Nanny starting late, leaving early

[Whatnameisgood]

Family A and Family B have a nanny as a 3 day a week nanny share. Nanny wants to arrive 5 minutes late (9.05) and leave 5 minutes early (6.55) every day as it fits with her trains. Otherwise she’d be waiting 20 minutes at the beginning and end of the day for her trains (if she arrived on time and left on time). Family A doesn’t mind, but Family B thinks if you start at 9.05 you finish at 7.05 (meaning a 20 minute wait for the next train). Who is right?

I can't believe people are so petty as to get worked up about 10 minutes.

Happy nanny vs. resentful nanny is right.

Depends how reliable trains were for the morning one. Will the 9.05 turn into 9.10/9.15 every day because actually they are always running late.

I'm surprised people are being this petty.
It is only 5 minutes!

I get the same but the opposite. Parents working from home and come downstairs at dead on my finish time. Then they expect a handover and I'm always leaving late. It is annoying but I just get on with it.

Its 10 minutes a day! Ffs,no wonder so many childcare providers feel so under valued.

Family A are more reasonable. Family B should be aware that nannies are on high demand atm at least in my area they could very easily lose a nanny for such a petty reason

Honestly, people these days amaze me. It swings in roundabouts - one day family B might want the nanny to do her a favour, and trust me they will not want to. It works both ways.

I would want more info.

A great nanny who has worked a long time, goes the extra mile, is flexible when parents are running late. And the timings make no real difference to the family and their own travel? And nanny has a good reason why those times make a difference. Yes I would accommodate.

On the other hand a new nanny who only does the basics, has a surly attitude, views flex as a one way street and has decided unilaterally to be paid the same for less time. And parents who need to dash out on arrival and skid home for her departure when those extra mins make a difference to what trains they can make? Then no.

Nanny is BU to say she wants to work less than her contracted hours.

She could have asked to work the 10min less three days a week but to stay until 7:20 the other two days.

So 3x 10 less balanced by 2x 15 more.

The way she did it, it puts the families in the uncomfortable situation of either paying for hours she is not working or risk annoying her.

If parents are at home then yes allow

If they are at the office so they need to change coming home time then no

When she took the job on , she should have checked train times and not agreed to agreeing to be there 9 if couldn’t make it

Saying all that , a happy nanny means a lot

And 30 mins a week isn’t much

Family b - I'm assuming there's no lunch break she can shorten. A work day is a set length, being flexible with times doesn't mean overall less minutes

I'm with Family A- it's 10 minutes. If she's a good nanny and I'm happy with her work then it's nothing in the grand scheme of things. Plus it's winter so 20 mins will be awful at those times.

Family B, if you start at 9am you arrive just before then, otherwise you're not ready to actually start work then (plus your train might be late) and you leave at your finish time.

So @Whatnameisgood

Are you a b or the nanny

If nobody is inconvenienced I can't see any point in making a fuss about it. But I suppose on the face of it she is being a little bit cheeky.

What a stupid question.

Who would have another human being stood alone in a train station for 20 minutes for the sake of letting them off with 10 mins???

Are people actually that tight and anal they would do this? Honestly, people do nothing but disappoint me.

^This.

It really depends if it's just the principle, or if the 5 minutes means that family B also has to take later/earlier trains and lose maybe half an hour working time?

Thanks so much everyone - the comments and opinions are all really helpful ! I’m going to leave my own views shrouded in mystery as i might send a link to this thread to the other family as I think it’s really useful
(hint - I’m not the nanny ;) )

I take it you’re A then OP?

My first office job, they let me leave at 4.50 each day so I could get the 4.55 bus. Otherwise I had to wait for to 5.25 bus which was always late and I wouldn’t get home till after 7pm. Even office bosses can be nice sometimes.

I used to leave college 10 minutes early otherwise it meant an hour on the bus stop. Mg tutor was lovely about it. Mind you, being stood there on a cold November night when it was late spurred me to learn to drive fairly soon afterwards.

Whose house is the share in ?

Can they wait till b is back

And op

Do you and family b both work at hoke

@NoSleepInTheHeat

Nanny is BU to say she wants to work less than her contracted hours.

She could have asked to work the 10min less three days a week but to stay until 7:20 the other two days.

So 3x 10 less balanced by 2x 15 more.

The way she did it, it puts the families in the uncomfortable situation of either paying for hours she is not working or risk annoying her.

This is the solution to keep everyone happy.

@GlowingOrb

Family A is treating the nanny with respect. The kind of respect that earns flexibility and loyalty in return. Unless those minutes make a real difference to the families receiving care, they should just accept they are not part of the day.

This!! It's 10mins!!

I don't actually have a problem with starting 5 mins late and finishing 5 mins early, but I'd be concerned that this was the suggestion from the nanny rather than start late and finish late or something similar. It may depend in the way it was worded I suppose. If she's a new nanny, it may indicate that she doesn't really consider it important if she's there on time because you're home anyway, watch for the 9:05 sliding into 9:15 and be ready to pull back immediately if it does

Family B is right.
And 20 minutes is nothing to wait for a train,if it was an hour plus the nanny might be reasonable to add but to ask to work less ( even if its only 10 minutes) because you don't want a 20 minute wait for your train? I'm