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Thomas' story - long

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Marina · 05/09/2002 20:28

This is a long post, and sad, so I apologise in advance if it upsets anyone. It was helpful for me to write it, I have to say; and I sincerely hope that in future it might be of some help to someone facing the same situation as us - this is what happened to us after our second trimester baby died in the womb.

Thomas was born at 12.55am on the 25th August. As some of you might recall, I had already started havering about VBAC, so I am proud of the fact that in the end I got through his birth (with wonderful support from dh and our midwife) on just gas and air. I decided I wanted to try and give him the birth I'd have tried for if things had turned out differently. I do also react badly to morphine both physically and psychologically, before anyone thinks I am a complete masochist.

I was admitted Saturday morning and finally went into the Delivery Suite at 10.50pm. During the day I was given two lots of prostaglandins vaginally, and then one lot by mouth. I only had major contractions for about 2.5 hours.

Thomas was very small and fragile, so although we were able to see him and spend time with him, it was not possible to hold him or dress him which we had been told we might be able to do. He was very beautiful to our eyes but at 20 weeks did not look as though he ever had much of a chance. We have some photos and a smudgy set of footprints. We chose the name Thomas because it had no family resonances (nor did we know any little Thomases), but when we met our dear boy, he was so small all I could think of was Tom Thumb. The hospital wrapped him in a shawl we had brought for him, and supplied a tiny Moses basket for him.

I was out by late morning the next day. While there, we saw at least three people who looked after us when DS1 was born, and they remembered us (or said they did), which was very kind. The hospital relocated in 2001 and the new building has a special room for people in our situation, endowed by parents who went through something similar last year. So for all of the time except for three hours in delivery, we were in a quiet room, aside from the main action, and equipped with its own bathroom, a double bed, CARPET, TV, fridge, sink, kettle etc, and a sofa. Not unlike a Travelodge, to be honest. We had plenty of company when we wanted it, as staff kept popping in to chat, and one-to-one care right through the night.

I will never forget the midwife who helped me deliver Thomas. She only qualified last year and her chosen speciality is helping young single mums on two local estates with severe social problems. She was simply wonderful. The hospital also has a new, pilot project which funds a part-time Bereavement Midwife. We had to wait over a week for her to come back from leave, which was hard, and if I?m honest, there were times when I felt abandoned and forgotten after we were discharged from hospital. But we know about the terrible staffing problems there and we know the intentions were always good. When we finally met the Bereavement Midwife it was like meeting the best sort of well-informed old friend. She knew ALL the answers to ALL my questions ? and being an A* nosy parker I had a lot of them.

We decided to have a postmortem for Thomas and that has now been done. We will get the results, along with all my test results, at the beginning of October. We have only a 50/50 chance of finding a definite reason for his death, which is one of the hardest things to take at the moment.

In the meantime we are planning a service of thanksgiving for him at our parish church. We have friends (one of them is married to the Assistant Parish Priest who will conduct the service) who have been through similar hard times and they have helped us with making arrangements. Someone had to tell us that with very small bodies a lot of crematoria will not supply ashes, and I?m glad that someone was not an undertaker.

I am so relieved and touched that throughout what we went through Thomas was referred to as our baby and not a miscarriage. He had his own hospital notes and ID tags, despite what we all knew in advance. I'm up and down emotionally, as you can imagine, I don't need to say more than that. Physically I'm OK and recovering well. I didn?t get any milk, thank goodness ? at nearly 21 weeks it can go either way and no-one could predict this for me.

Life goes on at home. DS1 took the news (simply told in response to a question) sadly but was playing cheerily with Brio ten minutes later, which we found reassuring given he is only three. He has been such a source of comfort to us ? we had his picture with us in hospital to remind us of what we had to be thankful for back at home, and that what happened to us last month (it feels like 1,000 years ago sometimes) is NOT the way it usually is.

As others have said on this site, you find out who your fearless, committed friends really are when the chips are down. Our house and phone have been shunned as though plague-stricken by some people whom we had hoped would ring or even e-mail. Other friends have been fantastic. I implore all Mumsnetters who might ever have friends in our situation, don?t hesitate ? pick up that phone. I can almost guarantee they will be touched and delighted to hear from you, even if they are not up to talking much.

And all the messages posted about Thomas here have helped so much too. We will be printing them out to add to his Memory Book. Every evening (and there have been some) that our home felt like a place of doom, it was cheering to remember that so many people were thinking of us ? and the Slagging off the Childcare Gurus thread brought a smile to my face when nothing else worked! Thank you all.

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Enid · 05/09/2002 23:05

Dear Marina, how much you have moved me with that beautiful story. Thomas couldn't have been more loved and wanted and you should always take comfort in the love you felt for him. I'm sure he felt it too. Lots of love E xxxxxxx

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Chinchilla · 05/09/2002 23:06

Marina - I didn't post on the other thread, because, like most people, I feel unsure what to say. I cried reading your posting, and just wanted to let me know how much it touched me. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Chinchilla

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jemw · 05/09/2002 23:12

Marina

Thinking of you and all your family, Thomas's story was beautiful but sad to read. You have gone through a terrible time and if it has helped you feel better to write it down do not apologise for making others feel sad about it.

I am glad all the messages have helped in some way,
Janh, liked your quotation as well
and second Jaspers idea about a tree to remember Thomas by.

