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I too have a (lovely but) lurking au pair!

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Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 21:42

She is very nice! She is so wholesome! Her whole family hang out ALL THE TIME together in the sitting room at home! They hate privacy, in fact, what is privacy? They never just sit in their rooms or need any time off from family life! They love to chat! All the time! Au pair is in most ways adorable and working through some Big Themes (you know, just turning from a teen into a proper 20something - she is actually a 20something but feels more like a teen/Anne of Green Gables due to aforesaid Walton-like home life) and follows me around wanting to Discuss It All*.

*I really get this but this is why I lived with a bunch of like-minded peers at this age and Discussed It All nightly over wine and fags and music etc.

Clearly I am a fucked up individual with a bitter stonelike heart and a fractured family background, but to be fair all of my other au pairs have been same and have tacitly understood 'be an au pair and be like a member of the family' to mean 'come and provide reasonably well-paid childcare for not too many hours and spend the rest of your time out on the razzle and/or establishing some kind of online empire from your room, where we never enter.'

This one I think is so sweet that she actually wants to BE one of the family and follows me around talking. Also she has the nicest heart and is a good egg but very dappy, and so I feel like her best friend/mom/therapist in one (in fairness her mom is also her best friend and therapist, and also lives in my home via constant skype/video link.) God I'm such a bitch. i just have nothing. left. emotionally. to give. at the end of the day with work/kids/DH away all week.

Anyway, the result of all this is that I lie with the kids until they're asleep, which does take ages due to one of them having a slight sleep issue, then it's ME who skulks off to my room and scurries about furtively. Meanwhile, au pair has whole run of sitting room and kitchen EVERY WEEK NIGHT.

I would say something, but as I was thinking how best to, she was telling me something other about her truly heinous ex employers (they really were very exploitative) and she said, 'And another thing, Jill would be like really firmly and meanly, "Jack and I really need to have a couples date night. Can you go hang out in your room?" Isn't that AWFUL? They were so mean, I would sit in my room all on my own and cry.' And I was like, 'God, that's awful, what a bitch.' And now I'm all 'I. AGREE. WITH JILLLLLLL.' Aargh.

So I am sitting in my room all alone and almost crying (not really) and she is ensconced on my nice sofa in my sitting room. I mean, she would love it if I came down and we, I don't know, watched Dirty Dancing and made s'mores but I just can't! I need space.

She is so lovely, it's like kicking a (quite thick-skinned) puppy!

She is very nice and trustworthy and yes, I am very lucky and we are 3/3 the favourite employers and not at all mean. I mean I really can't think of a way to say, 'sometimes it would be awesome if you wanted to hang out in your room', I know that. I just needed to rant.

If cherry of the lurking au pair could come and commiserate that'd be nice.

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SingingTunelessly · 18/06/2018 21:47

This would drive me totally insane. Sorry not helpful but I feel your pain. No idea what you should do though. Confused

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 21:47

No, no, that's exactly what I need to hear, that it is not just me. Grateful thanks from my student-style bedroom.

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Postymalone · 18/06/2018 21:48

Sack her or tell her to stop following you around.

QueenOfThorns · 18/06/2018 21:50

I have nothing helpful to say, I just found your post hilarious, sorry OP Grin

I would feel exactly the same in this situation, though!

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 21:52

I can't sack her for being extremely friendly? She is also extremely trustworthy and honest etc.

But yes, you busted that I don't even so much want an action plan as a rant with everyone going 'oh poor you, that IS annoying.' Grin. Away with your constructive, decisive advice.

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QuintessentialShadow · 18/06/2018 21:56

Does she have a tv in her room, along with computer and internet access?
Have you provided her with a mobile phone, and travel card to get around? Encouraged her to join clubs, courses, and learn something?

theyoniwayisnorthwards · 18/06/2018 21:58

Nothing helpful to add either except to say that what you describe IS annoying and you aren’t a bitch. I wouldn’t be able to say anything to her either though, sounds like it’d be like kicking a puppy. Your post made me actually lol OP

SlowlyShrinking · 18/06/2018 22:00

Yes, definitely annoying. Doesn’t she get lonely in the sitting room though? Why would she only get lonely if in her bedroom? Or is she guilting you into letting her take over your sitting room? 🤔

Spanglyprincess1 · 18/06/2018 22:00

Maybe you could encourage her to have a hobby??

Jammycustard · 18/06/2018 22:03

Sounds like she could be a master manipulator. She’s got the run of the downstairs!

