Something like a Pallas? But RF?

[FanjoForTheMusic]

Hiya, DD is just about to grow out of her infant car seat. I like this because there's no need to keep re-belting, and it'll last a long time. Is there something along those lines but rear facing?

Don't think so but if you get a Britax Two Way Elite then it is harnessed till they are really big so will fit for ages.
The real RF experts will be here soon.
I have a Besafe Izi in our car and a Pallas for granny and granpas to use.
DS loves being RF in our car as he is high up and can see out the windows but equally loves Thge pallas ion granny's car.
We haven't mastered not re beltining the Pallas yet still have to re-threadit every time.

no, because it relies on the seatbelt to keep the impact cushion in place.
if it was rear-facing how would that work??

all ERF seats are harnessed as far as I'm aware :)

You can use the Kiddy seats with the impact cushion in cars which have rear-facing seats e.g. some vans and people carriers. This is stated in the manual (as I have one).

But other than that - as TIY says, the impact cushion is held in place by the seatbelt, so it wouldn't work.

I see the impact cushion seats as a sort of in-between option on safety terms for FF and RF. I'm not sure exactly where they come on the scale between them. They all have very good SI protection, which some of the RF seats don't, and they avoid the problem of children being able to unclip themselves (because they can't physically reach once fastened in the seat) or get their arms out of the harness, as there isn't one, so this might tip the balance in favour of the Pallas for you.

Thanks everyone.

Bertie, do you know which RF seat has good SI protection?

Am I right in thinking that car seats are designed with front impact collisions in mind? Does anyone know how the RF seats measure up in terms of a rear impact?

Cheers!

I don't, sorry. I can't drive and use several cars so RF was never an option.

With rear impacts the force is a lot lower because you're already travelling, so it's not as dangerous. I don't know the exact figures though.

fanjo, it's probably worth checking out the rearfacing.co.uk site/forum as they have all the safety tests from scandinavia on there.

you can't really compare a frontal collision in a FF seat with a rear collision in a RF seat

the forces involved are highly unlikely to be the same.

if 2 cars travelling at 30mph have a head on crash then the combined force from the collision is 60mph.

if you are travelling at 30mph and someone going 40mph goes into the back of you the force is only 10mph.

even if you were stationery you would need someone to be travelling 60mph when they hit you to involve the same amount of force. and even then it would be different as your car would not be moving itself... iyswim?

I don't think that SI protection is compromised in a RF seat at all. From memory both the besafe izi seats and the britax muti-tech scored highly for side impact protection