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Deborahf · 05/09/2002 23:13

Dear Marina - I read the other thread about Thomas, but didn't know what to say; still don't really know. But I think you have been so brave to share your story about Thomas. Thinking about you and your family.

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thumper · 05/09/2002 23:14

What a lovely idea Jasper. Sorry to hijack a little bit but when I had a miscarriage (at eight weeks, nothing like what happened to you Marina) dh bought a little berry bush and planted it in memory. It is now beautiful I now have my fabulous daughter but every time I look at it I remember my little baby, and I know it means a lot to dh too.

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Glee · 06/09/2002 00:17

Marina, Thank you for sharing Thomas' story. Your love for him shines through with every word and I appreciate your willingness and bravery in sharing your experience with us. Sending my love and comfort to you and your family.

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Joe1 · 06/09/2002 02:03

Dear Marina, I cried while reading your post. Little Thomas will always be with you. Take care x

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SueDonim · 06/09/2002 06:15

Marina, everyone's been so eloquent, I'll just echo their messages, and add that I hope one day soon the sun will appear again from behind the clouds for you and your family.

Sue
xx

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Azzie · 06/09/2002 08:10

Marina, thank you for telling us about Thomas. On a difficult morning you have reminded me just how precious my two children are. My thoughts are with you and your family.

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karenanne · 06/09/2002 08:53

marina,words cannot express how thomas's story made me feel for him and for you and your family.i suffered a miscarriage quite early in my 1st pregnancy and the loss then was hard to bear,i cant begin to imagine how you must be feeling right now.
my cousins wife has been through this a few times and we as a very close family have supported them as best we can.it seems when this sort of thing happens that people think they shouldnt talk about it but they should it helps to talk.many think they dont know what to say but they dont really have to say anything,listening is the best thing in the world.in times like this it shows who your friends really are and they'll always be there for you no matter what.when sarah(my cousins wife )was going through this ,she would visit me many times just to talk it through,i didnt say much ,nothing i could say would make it better but i listened and she said that alone helped,i was pregnant myself last time this happened and although i felt awkward she didnt ,she felt alittle better just knowing i would be there for her.a couple of her friend were pregnant at the same time and didnt even phone when they heard...she said it made her feel as though they could 'catch' her bad luck.

i guess what im trying to say is,talk and talk all you want because there are people that know what youre going through and it does help even if just abit.

thinking of you karenanne

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Croppy · 06/09/2002 09:02

I can't add anything to the sentiments here but would also like to say that your presence is missed.

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jessi · 06/09/2002 09:10

Marina
Thank you for telling us all about little Thomas. I am so very sorry for you and your family. Take care, Jessi xx

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Mopsy · 06/09/2002 09:35

Dear Marina, I think someone already said what amazing parents Thomas and ds1 have, but I'll say it again and wish you all much, much love. Mopsy and family xxx

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Willow2 · 06/09/2002 09:39

Marina - just want to echo the sentiments expressed so far. Thank you for posting Thomas' story. I think you have been extremely brave to put it all down in words. A friend of mine lost her baby a few weeks after he was born and she found real solace in writing down all her thoughts and putting together a memory book. I am sure your postings will help anyone else who goes through a similar loss, but most importantly I hope they help you at this horrible time. I am thinking of you and your family, and - of course - Thomas. Lots of Love xxx

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tiktok · 06/09/2002 09:41

Marina, Thomas was so loved, and you will never forget him. Thanks so much for your story.

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Ems · 06/09/2002 10:30

Oh Marina, its so sad. Not an experience I can imagine at all. It is so true what you say about picking up the phone if somthing like this happens to someone you know. The silence can sometimes be too painful.

I thought the reason for choosing Thomas's name was very sweet. Go steady, take care and I hope each day gets a tiny bit easier for you. Lots of love xxx

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Snugs · 06/09/2002 10:32

Marina, love and hugs to you and your family.

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21stcenturygirl · 06/09/2002 10:39

Marina, I can only echo what everyone is saying in that Thomas' story bought tears to my eyes. However, being a very special Mum that you are, you have made Thomas' memory so beautiful.

I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through at the moment but, as a member of Group B Strep Support (gbss.org.uk), I read many sad stories like yours. I think you are absolutely right to have a postmortem for Thomas and if Group B Strep shows up in either Thomas or yourself, then you will find all the support you will ever need from GBSS.

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winnie1 · 06/09/2002 10:57

Marina, my heart goes out to you and your family, thinking of you all and especially little Thomas. Much love, Winniex

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emilys · 06/09/2002 11:10

Dear marina, like everyone i else - i have shed a tear for you and your family whilst reading thomas' story. You strike me as being incredibly strong and courageous, to make the decision to go through the birth as you had originally planned is quite remarkable. I wish the best for you all, ds sounds like he is a very lucky boy to have parents like you. xxx

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katmam · 06/09/2002 12:34

Thank you for sharing Thomas' story - it has brought tears to my eyes. We are thinking of you and your family at this sad and difficult time. xxx

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Mooma · 06/09/2002 12:56

Dear Marina, thank you for sharing Thomas's story with your cyber-friends here. I'm so glad you have your ds to hold and help you through. All my love, Mooma xx

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lulu40 · 06/09/2002 13:06

I wish you and all your family so much happiness for the future. Thank you for sharing your story with us you are a very brave lady. Love and best wishes to you and yours xx

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