Boomboomboomboom · 18/06/2018 22:03

If she eats all your naice ham, she was once my au pair. I got good advice on here and let her go. Essentially she became my Xth child and I felt like I was allergic to her - even the most innocuous ythings made me irritable. She was a lovely girl at heart but my life was stressful enough without having to mother/best friend her too.

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:05

There is no connection for TV in her room, this is true, but she doesn't watch TV that much anyway? Glued to phone. She has computer, fibre optic, own phone, she is very highly paid for this role, I definitely encourage her into everything which is great for weekends. Interestingly though she has been in the country a while and she has people she hangs out with at various groups, she hasn't found like a best mate (we live in very friendly, fun, cheap city with big social life) which other au pairs did (because there is a big culture of young, semi-transient people around). So it's a bit chicken and egg, maybe she's using us as emotional crutch because just hasn't found that soul mate to hang out with, or quite possibly hasn't found the soul mates because she can be a bit thick-skinned and oblivious to social cues.

Yip, volunteered to pay for her for a course, she's not massively keen, I have the prospectuses open on the other window to try and find something to tempt her.

There is literally nothing else I can do I don't think apart from rant on here. She's with us for another six months, and I actually do very much appreciate that she is a hardworking, dependable person who I do very much like... it's just that my other au pairs slunk off asap when they could, and I did likewise when I was an au pair, so I had slid into complacency.

I'd rather rant on here and let off steam than badmouth her to e.g. friends or whatever. Do you know what I mean?

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madcatladyforever · 18/06/2018 22:05

I agree with Jill too.

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:06

Yes boomboom that's it. Exactly.

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Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:06

I actually love you guys.

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Madmarchpear · 18/06/2018 22:06

Yes get rid. A half arsed parent and family orientated young woman will never click.

Elementally · 18/06/2018 22:07

You need to 'help' her by getting her to enroll in a sport, class or hobby of any sort. She needs some friends that take her out of the house.

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:08

Oh God now I sound crazy. It's just so cathartic to let it all out and not just be like 'yes! she's super! Great girl! We're very lucky!' which I am like to outside world.

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LOliver123 · 18/06/2018 22:09

You will have to say something to her - or you will go completely crazy!

GuntyMcGee · 18/06/2018 22:14

Sounds like hell OP.
There is nothing worse than having someone else, especially a relative stranger, invading your space.

Can you somehow fashion a voodoo doll?
Or maybe slip some laxatives into her food so you'll at least get a reprieve while she's locked on the loo for a few hours? Ps I am joking I'm not

MyDcAreMarvel · 18/06/2018 22:15

You don’t need a connection for a tv just buy an amazon fire stick. You can watch freeview and you tube or also Netflix and prime.

Boomboomboomboom · 18/06/2018 22:15

I felt a total bitch letting ours go but honestly the sense of relief when she was gone, and to get, for want of a better word, a 'normal' au pair was amazing.
I did everything you did and the reality was she was a family home bird, in my home with my family. I'm sure that works for some but it didn't for me.
I felt suffocated.
Seriously, this won't get better. Unless you think better the devil you know, I'd look elsewhere...

acornsandnuts · 18/06/2018 22:17

Be like Jill

I too have a (lovely but) lurking au pair!
LadyLance · 18/06/2018 22:19

Would she join a sports team that trains on a weekday evening? Might give you a bit more time to yourself?

Or maybe just frame it as like an introvert vs extrovert thing (I think this is all bollox but it might work without offending her) that sometimes you need some down time to recharge in the evenings even though she doesn't and it's not that you want to send her to her room but maybe sometimes you just need a little space from each other.

FWIW I agree with Jill too.

Namechange128 · 18/06/2018 22:20

This is totally not helpful in any way, but you write really well, that was very funny to read.

More practically - I'd sit down with her and talk about what family means to you, and set some clear guidelines. I come from a big chatty family and it (embarrassingly) it took a really long time for me to work out that some flatmates just want to cook for themselves only and / or eat in silence etc Blush.

It is mean if you send her off to her room half way through what she sees as a nice conversation but not if you establish in advance that Tuesday and Saturday evenings you and your husband would like to spend a few hours with just the two of you and could she please arrange to be upstairs / elsewhere. Could you set some super clear ground rules and see how this works? Depending where she's from, clear hints to you might be indecipherable for her.

If nothing like this works then another placement might suit better. You can't be on edge all the time in your own home - and she also sounds like she might fit right in for example in a large family where they're more used to being on top of each other, and if she hangs around in the evening she'll learn her lesson quickly by always getting roped into helping with the washing.

Warning though, my friends are having nightmares sorting au pairs at the moment, numbers are way down with Brexit so she may hold all the cards here!

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