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Your child freedom formula / child anxiety programmes - thread 2

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Psuedoshoes · 24/06/2021 17:27

Carrying on the discussion of YCFF and other similar programmes...

Link to previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/child_adolescent_mental_health/4239684-your-child-freedom-formula-has-anyone-tried-it?msgid=108493516#108493516

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Mibb2 · 03/09/2021 21:27

This is a thread where anyone is free to post. No one is stopping anyone from getting help.

Personally I believe no company or organisation should be above scrutiny especially those that deal with children's mental health.

SwanShaped · 03/09/2021 21:53

Interesting mumma that you’re saying to avoid here at all costs, while being on MN yourself. What bits of the company do you recommend?

TeenMinusTests · 04/09/2021 09:21

@Mummab2 I would think a lot of people on this thread would be very pleased to hear from parents whose child has undergone the programme for a number of months, and who are not affiliated with the company in any way.

We would like to hear factual information on the kinds of advice given to both the parents and the child. Specific things to try, advice given etc, and how that helped your specific child.

What tends to happen is either people post within a week of signing up (and then say 'it is too soon for much progress') or they make a very emotive post about how wonderful it is, without actually saying anything tangible and claim that anything tangible would be too 'outing' for their child.

Contrast this with others, who either explain how they were subject to hard sell, or are perfectly able to explain what other therapies etc have helped their child (or otherwise).

I started off entirely neutral. But I am far more swayed by calm rational information than I am by emotive torrents.

(Plus, why should something legit need to keep changing its name?)

TeenMinusTests · 04/09/2021 09:26

and claim that anything tangible would be too 'outing' for their child or that it is 'far too detailed / complicated to explain'.

SwanShaped · 04/09/2021 09:58

For me that’s been the most annoying thing. ‘You wouldn’t understand.’ I’ll give a go understanding anything. Especially if it meant that I knew about a new 100% guaranteed cure for anxiety.

SwanShaped · 04/09/2021 10:00

And I’m also a bit doubtful of someone who doesn’t know how to spell CAMHS (although does now) and can’t say bulimia. Doesn’t give me much confidence in their knowledge base.

SwanShaped · 04/09/2021 10:04

Also haven’t seen any evidence base, as this slide from the webinar says there is. Or any proof!

Your child freedom formula / child anxiety programmes - thread 2
Your child freedom formula / child anxiety programmes - thread 2
Mibb2 · 05/09/2021 16:23

The Peaky Parents website www.peakyparents.com/ is being updated with lots more content. It looks like Sam has taken a lot of tips from these Mumsnet threads, as it all looks a lot more professional than the old site. Hmm

TeenMinusTests · 05/09/2021 16:43

Are you allowed to take reviews from another company (YCFF) and use it for your new one (Peaky Parents) ?

GoodButNaughty · 05/09/2021 17:01

@TeenMinusTests I can’t see what they can’t use their own reviews; it’s for the same product (service?) after all I presume. Interesting that they’re making things more professional (not before time!). I’ll have to check it out...

TeenMinusTests · 05/09/2021 17:07

But if it is a new company/branding, with no reference to the old (as in it's not like they are saying 'Starburst, the new name for Opal Fruits') it seems a bit off.

SwanShaped · 05/09/2021 18:39

Yeah, I think there should be reference to the old name. I’ll check out Peaky Parents new update.

ConcernedObserver · 05/09/2021 19:17

The 'design' is just a rehash of a previous Robins venture: www.anxietyfreeyou.com - It seems they failed to build a business offering anxiety relief to adults, much more lucrative to target the desperate parents of suffering children.

I'd be amazed if it ever contains any substantial content, genuinely helpful information, or importantly - the cost. Just a place where they can post some fancy words and a tool to get you on the 'phone where the hard sell will start.

Mibb2 · 05/09/2021 20:11

I guess by 'professional' I just mean that it doesn't look such a mess as the YCFF site, and so it's not as easy to spot immediately that it's dodgy.

They have stopped sharing all the names and kids details, and taken away some of the 'hard sell' type language. That worries me because the more legit it looks, the more likely people are to be sucked in.

Mibb2 · 05/09/2021 20:16

swan and teen - Sam mentions YCFF a lot in the videos. Lots of them are the same videos from the old site.

