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LONG POST (sorry) Mother-in-law with 6 Dogs - Childcare

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Luna1302 · 18/10/2022 17:04

Hi, sorry for the long post. I'm looking for a place to let my feelings out as it's making my mental health issues worse and I'm not sure whether it's my mental health talking or it's a reasonable issue I have and want some advice.

I was hoping to go back to work after maternity for at least two days, ideally three and even during pregnancy, my biological mum who I am close to has said she could have our son for the two days she doesn't work if that helps. Instantly I am thinking great, there are two of the days I could go back, ideally I need to find childcare for a third.

To make it fair I wanted to ask my husband's mum if she would like the opportunity to have our son. The issue is, is that she has 6 dogs. She did have 5 as one passed away but she got another puppy whilst I was pregnant which I was thinking "oh no, now a excitable puppy to train" so now she has 6 again. I have asked if she would like to come to our house but without dogs. I am uneasy around most of the dogs as they have formed a pack and compete for attention, food, toys etc. I've been bitten twice in the leg by one that is protective of their house/hallway when you walk in. My MIL has been bitten multiple times by either breaking up a fight between them (which happens a lot) or when she feeds them from the table. She has had to have stitches a couple of times. None of the dogs are toilet trained and often have accidents all over the floor, I've slipped in poo a few times when round there, the males scent up their own furniture, items that come into the house, Christmas presents etc. They don't notice some of the puddles etc. They don't anti bac or clean after they have picked up poo, and they use a cloth that they leave on the floor permanently to then spread the wee around then put the cloth back in the corner until next time. The dogs also wee/poo when she brings them all to my house when we have them over for dinner etc. They have even wee'd up my curtains.

I suffer from anxiety slightly anyway so talking to her to say would you mind not bringing dogs was a big thing for me to do as she can be fairly rude.
She has been rude to my own mum a couple of times. She found out my mum was also a birthing partner as well as my husband of course and she was angry. She told my husband the day our son was born that she feels left out and no one told her my mum would be there. I didn't forget to mention it on purpose it just never came up. A lot of people have their mum's at birth so thought she would have known anyway. My mum phoned her to congratulate her on her new grandson and was rude to my mum. My mum obviously being emotional from witnessing her daughter going through that experience etc was quite upset. I had to have my baby shower at my MIL's house as she was rude to my mum and mum had to back down from hiring a nice place/organising it somewhere I wanted. I had to stop the dogs weeing up my baby shower presents etc. She has to have her way so me confronting the dog situation to her was scary. I hate confrontation and hate making people upset.

She was surprisingly ok and said she would think about it and speak to my FIL. She phoned my husband and they didn't know I could hear the conversation as I was upstairs trying to sleep. I got the idea she wasn't happy and could hear my husband agreeing with her that I wasn't being fair not allowing her to have our son at her house or to bring the dogs to ours.

My husband spoke to me in the morning and said his mum can't leave the dogs for a day and also said if his mum can't have our son then my mum can't have him either, which has now left me to either put him in daycare for a few days but if I did that then after paying out daycare fees, would leave me with hardly anything anyway or to not go back at all but that means not having my own money and if I am honest, I was looking forward to just seeing other adults for a couple of days which I think would help my mental health a bit.

I've been the one to look after our son with very little help from my husband. He does some washing and washing up which helps me a lot and I appreciate him but he has done 7 nappies, 3 bottles, no night shifts, no babysitting. Refuses to cook for us (I can't if baby is screaming) so orders takeaways, will play games on his phone even when I ask if he wouldn't mind watching/playing with our son whilst I shower and works Mon-Fri and then manages a football team on a Saturday which doesn't stop at just the match it's obviously the admin during the week, football training in the evenings after work, getting to the game early before everyone, drinks in the clubhouse after with the team. I hardly see him to get help and when I do he is on his phone either playing games or sorting out football stuff. My mum has been my support. To tell me she can't have him so I can have a bit of a break has upset me a bit. After everything she does for us and his mum has not helped a single bit.

