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I too have a (lovely but) lurking au pair!

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Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 21:42

She is very nice! She is so wholesome! Her whole family hang out ALL THE TIME together in the sitting room at home! They hate privacy, in fact, what is privacy? They never just sit in their rooms or need any time off from family life! They love to chat! All the time! Au pair is in most ways adorable and working through some Big Themes (you know, just turning from a teen into a proper 20something - she is actually a 20something but feels more like a teen/Anne of Green Gables due to aforesaid Walton-like home life) and follows me around wanting to Discuss It All*.

*I really get this but this is why I lived with a bunch of like-minded peers at this age and Discussed It All nightly over wine and fags and music etc.

Clearly I am a fucked up individual with a bitter stonelike heart and a fractured family background, but to be fair all of my other au pairs have been same and have tacitly understood 'be an au pair and be like a member of the family' to mean 'come and provide reasonably well-paid childcare for not too many hours and spend the rest of your time out on the razzle and/or establishing some kind of online empire from your room, where we never enter.'

This one I think is so sweet that she actually wants to BE one of the family and follows me around talking. Also she has the nicest heart and is a good egg but very dappy, and so I feel like her best friend/mom/therapist in one (in fairness her mom is also her best friend and therapist, and also lives in my home via constant skype/video link.) God I'm such a bitch. i just have nothing. left. emotionally. to give. at the end of the day with work/kids/DH away all week.

Anyway, the result of all this is that I lie with the kids until they're asleep, which does take ages due to one of them having a slight sleep issue, then it's ME who skulks off to my room and scurries about furtively. Meanwhile, au pair has whole run of sitting room and kitchen EVERY WEEK NIGHT.

I would say something, but as I was thinking how best to, she was telling me something other about her truly heinous ex employers (they really were very exploitative) and she said, 'And another thing, Jill would be like really firmly and meanly, "Jack and I really need to have a couples date night. Can you go hang out in your room?" Isn't that AWFUL? They were so mean, I would sit in my room all on my own and cry.' And I was like, 'God, that's awful, what a bitch.' And now I'm all 'I. AGREE. WITH JILLLLLLL.' Aargh.

So I am sitting in my room all alone and almost crying (not really) and she is ensconced on my nice sofa in my sitting room. I mean, she would love it if I came down and we, I don't know, watched Dirty Dancing and made s'mores but I just can't! I need space.

She is so lovely, it's like kicking a (quite thick-skinned) puppy!

She is very nice and trustworthy and yes, I am very lucky and we are 3/3 the favourite employers and not at all mean. I mean I really can't think of a way to say, 'sometimes it would be awesome if you wanted to hang out in your room', I know that. I just needed to rant.

If cherry of the lurking au pair could come and commiserate that'd be nice.

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LankinMcElf · 19/06/2018 00:08

No bugger else gets the privilege of sitting on MY sofa, watching MY tv in My lounge after my dc &DH have gone up the wooden hill to blanket land!
She does sound good hearted but you really need to set some boundaries here!
I really need quiet ‘me’ time at the end of the day.
You are not her mum, you are not her mate, kindly let her know this

AlbusPercival · 19/06/2018 07:10

Can you sign her up as a brownie leader or something? She sounds perfect and would get her out at least one night a week?

underneaththeash · 19/06/2018 12:13

Something to add to your list of requirements next time???

OVienna · 22/06/2018 13:48

I have no advice for you - just an observation. And a bit of my own rant.

We had an AP leave early this year. She didn't integrate at all. For example, it transpired she didn't celebrate birthdays (not a religious reason) so she wouldn't even do things like come down for DDs birthday meal and cake. It took me a while to pick up on certain ideas she had because her English wasn't very strong and even then it was a bit like: hmmm...do you really mean that??? Lived her life on line -curated Insta, etc. Very odd.

When she was leaving my husband and I realised it was actually quite scary how little we felt we knew her and as such about her.

We used to always insist on meeting the parents before and I've gone back to that now (and younger APs.)

I think you can draw boundaries. We've been able to over the years by spelling things out up front... Start gently and always be kind about it but be consistent. Giving her a job is a good idea so she doesn't only associate you with socialising - if she's chatting while watching you run around.

littlemisscomper · 23/06/2018 21:52

Do you have any friends or acquaintances who also employ an aupair, who could be persuaded to befriend her? Maybe you could quietly pay for them to go bowling together or something. Hopefully if she makes local friends she'll take to going out in the evenings.

As a live in nanny, I have to say my personality is just the opposite! I'm afraid my employers find me churlish because after handover I just want to shoot off on a power walk and then disappear into my bedroom until after they've eaten and vacated the kitchen, when I slink down and have my tea. Obviously I'm always polite and have a smiley, open demeanor during the day but in the evening I just want to turn my brain off without making chitchat.

Granolabear · 25/06/2018 11:43

littlemiss we could be made for one another 😍

JohnHunter · 27/06/2018 00:29

#IAmJill.

