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I too have a (lovely but) lurking au pair!

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Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 21:42

She is very nice! She is so wholesome! Her whole family hang out ALL THE TIME together in the sitting room at home! They hate privacy, in fact, what is privacy? They never just sit in their rooms or need any time off from family life! They love to chat! All the time! Au pair is in most ways adorable and working through some Big Themes (you know, just turning from a teen into a proper 20something - she is actually a 20something but feels more like a teen/Anne of Green Gables due to aforesaid Walton-like home life) and follows me around wanting to Discuss It All*.

*I really get this but this is why I lived with a bunch of like-minded peers at this age and Discussed It All nightly over wine and fags and music etc.

Clearly I am a fucked up individual with a bitter stonelike heart and a fractured family background, but to be fair all of my other au pairs have been same and have tacitly understood 'be an au pair and be like a member of the family' to mean 'come and provide reasonably well-paid childcare for not too many hours and spend the rest of your time out on the razzle and/or establishing some kind of online empire from your room, where we never enter.'

This one I think is so sweet that she actually wants to BE one of the family and follows me around talking. Also she has the nicest heart and is a good egg but very dappy, and so I feel like her best friend/mom/therapist in one (in fairness her mom is also her best friend and therapist, and also lives in my home via constant skype/video link.) God I'm such a bitch. i just have nothing. left. emotionally. to give. at the end of the day with work/kids/DH away all week.

Anyway, the result of all this is that I lie with the kids until they're asleep, which does take ages due to one of them having a slight sleep issue, then it's ME who skulks off to my room and scurries about furtively. Meanwhile, au pair has whole run of sitting room and kitchen EVERY WEEK NIGHT.

I would say something, but as I was thinking how best to, she was telling me something other about her truly heinous ex employers (they really were very exploitative) and she said, 'And another thing, Jill would be like really firmly and meanly, "Jack and I really need to have a couples date night. Can you go hang out in your room?" Isn't that AWFUL? They were so mean, I would sit in my room all on my own and cry.' And I was like, 'God, that's awful, what a bitch.' And now I'm all 'I. AGREE. WITH JILLLLLLL.' Aargh.

So I am sitting in my room all alone and almost crying (not really) and she is ensconced on my nice sofa in my sitting room. I mean, she would love it if I came down and we, I don't know, watched Dirty Dancing and made s'mores but I just can't! I need space.

She is so lovely, it's like kicking a (quite thick-skinned) puppy!

She is very nice and trustworthy and yes, I am very lucky and we are 3/3 the favourite employers and not at all mean. I mean I really can't think of a way to say, 'sometimes it would be awesome if you wanted to hang out in your room', I know that. I just needed to rant.

If cherry of the lurking au pair could come and commiserate that'd be nice.

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Ohyesiam · 18/06/2018 22:25

Oh god i feel
Claustrophobic just reading about it. That would drive me insane.

Couldn’t you cope without her! Or with a normal teen?

NonnoMum · 18/06/2018 22:32

It's just tough. Suck it up.

Don't be such a meanly.

CanIBuffalo · 18/06/2018 22:42

It would Drive Me Insane.

Watch out though, once she's twigged that you're sloping off for some headspace in your room she'll come a-tappin at your door for company.Grin

HollowTalk · 18/06/2018 22:48

There's just something about an enthusiastic and happy person when you're trying to relax that makes me want to lash out and scream.

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:54

Oh god Nonno, you're right, I am really mean.

I feel so much better now though.

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CAAKE · 18/06/2018 22:54

'I. AGREE. WITH JILLLLLLL.'
😂

skulduggeryintheshrubbery · 18/06/2018 22:55

You and DH are going to have to become nudists. Couple of nights, hanging out in the lounge/kitchen with it all hanging out should do the trick. Watch her run for the hills Grin. Though this could backfire and she could decide to become a nudist too, just to fit in with your lovely family.

TolstoyAteMyHamster · 18/06/2018 23:03

Oh. This. We had this. It was head meltingly awful because I couldn’t be mean and couldn’t stand up for myself, so I became snarlingly nice and seethed inside. I drank a lot then she left and the children cried and I danced a happy jig. Next au pair never left her room except to do the school run and answer the door to her Deliveroo deliveries, which annoyed me in all sorts of other ways. I concluded I am not suited to au pairs and now the children are feral and fend for themselves.

NonnoMum · 18/06/2018 23:07

and now the children are feral and fend for themselves

hahahaha

NonnoMum · 18/06/2018 23:08

I understand though. It's easier to risk your children's well being than to face anymore childcare decisions...