I am sorry I don't want our son around those dogs but I have at least offered for his mum to have him here at home. Am I being unreasonable? Any help is appreciated.

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Riverlee · 18/10/2022 17:40

You mil doesn’t get to dictate who looks after your baby.

Accept your mothers help.

I wouldn’t want a baby left with six dogs either. I reckon if mil agrees to your terms, ie, baby at your house, she’ll end up taking dc back to her house.

Ohyoudodoyou · 18/10/2022 17:40

DisforDarkChocolate · 18/10/2022 17:37

Honestly, I'd just move in with your Mum to get away from your husband and MIL.

This will end up happening anyway but in crisis. Sorry for you and your situation but experience tells me that this will get a lot worse for you in the next few months. If you can leave, do so and you have a chance of another life, another child perhaps...otherwise you have years of misery and anxiety ahead.
He'll hook up with another gamer. He doesn't sound competent to be a father.

Yesthatismychildsigh · 18/10/2022 17:41

I’ve never known anyone have their mum as an extra birthing partner. But as your husband is so useless I’m assuming that’s the reason. You need to stop pandering to her demands, and reassess your relationship with your husband, which sounds abusing. Also, letting a baby be at a house with untrained dogs isn’t just careless or negligent. It’s abusive. If they’ve bitten their ‘pack leader’ the be under no illusion that your poor child is safe there.

SeraphinaDombegh · 18/10/2022 17:46

Chewbecca · 18/10/2022 17:19

Of course your MIL can't have your son because of the dogs.

But that doesn't mean your mum can't, it's a totally separate decision.

I would take up my mum on the offer and find a childminder for the remaining day, even better would be if your DH dropped a day and did it himself.

All this, except there's no way I'd be trusting "D"H to be able to care for his child. OP, you're being manipulated and controlled by both MIL but also your husband. Given that your husband is barely involved with caring for his child anyway, YOU get to decide what's best, not him. And if he can't make a decision with you that's best for your child, you should seriously consider leaving him. It sounds like you'd be far better off just you and DC than entangled with this toxic family for any longer.

RoseAndRose · 18/10/2022 17:49

Doggy day care is around £25 per dog - so that's £150 you're expecting her to pay to do you a favour.

Maybe better to just ask for money. Because without realising it, it would be cheaper for her to pay for daycare for the DGC than for the dogs.

Your DH sounds dreadful. Your DC's costs are joint expenses as you are both parents.

Lots of people have no grandparents to call on at all. You are very lucky to have two days covered.

Do go back to work. Unless your DH shapes up a bit, you might be glad you have maintained your income stream.

Hoppinggreen · 18/10/2022 17:53

I love dogs but like fuck would my child set foot in that house with or without me.
Also, your H is a knob bit if you split up you will struggle stopping him taking the baby there

Berthatydfil · 18/10/2022 17:55

Your baby is not a cake to be cut up and shared equally.

Your baby needs to be cared for in a safe, hygienic environment by people who care more for dc’s wellbeing and not their feelings.
Thats not your mil and if your dh cant acknowledge it hes not safe to look after dc and put them first either.
I second other posters who are telling you to ltb, his dm, her pack of dogs and unhygenic home.

forrestgreen · 18/10/2022 17:55

His mum should t have the baby

Your husband is useless

If you leave him then that sorts two of your problems out

tara66 · 18/10/2022 18:01

Does your DH and MIL know of the diseases a child especially a baby can catch from such a horrendously unhygienic, dirty, stinking place as you PIL'S house not to mention the fleas, ticks and worms? Your MIL must be very lazy and dirty - that is an appalling way to live - disgusting.

Lacey247 · 18/10/2022 18:04

I would not step foot on that disgusting house never mind consider leaving my child there. I would leave the baby with your mum for the 2 days and pay for childcare for the others. I returned to work full time after having my son and paid for childcare to do so. Yes it’s expensive but it’s what you have to do if you want to work. I wouldn’t care that the mother in law felt left out

Phrenologistsfinger · 18/10/2022 18:12

Narc MIL
useless DPwho sides with his mum over partner
man does nothing to care for his baby
Animal hoarding
pack of wild dogs…
saturday hobby taking him out all day
squalor
no is full sentence
this is like mumsnet bingo!