Pengggwn · 29/06/2018 19:51

I hates these threads. If you don't want someone to act 'like a member of the family', don't hire an au pair as cheap childcare. The deal is, they act like a member of the family.

OVienna · 29/06/2018 20:20

Don't read them then!

Pengggwn · 29/06/2018 20:26

Right... Yes, just don't read anything you disagree with... Hmm Let's for a moment try to put aside the fact that I don't know beforehand whether I will agree with it or not, and jump straight to the idea that I can read and comment on whatever I want to. Okay?

AgentHannahWells · 29/06/2018 20:37

I feel for you OP. There is only one solution, you have to let your DC stay up later for board game time in their bedroom with the au pair.

Then you get peace downstairs. I recommend Monopoly, that takes hours. Also Mousetrap seeing as the set up takes so long.

underneaththeash · 30/06/2018 07:29

Penggwn - but that isn't how a member of the family behaves in most families.
I wouldn't want to spend every day with my husband following me round yakking at me, never mind the kids or au pair.
Its quite normal to want a bit of space, hosting an au pair does not remove your rights to either private time with your DH or time by yourself.

Pengggwn · 30/06/2018 10:12

Underneath:

but to be fair all of my other au pairs have been same and have tacitly understood 'be an au pair and be like a member of the family' to mean 'come and provide reasonably well-paid childcare for not too many hours and spend the rest of your time out on the razzle and/or establishing some kind of online empire from your room, where we never enter.'

Nor is this. The OP wants cheap childcare. An au pair isn't meant to be cheap childcare.

Whipsmart · 30/06/2018 10:41

Maybe you and your dh could have a "date night" while she's in the living room with you? She might get the hint and slink away if the two of you are all over each other Grin

OVienna · 01/07/2018 14:58

@Pengggwn how about offering the OP some practical advice based on your experience of hosting au pairs? Not a load of "shoulds" based on theoretic knowledge, but actual day to day advice of how to handle it?

That would be great and super appreciated.

That's what we all try to do here and sometimes we feel the need to let off steam. It's not an easy relationship to manage. Some start off like the OPs current AP bur most drift towards precisely what the OP described in my experience of 9 years hosting au pairs They make friends and go out and generally have a blast and become less interested in the family over time. Few I hope are as rude as the last girl we hosted who seemed to have the idea our house was an Airbnb that she got paid to live in. Our current one is a delight and has been away with us twice and is sitting in the back of the car now as we speak.Completely different experience.

There is no indication here the AP is working 40 hrs a week looking after an infant. Give the OP a break seriously.

cherrypipp · 02/07/2018 18:00

Hello! It is I, the original mindf*cked lurkee!

Yeah, totally feel your pain. It's awful. Mine used to stand in the girls' room while I tried to talk to them about something and just watch me, smiling at me. She told me her best friend just wanted to f&&k her Christian boyfriend. I used to hide in my room too and run past her if I saw her to try and avoid any sort of interaction. Horrendous. I had chest pain from the stress of her.

The difference is though that your au-pair sounds like she's doing a great job. Mine was utterly hopeless. I would ask her to give the kids a bath with the non-slip bathmat, Oilatum and then wash with Dove. I swear, I was delighted that she remembered the water. She was useless. USELESS. Blood pressure rising as I type. She finally quit after she told us she didn't feel welcome and left us 7 bags of rubbish in her FILTHY room. Among the rubbish, I found cigarette butts and have since seen her lurking around my little village chuffing away on fags to her heart's content (on trips presumably to visit her friends here from the town in the North where some poor unfortunate has employed her as an aupair, doubtless on the basis that I was monster b*tch and she is amazing and doesn't smoke). Hmmmmmmmm, never-ending cough and laryngitis as an asthmatic. What on earth could exacerbate that?!

Anyway, there is a happy ending. I have another girl now who is WONDERFUL! Smart, lovely and loves my kids. And is really bright. My shoulders have dropped about 10" from somewhere above my ears!

Advice?? You have to just tell her. You can't skulk around your home. Just something nice along the lines of, I'm going to do some meditation now in the living room, I'll see you tomorrow, night night. Or just come straight out and say that you need some more space. Tell her that a large part of the au-pair experience is to make friends and experience the culture here. Not to hang out with people old enough to be her ma. Good luck. Message me if you like xxx

Echobelly · 02/07/2018 21:34

Thus far our au pairs have been older and had their own social life, which has really suited us, wasn't planned, that's just how it worked out... current one has just given his 2 weeks' notice tho!

So we have no experience yet of providing a 'family type' set up, and last time more or less vetoed anyone who said they'd really like to be part of the family and do everything with us, so yes, I am of the mean stone-hearted club too! Well, tbf, we don't want to take on anyone who might be miserable with us. I have chatty kids so a really chatty ap would drive me round the bend.

First ap we had an easy relationship with and had some nice chats and laughs, current one tbh we haven't had so much to say to each other, as bless him, he's not the sharpest tool in the box.

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