this isn't right is it?

[nappyaddict]

my friend has just started looking after her goddaughter. she has her full time in her house and her friend pays her for it. she says her friend (who used to be a childminder) said cos she wasn't advertising as a childminder she wasn't classed as one so didn't need to be registered with ofsted. now i thought anyone who looked after a child in their own house and was paid for it had to be registered? i don't want her to get into trouble cos her friend told her the wrong information!

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you're right!

It may be best to mention it to your friend otherwise some nosey busybody with nothing better to do might report her and then you would feel bad. The only way round it is to look after the child in their own home then its like a nanny.

just say to her, although youre not interfiering, you wanted to let her know she does have to be reg if shes getting paid as she never knows someone on school run/neighbour, could be funny and report her, plus they are notinsured for it.

i've told her but she's adamant her friend must be right cos she used to be a childminder. c

what is the inscucrance?

sorry for some reason my keyboard keeps typing c's. hope you can understancd!

she has to be insured to have this chld in her house, if anything was to happen she wouldnt be coverd..go to ofsted site and print her of the details of becmoming reg and show her that her 'friend' is wrong!

covered for what though?

accidents to the child/death{sad], they MUST be insured for this.

What would happen if the friend had an accident in her car - and she didn't have the correct car insurance (ie business cover as she is being paid to look after the little one)

What would happen if the little one had a serious accident, and the parents wanted compensation?

You never know what might happen, so better be safe than sorry.

ah right got ya now. i've told her to ring up about it. i was amazed her friend who used to be a cm told her that she would be ok.

Liability insurance / Indemnity insurance.

Also no doubt she wont be registered with the Inland Revenue. Very sticky!

Sally

Don't need to be registered to care for a relative I believe. However, not sure a God Daughter is counted as being a relative - it's not link a grandmother caring for a grandchild.

Anyone know if a GodDaughter is counted as being a relative?

Ofsteds Guidance
says you don't have to register if you are a parent or CLOSE relative.

I don't think god-daughter would count.

does this apply for evening baby sitting

i quite often babysit for children of my parents friends who i know well in my house, especially if they are going out in the town where I live. Where doi stand on this?

Says it does n't apply if exclusively between 6pm and 2am. Sometimes relatvies are Godparents but not all Godparents are relatives iyswim . I'd think "close" wodul be Aunt/Uncle , Brother/sister, Grandparent etc

Does your friend want to make it formal though? She won't be able to look after this little girl if she has to register as a childminder first, and it is her goddaughter. Does she want you to do this, or would she regard it as interfering?
I have had serveral people look after my dd with no special insurance!

I know Nick would be able to find the relevant standard form Ofsted but Im not good at that, but as we are told it as CM's it is illegal to look after a child in your own home for more than 2 hours at a time for more than 6 times a year, without being registered. It is not only to do with the insurance, but also, child protection and first aid, plus all the relevant standards you must be up to, to look after a child.

The only childcare dd has ever had has been illegal!

ha Nick! managed to find it myself
www.ofsted.gov.uk/assets/Internet_Content/Shared_Content/EYD/Files/infoForParents&CarersUsing Childcare.doc

You see this is where I feel that all the laws we have are just ridiculous. If you have chosen someone as a godparent (and who potnetially even lean up as legal guardian after your death), then to have the governement interfere in terms of standards of care is just intrusive. I can see that it is diffierent if the government is directly subsidising the care thorugh nursery vouchers or childcare credits, but it is still highly intrusive. Especially as registration etc wouldn't be required if she looks after the child in the child's home (which presumably holds similar H&S dangers etc).

How old is the child - is there by any chance an exception when the child is of a certain age. Otherwise she can get round this by having the child's home as the primary place where care is given but of course every good cm and nanny will have lots of activities outside the home....

At the moment over 8's dont have to be registered , but that is coming in as well, and if the primary place of care is the carers home no they have to be registered

The rules are strange, she obviously feels better leaving her child with her godmother than a childminder/nursery and why shouldnt she be able to do this?

Grandparents, aunts, friends look after children all the time with no insurance so dont really see the relevance in it.

i think it is stupid too but i don't want her to get into any children. the baby is 9 weeks old and will be their full time.

would a cousin be classed as a close relative? my cousin has offered to have ds instead of me sending him to a nursery but i said no cos i thought she'd have to register with ofsted and it seemed a lot of hassle.