Nanny starting late, leaving early

[Whatnameisgood]

Family A and Family B have a nanny as a 3 day a week nanny share. Nanny wants to arrive 5 minutes late (9.05) and leave 5 minutes early (6.55) every day as it fits with her trains. Otherwise she’d be waiting 20 minutes at the beginning and end of the day for her trains (if she arrived on time and left on time). Family A doesn’t mind, but Family B thinks if you start at 9.05 you finish at 7.05 (meaning a 20 minute wait for the next train). Who is right?

Family B

No one is right or wrong but if both families like her 5 mins in a morning and 5 minutes an evening doesn't make much difference. Could she takes 10 mins out of her lunch to make up for it?

As long as it doesn't inconvenience you, I couldn't get worked up about this.

I don't think you could take 10 minutes off lunch - nannies don't really get lunch breaks, or who would look after their charges in the middle of the day?

Seems unreasonable to expect to work 10 minutes less a day, unless wages are adjusted.

Family A is treating the nanny with respect. The kind of respect that earns flexibility and loyalty in return. Unless those minutes make a real difference to the families receiving care, they should just accept they are not part of the day.

Family A's method is more likely to have a compliant nanny that stays with them longer. However Family B are technically right.

Would suggest the nanny take a small pay reduction or loss of 1 day's holiday to make up for it.

Family A, especially in these uncertain times. I think a bit of flexibility on everyone's part has to be made regarding work at present.

I'd accomodate a 10min reduction on a 10 hour day No problem. Especially if it removes the need to loiter in the dark at a train station.

I wouldn’t lose a good nanny over ten minutes a day. Maybe she should do 9.05-6.55 two of the days and the third day should be 9.05-6.25. Then she’s done the full three days and doesn’t have to wait for any trains.

Quite surprised the nanny has brought this up.
20 minutes for a bus is hardly a long time!

Fag packet exercise:-

£15ph for 30 hours per week = £23,400pa

If her wages are adjusted to reflect the 30mins per week reduction:

£15ph for 29.5 hrs per week = £23,010

So a saving of £16.25 per month per family.

Hardly seems worth docking the money - I'd rather have a happy Nanny.

Family A are being fair, maybe you could cut the salary by one hour a week if family B feel really strongly about it.

What a stupid question.

Who would have another human being stood alone in a train station for 20 minutes for the sake of letting them off with 10 mins???

Are people actually that tight and anal they would do this? Honestly, people do nothing but disappoint me.

If it was my nanny I would say that’s absolutely fine, but on occasion I may be little late finishing work and on those days I’d expect you to stay a bit late to cover and get the later train (obviously if I’m very late then I’d pay extra). This would balance out the 10 min less on “normal” days.

Or have a regular arrangement where she finishes 15 min later on two of the days to make up for the 10 min less on three days.

It depends whether you actually need her for that time, or whether you'd rather have an irritated, likely to leave nanny hanging around for 10 mins/day to satisfy your jobsworthy technicality

Family A. Nanny needs to think carefully about working with a family like Family B.

I can’t believe family b would
Even argue the fact.
It’s 5 mins at the start of the day - 5 mins at the end - barley noticeable! And would make a big difference the nanny’s already long day. Wouldn’t want to work
For them. Doubt she will for much
Longer either,

@AbbeyBelfast I cannot believe some of the replies on here. Mind boggling.

Family A are showing a bit of consideration, which will likely lead to a good relationship with the nanny, and loyalty on her part.
Family B aren't showing the same consideration for her personal safety (having to wait around train stations), and five minutes morning and evening won't really make much of a difference to the family, but will make a big difference to the nanny.
If I worked for inflexible family B, I might soon look for another job; one where I felt more valued and appreciated.

[quote DfEisashambles]@AbbeyBelfast I cannot believe some of the replies on here. Mind boggling.[/quote]
Isn't it awful? Shocking that someone would happily have someone lose 40 minutes of their day so they can save 10 mins of theirs. People are gross.

Unless this makes a difference in terms of making it harder for the parents to get in the door at the end of the day, family B are being pathetic. I would maybe suggest that it is tried and see how it works. I would imagine the start time is more of an issue as if the train etc is late, she will be very late for work and not just 5 minutes whilst an earlier train gives more of a buffer.

Technically Family B are right. I just hope that they work exactly their contracted hours and not a minute less if they are holding the nanny as accountable.

Speaking as an ex-nanny, I agree with PP about family A having a nanny that feels valued and respected due to that approach. She's far more likely to be flexible if you ever need her to stay late if you are flexible to accommodate her not needing to stand on a freezing platform for 20 minutes in the dark.

I have had both types of employers. There were some that I'd go above and beyond for. And others that I did exactly what was in my job description and did not offer flexibility when it came to hours.

Family a is right

Family A, happy Nanny.
Family B , resentful Nanny.

Isn't it awful? Shocking that someone would happily have someone lose 40 minutes of their day so they can save 10 mins of theirs. People are gross

Agreed. Family B are twats and must be awful to work for!