SwanShaped · 05/09/2021 21:35

Yeah, I agree mibb. But I’m hoping at least this thread will come up in a lot of searches. It’s always bloody mumsnet that comes up when I look for stuff.

It was all making me wonder too about the high ticket coaching academy. And whether they do any due diligence about the businesses they are helping to learn how to promote/advertise. I guess they don’t. High ticket coaching academy just take any customers, regardless of their business model, and teach them how to make £££.

SwanShaped · 05/09/2021 21:38

It’ll be interesting to see what the conditions explained links are when they come up.

SwanShaped · 05/09/2021 21:42

I had to look up Globus Hystericus. The first page that came up was a Linden project one. Which I think is what their work based on and is also controversial

Comfysofa78 · 05/09/2021 22:42

I was a little concerned at the condition listed as loss of libido on the teenage anxiety solutions website 🤯😵

SwanShaped · 06/09/2021 07:28

God I hadn’t noticed that!! Bet it gets taken down now you’ve said that.

Chelsea541 · 06/09/2021 08:52

I have no idea how Mumsnet works and who is seeing my reply, but I too have had a an amazing journey through using Peaky Parents. After five years struggling to find proper help for my son, which I personally found wasn’t out there through the numerous other routes we had tried, both through the NHS and privately. Some probably got us through the weeks but none made me ever feel like this is behind us until I found them. In my view, amazingly dedicated, clearly hardworking staff who supported and guided us through every step. I feel light again, my mind is not caught up constantly about how I’m going to help him. The route back wasn’t easy, it was time and headspace consuming but we stuck with it and life is so much brighter. I’m not a social media user normally, I don’t trawl the internet on this subject anymore looking for any answers or solutions to my sons issues with anxiety, I don’t need to as we are busy just getting on with life. Someone had mentioned ‘mumsnet’ and negative comments on it to me, so I was intrigued to find out what anyone could possibly say that was negative about them. Most threads I have read just show natural suspicion, which I can completely get when you see ads on the internet. I can’t see much substance though in the odd comment from anyone who has signed up and used them. I don’t want anyone to think you sign up, pay and job done. Their mentor helped my son, dramatically. But, it is definitely a commitment on the parents part as well, obviously a monetary commitment, but also their time, their focus to learning and putting new approaches into practice. Having had two older siblings already flown the nest, I felt my parenting skills were alright. I’d made those changes needed for parenting a young child to those needed to parent a teen and beyond. Throw anxiety in the mix though and what to do for the best wasn’t always clear as the day to day tasks of getting in to school, or even just getting up, became a problem. They gave me my confidence back in what I was doing, whilst they taught him. It wasn’t always easy, it was very much a commitment for the passed 10 weeks (I’m guessing without getting the calendar out!) but it was so worth it. Having tried everything else out there (for 5 years! That seems ridiculous now), I knew nothing else out there was anything like a permanent solution. Early on I felt we’d found the right support, and my resolve to see it through was strong. None of this is rocket science (and I say that about ‘everything’ we have tried) but in my experience and belief from where my life is now, it does need the ‘intensive’ (not just an expensive counsellor/therapist once a week or the CAMHS 10xCBT sessions and then off you go) approach offered by this programme and their huge level of support and guidance. If you go this route, really commit to it and stick with it - with their teachings, help guidance and constant support, it very much worked for us.

Like I said, no idea who will be able to see this…. maybe it’ll just be the person who is also reaping the rewards of being with Peaky Parents… if so, hi and I’m pleased you found them too. X

TeenMinusTests · 06/09/2021 09:04

@Chelsea541
That was an extremely long post. However it pains me to say it, but just like previous proponents of YCFF/PP it says more or less nothing apart from the fact they have been supportive.

In the time/length it took you to write that you could have written something substantial about the advice you are being given.

Why is it that time and time again supporters of YCFF/PP seem unable/unwilling to actually write anything of substance?

Chelsea541 · 06/09/2021 09:18

Crikey. OK, I’ll not take offence as I am imagining you as me months ago in my search for proper help. I did try and type a very detailed description of what the program entails over the weekend, but it either timed out or I may have gone over some word limit. Is there anyway I can type it on word and attach it here?

Chelsea541 · 06/09/2021 09:20

There is inevitably a lot the goes on in an intensive program, difficult to summarise it in bullet points.

Chelsea541 · 06/09/2021 09:21

Kids start back at college tomorrow, so busy rest of day will check back tonight