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P*ssed off with au pair - am I overreacting?

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Mumpbump · 02/05/2007 10:19

Our au pair didn't come home last night and sent us a text at 23:30 saying she had missed the last train home from London - 45 minutes before the last train left! She was watching the football which finished at 22:30 so there is no real reason for her not to have made it home.

I'm irritated because I feel that we have been very accommodating and helpful to her generally and she has lied to us which is completely "disrespectful". It is not the second or third time she has lied to us, all about silly things. She is meant to be leaving at the end of the month so there is an issue about whether this is a sign of things to come, but do you think it would be unfair to ask her to go sooner in the circumstances? Or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?

She looks after our ds for the whole day on Mondays, but we have someone else lined up to take over anyway. I feel leaving ds in the care of someone who is not honest is questionable, but again wonder if I'm being overprotective...

Any comments welcome! Thanks...

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WanderingTrolley · 02/05/2007 18:59

I think you and she are just a bad match.

She sounds a bit too slack, and has taken advantage where you've been generous.

You may (to her) come across as controlling which, as many of us agree, has brought about the lying.

At least two of us have said she may have misunderstood when the last train was, Aloha has posted some very wise words, and my latest thought is that if her English isn't all that great, perhaps she was unable to text accurately: I am going to miss the last train because I am at the pub and it's rammed, I'd like to finish my drink and then go back to my boyfriend's house.

I think you've been very calm and gracious where some of us have disagreed with you, fwiw. Really wish you the best with the nanny. If she can start now, yes, ditch the au pair.

ScottishThistle · 02/05/2007 19:05

Mumpbump, good luck with your Nanny...I assume she's live out?...If your Au-pair only been with you 8mths & already annoyed you thus far I guess it's not a bad thing she's leaving.

ScottishThistle · 02/05/2007 19:10

FWIW she may not have intentionally stayed shorter than she agreed (though agreeing to 2yrs is very rare), sometimes things change & perhaps she realised she wasn't cut out for living-in.

It takes a lot of qualities plus give & take from both Nanny & Employer to make live-in work, especially with a more mature Nanny.

Mud · 02/05/2007 19:13

an au pair itsnt suppsoed to look after a child for logner than 4 hours a day i thought

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Mumpbump · 03/05/2007 10:10

Well, we didn't speak to her last night as dh came home and said that his colleague (who she had been helping out as a second job) didn't want her to help anymore, so I didn't think it fair to hit her with a double-whammy! Anyway, I've now emailed her and asked her if she would like to finish earlier since without the second job, she is likely to get very bored just doing the hours we need her to do.

Feeling less p*ssed off about the lie, although still not super happy, but I'd still rather she left earlier and maybe there is some element of me looking for a reason to ask her to go. We're not that happy with her general performance and it has got worse in the last couple of weeks. For example, when she first started looking after our ds, she cooked him a proper meal for his dinner; last Monday, he got bread and jam for dinner which I would not have thought anyone could really consider a healthy meal for a toddler! Plus, I got home a bit early one night last week and heard her through an open window speaking to him very sharply which made me wonder how she usually dealt with him in our absence. So you see, there really are a lot of other things going on in the background and I can see how if you look at this incident in isolation - which is how I wrote the OP - it might look unreasonable.

I agree that a 27 year old is very different to a 19 year old, but because ds was 9 mo when she started, we wanted someone who was more mature. But I would also expect somebody who was older to let me know if she did not like any of our rules. The funny thing is that I copied the house rules from another MN thread and that was the only reason they included a rule that she couldn't stay away overnight unless agreed (or whatever it said - can't remember exactly now). I would never have thought of it myself, but could see that it had its advantages from an employers' point of view!

Blueshoes - thanks

Scottishthistle - the new nanny is live-out. She is also 27 and has her own daughter who comes to work with her. I like the idea that ds will have another child to play with until his baby brother/sister arrives! I agree 100% that living out is so, so much easier.

Mud - you are correct that it is not recommended for an au pair to look after a child under 3 for long periods of time, but when we took her on holiday with us at Christmas, we could see that she was very patient and competent with ds and the fact she was that bit older meant we were happy that she was capable of being entrused with his care. Also, she had been with us 5 months by the time she started looking after ds on Mondays.

Pointydog - I say "in loco parentis" because it is a common phrase. I am only 5 years older than her so am clearly not in a parental position, but I do feel responsible for her as the person who brought her into this country... The first time she went up to London for a weekend, I was extremely nervous for her as her English was virtually non-existant - we didn't realise how bad until she arrived! London is big place and she couldn't even have asked directions to a train station if she got lost. Obviously, after a couple of trips, we were happy that she could find her own way around and her English has improved no end as a result of having an English boyfriend.

Marathon post... If you're still reading - thanks for bothering and well done for getting to the end!

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Mumpbump · 03/05/2007 10:12

And thanks to everyone else who wished me luck with the new nanny!

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ScottishThistle · 05/05/2007 06:20

Obviously there was a lot more behind the original post & now I don't find you quite so unreasonable!

I hope the new Nannies fabulous in every way!

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