You do not have to say yes to any of this. Now is the time to set really clear boundaries and you must for the sake of your child’s welfare. And your own. And social services might well have a view.

You also need to retain your job for economic independence. Wishing you well!

washingbasketqueen · 18/10/2022 18:14

Let your mum do 2 days. Find childcare for the other day then start getting your ducks in a row. It's unsafe for your dc to be with your MiL with 6 untrained dogs who bite. The fact your dh doesn't recognise this risk is worrying.

Shinyandnew1 · 18/10/2022 18:20

I had to have my baby shower at my MIL's house as she was rude to my mum

I don’t really understand this?

but I wouldn’t really want to be in a relationship any more with someone who said this to me, if his mum can't have our son then my mum can't have him either

dollybird · 18/10/2022 18:26

DisforDarkChocolate · 18/10/2022 17:37

Honestly, I'd just move in with your Mum to get away from your husband and MIL.

This. I don't know why you asked your MIL in the first place.

DeeofDenmark · 18/10/2022 18:27

It sounds like you haven’t been sticking up for yourself enough. Did you invite friends to the baby shower in the house that’s full of untrained dogs?
Does your husband have any redeeming features?

FaazoHuyzeoSix · 18/10/2022 18:28

Yanbu

Your dh is being financially abusive if he is considering his salary as "his

FaazoHuyzeoSix · 18/10/2022 18:32

Yanbu

Your "d"h is being financially abusive if he considers his salary "his" rather than family money. Your time at home is enabling him to work, rather than taking his fair share of the child care.

Saying you can't have a childcare arrangement with a safe and reliable grandparent because its unfair on doghoarder MIL who doesn't seem to have a good grip on child safety is weirdly abusive and uncaring towards his own DC.

LTB

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 18/10/2022 18:36

When my dgc was born and we shared childcare with his other dgm we had 4 ddogs each! Never any issues but in your position your dc won't be safe or sanitary!
Your dh sounds bloody awful.

Queuesarasarah · 18/10/2022 18:37

Good grief. Please, please get some boundaries. If you can’t do it for yourself, do it for your son. There are so many red flags it’s hard to no where to start! But her attitude to you and thinking she can bully you into anything is enough on it’s own. Sadly whatever your husband’s redeeming qualities may or may not be, he is totally under the control of his mother. So he will either need to disengage fully or you’ll need to leave him.

Kissingfrogs25 · 18/10/2022 18:37

I didn’t even get past the title.
op you can’t ever take or leave your baby anywhere near the dogs. End of discussion.

Your baby is in grave danger with anyone willing to risk their life. I would find a good nursery and accept the help from your mother.

Kissingfrogs25 · 18/10/2022 18:37

**Risk his life

LondonLovie · 18/10/2022 18:42

Just read your post back to yourself. And again.

He's an absolute arsehole. An abusive waste of space. How dare someone speak to their partner and mother of their child like that,

Sorry OP. Your husband does not respect you. You do not need your child growing up in this abusive household. This is not how one person should treated another human being. Its disgusting.

Heavenknows22 · 18/10/2022 18:49

I don’t know why you asked your mil in the first place. You couldn’t trust her. Of course you can allow your mother to help out with childcare. It’s up to you.

endofthelinefinally · 18/10/2022 18:54

Your husband and your mother are both appalling people.
As a matter of urgency you need to inform your HV about the dogs so that the risk to your child is documented. Then you will have official support to say that your child cannot be looked after anywhere near the dogs. They will take it seriously due to the number of serious events recently.
I am so sorry.
As pp have said, you would be safer getting away from them.

Suzi888 · 18/10/2022 18:58

Your DH is honestly willing to let his child stay with his mother and the ankle biters? Seriously? 😕

Why are you with your husband, he sounds awful…. along with your MIL.