages a football team on a Saturday which doesn't stop at just the match it's obviously the admin during the week, football training in the evenings after work, getting to the game early before everyone, drinks in the clubhouse after with the team. I hardly see him to get help and when I do he is on his phone either playing games or sorting out football stuff. My mum has been my support. To tell me she can't have him so I can have a bit of a break has upset me a bit. After everything she does for us and his mum has not helped a single bit.

I am sorry I don't want our son around those dogs but I have at least offered for his mum to have him here at home. Am I being unreasonable? Any help is appreciated.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/10/2022 17:06

Leave the abusive twat and his animal hoarder mother, claim universal credit and move back in with your mum until you get your own place. Everybody that matters will be safer and happier that way.

ClemmyTine · 18/10/2022 17:09

Exactly what the first poster said.

I love dogs but wouldn't tolerate this behaviour.

H1Drangea · 18/10/2022 17:11

As above
6 dogs !
not a chance would I ever go there again , and neither would the baby

picklemewalnuts · 18/10/2022 17:12

NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/10/2022 17:06

Leave the abusive twat and his animal hoarder mother, claim universal credit and move back in with your mum until you get your own place. Everybody that matters will be safer and happier that way.

This.

Forget all the details, all the questions, all of it. No need. Just do this ^^.
Seriously.

Idontevenknow · 18/10/2022 17:15

The house sounds disgusting and no way would I let my baby go there. YANBU at all asking her to come to yours instead. Do not back down, and do not let him stop the baby going to your mother. Stick with your job, keeps a bit of independence and stops you relying on him, as you could regret this in the future.

FluffMagnet · 18/10/2022 17:16

Don't allow your baby to be anywhere near these dogs if they are already biting adults multiple times. Don't become another tragic headline. I live animals but this is horribly unsafe and downright gross. I'd ban the pack coming to my house too. Jesus, how can people live in those conditions?!

Gazelda · 18/10/2022 17:17

He's worse than a waste of space.

Your MIL is being ridiculous - it wouldn't be possible or safe to care for a baby while also caring for 6 attention seeking dogs.

Your DM shouldn't have phoned your MIL to congratulate her on becoming a grandma. That would have come across as oneupmanship.

Poor you and baby being caught up in this.

FluffMagnet · 18/10/2022 17:18

And let your mum help if she wants. Sounds like you are parenting single-handedly so take what help you can and keep your distance from the in-laws.

Chewbecca · 18/10/2022 17:19

Of course your MIL can't have your son because of the dogs.

But that doesn't mean your mum can't, it's a totally separate decision.

I would take up my mum on the offer and find a childminder for the remaining day, even better would be if your DH dropped a day and did it himself.

IWillBeWaxingAnOwl · 18/10/2022 17:21

The house is not appropriate for your son due to hygiene, exposure to feces and urine.
The care is not appropriate due to risk of biting and also that she will not follow parental guidance.

Quite frankly, if you broke up and your partner left your son with his mother, you'd be justified in calling social services. It's not just less than ideal, it's actively completely inappropriate and puts him at risk of serious harm.

Floralnomad · 18/10/2022 17:22

Your husband is a useless twat who has no concern for you , your child or your home , you need to lay the law down now that your mum will be having the baby for 2 days and going to childcare on the third and if he doesn’t start backing you up he can reconsider his living arrangements . I would say just leave him but then the issue is he gets the baby for visitation and god knows what will go on as he will obviously just let his mum look after him all the time . Why do people who can’t be bothered to even house train their dogs keep getting more , it’s absolutely disgusting and with 6 dogs shitting and pissing the house must stink .

TwoWeeksislong · 18/10/2022 17:23

No you don’t have to use nursery instead of your mum because your MIL has 6 dogs. She’s nuts. 6 untrained dogs around a baby is an obvious safety risk.
Describe the situation to your DH differently. If your MIL had a full time job she would be equally unable to look after your DC during working hours. This is the same thing. She has a pre existing responsibility (6 dogs) which is incompatible with looking after an infant. Your mum does not. End of discussion.

CatJumperTwat · 18/10/2022 17:23

Agree with everyone else. MIL and her rank house are the least of your problems. Leave this son of a bitch and I wouldn't be surprised if most of your anxiety disappears...

R0BYN · 18/10/2022 17:23

What @NeverDropYourMooncup said. Except go back to work FT and put your child in nursery the other 3 days . Put ion a claim through CMS for child support from your waste of space husband.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 18/10/2022 17:24

You have a serious Dh problem.
He should support you - not his mum.
He cares more about Mum's approval than his own child's safety.
What about him makes you want to remain with him?

I am a dog-lover and have fostered children. I noted that however hard-pressed the system is for foster-carers, they won't consider anyone with a 'pack '(more than 3 I think) of dogs. Packs behave differently and are a high risk for small children.

RunningFromInsanity · 18/10/2022 17:25

Let your Mum do the 2 days, find childcare for the 3rd day.

Realistically your husband isn’t going to leave you over this, he’s just a prat looking for an easy life where he doesn’t have to choose between you and his mother. Make the decision for him, let her blame you (because she doesn’t sound a reasonable person anyway) and keep your child safe.

Stickmansmum · 18/10/2022 17:28

Your DH is frankly useless. Useless.

And no way would I even apologise for not going to MILs house, let alone leave my baby there!

OP you have very low standards but I can clearly see you don’t realise that. I’m sure what you should do but not sure what you will do.

RoaryLion1 · 18/10/2022 17:32

YANBU at all OP. I can’t believe your DH is suggesting you leave your baby in such an obviously dangerous and unhygienic situation. He needs to stand up to his mum and start looking out for you and his baby. I would be telling him baby is going to your mums for 2 days, and he needs to manage that with his Mum. Not your job to make your MIL ok with this.

AquaticSewingMachine · 18/10/2022 17:33

I love dogs.

You'd be mad to let your baby go to this squalid, dangerous house. Negligent and barking mad. It. Is. Not. Happening. Ever.

You have a DH problem. Get back to work, leave your baby with your DM 2 days a week, and start thinking about an escape plan. Because my suspicion is you're going to need it.

Velvian · 18/10/2022 17:35

This comes up so often. HTF do the people living in the literal shithole think that they are the ones in a position to be making threats and issuing ultimatums?

The incubator has now become an errant employee and it is kicking off.

Go back to work, even if your family makes zero profit from it. Your DH already thinks he is your line manager and his mum is the ceo.

Feelinglikeachange22 · 18/10/2022 17:36

C'mon. Woman up. Of course you can't leave your baby in that shit pit with biting dogs. Are you a people pleaser? Your mistake was to ask MIL in the first place. Unless you want your baby to be mauled don't fucking do it. Tell her youve made alternative arrangements and she can fuck off if she protests. Your baby your rules.

DisforDarkChocolate · 18/10/2022 17:37

Honestly, I'd just move in with your Mum to get away from your husband and MIL.

Velvian · 18/10/2022 17:37

Forgot to add, your baby cannot be in the house with the dogs without you.

sevenbyseven · 18/10/2022 17:40

Of course your mum can still provide childcare - she's doing you a massive favour, which doesn't have to be matched by your MIL.

You have a MIL problem and a DH problem.

@Gazelda I don't understand what you mean by this: "Your DM shouldn't have phoned your MIL to congratulate her on becoming a grandma. That would have come across as oneupmanship."

dontputitthere · 18/10/2022 17:40

Your dh is worse than useless. He's told you you can't return to work because his mummy is upset

Fuck that shit

Why aren't you more angry?

Leave him. Honestly. He's your biggest problem

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