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:10
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Furrycushion · 18/06/2018 23:11

I feel your pain, but isn't that why au pairs au pair, so to speak? To live with another family, learn the language etc etc? Boot her out & employ a surly teenager. I have some I can send you & I promise they will only come out of their rooms to feed. In fact they wouldn't do that if I didn't force them to!

Purpleneonpinkunicorns · 18/06/2018 23:13

Another vote for Jill,
Jill won't let you down,
Jill will be straight to the point and usher new family member upstairs or outside.
Grin

Iflyaway · 18/06/2018 23:17

Sounds like she could be a master manipulator. She’s got the run of the downstairs!

This ^^

Who the fuck comes into your home and starts taking over the living space? That is really weird.

Sorry OP. This is a lesson in assertiveness for you.

"Speak your truth with loving words."

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:19

I think there's two reasons they au pair, one is 'I need somewhere safe and reliable to live and I quite like kids and people and this family sounds reasonable and there's a great night life locally so... I guess they'll do'.

The other is 'I love kids! And people! I am excited about being part of another family and learning their ways, and telling them (lots) about my culture!'

The second are in many ways the most laudable. However.

Just to add I am normally counted as an extrovert 'people person' and specialise in working with / managing difficult characters. Maybe it's her that is normal though, and somewhere along the 'having small kids' tunnel I just became a bitter viper.

Furrycushion they sound delightful, clap yourself on the back for a job well done. Au pairs are as pp have noted hot currency these days so if you agented them out could be healthy business sideline for you?

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theconstantinoplegardener · 18/06/2018 23:20

Have you tried giving her a chore
every time she appears? "Oh Laura, could you just empty the dishwasher for me...put this basket of washing on...run the vacuum cleaner round the living room for me? ".

She'll soon start hiding in her room!

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:22

Do you know what, I actually wonder whether ifly and pp have it. I don't think she intends it, but we have definitely moved to working around her a bit.

I am normally so assertive! I am from a culture known for not shying away from confrontation! What has happened to me! Broken.

Okay I am actually taking all this on board.

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TheVanguardSix · 18/06/2018 23:25

and now the children are feral and fend for themselves
**

Grin Grin Grin

No need to google! Just ask Jill how it's all working out for her with her feral lot. I bet they're doing great!

Flowers for you, OP. There's no easy fix for this. I mean, it's all great to say, "Time to be assertive, OP." But the reality is different.

DickensianHysteric · 18/06/2018 23:28

You do write well, OP. So play to your strengths - tell her that on certain evenings you will need the living room to yourself because that's where you write your novel. The muse will not visit if anyone is chatting, so it would be best if she could arrange to be somewhere else. You can get away with a lot under the guise of being a creative genius. Wink

LemonysSnicket · 18/06/2018 23:29

I didn't even like it when my mum was always in the living room with me... is she English?

TempleOfBlooms · 18/06/2018 23:29

This was me with our first au pair. And as she was our first I thought it must be normal and the trade off for the childcare. So for a whole looooong year we chatted and traded confidences and hung out all evening long.

And then finally the year was over and I released her into the world of uni. And she spread her wings and... started texting me constantly. Like 50 texts a day. With every ducking detail of her new life. Three years later and she still texts most days and is always threatening to visit. She’d be here four times a year but strangely we are usually away when she wants to come so we are down to one visit. And I tolerate that because she is lovely and deserves a host mum who sees her as a fifth child.

I now only recruit party girls who show at interview a desire to go wild with friends. With them my free time is safe.

Hulah00pie · 18/06/2018 23:40

God. Can I be your au pair? I promise I won’t be a limpet. Where is this cheap and vibrant and lovely for young people place you speak of?

ohdearwhatcanthematterbee · 18/06/2018 23:45

Can you and your husband start having pretend fights in front of her? That will hopefully get her to avoid you!

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:50

I can’t tell you as I am already waiting for front page headline of ‘FRIENDLY AU PAIR LIVING NIGHTMARE on the mail and then my dad or similar to walk in somehow holding it and it to fall open and her face to see it and the realisation dawn... ‘you’re... you’re MEANER THAN JILL???’

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junebirthdaygirl · 19/06/2018 00:03

I get palpitations reading your account. I thought l was bad with a cleaner who leaned on thr brush and told me all her marriage difficulties for half an hour..every week. My ds who was 12 at the time said she should be paying you for therapy.
Can you gradually pull away from hearing her woes. Very unprofessional to talk about pass families. Have you a friend with an aupair who could call round and bring her out.
Much sympathies.