WHY HAS MY POST ABOUT COW & GATE COMFORT FIRST MILK BEEN REMOVED?????

[Schmauskin]

Just sharing the fact that it has really helped one of my twins sore tummy - I thought it was ggod to share tips but mumsnet seems to have removed my post???!!! Very vexed at this, as it does not seem in the spirit of the site. Sorry I bothered to write considering the limited time I have available whilst caring for my 13 week old twins and 5 year old.....

MNHQ - its a different subject, obviously, but similar principle - but why haven't these posters here been pulled up on blatantly advertising on a thread? Surely there isn't actually a MNer called Mirafit?

I know its impossible to keep an eye on all the threads, and I appreciate the differences, that obviously you can advertise slimming pills, but not first formula milk, but seriously - a poster called Mirafit?

I thought you had to do things like this in classifieds, for a price, rather than on a thread for free ?

lonely I suspect no one has hit "Report Post" but someone on that thread should have.

I expect it'll disappear soon... no we all know about it and all

The tone of your original post was so enthusisastic and full of !!!! and capital letters that it looked like one of those posts which are all over the internet, from people paid in money or in kind to deliberately market products Schmauskin....that's all.

It sounds as if your motives were genuine, and I for one have no problem with people recommending particular products from their own experience, even formula; but I'd not like to see the forums containing endorsements for anything at all that are not genuine - and I suspect this is why it was pulled. There is also the law, which proscribes advertising of infant formula, and I expect, as has been pointed out, mumsnet HQ did not wish to fall foul of it.

I don't think you need to take any of this personally - you wanted to help and you ended up sounding like a marketeer in your enthusiasm. It was just a mistake.

have you checked your junk mail?

I would entirely agree with you edam about C+G making it up as they go along. When I posted last night I was tired and didn't word my post very well. Was just trying to say that this is what the C&G reps are coming out with when asked (I am guessing this is what they are told to say). I cannot believe tyhat C+G did all the research and own it - loads of stuff has pre and probiotics added - am not sure why C+G have gone wholesale for this when others have not.

There does seem to be a difference between what various milks have added to them but whether or not one addition to a milk makes babies more comfy than another addition I don't know. Just saying that some parents have told me that C+G formula suits their babies well when other's have not. Personally C+G did nothing for my DS when I tried it as a failed breastfeeder. He was very uncomfortable on it but twas 6 years ago now.

You mean you weren't being paid by a marketing company to write that?

I'm amazed. Sorry, but it really, really looked like an advert. And we do occasionally get people posting like regular people but who are doing so to sell something.

I'll hold my hands up and say that I was among those (there was at least one other person) who reported your post. And I did so because I genuinely believed it was an advert. I had no doubt it was at all.

Since it seems it wasn't, I'm very sorry.

OP yes it did look like an advert I'm afraid.
I don't think posts about formula brands mentioned during threads get pulled it was more because it was the title of the thread and in capital letters.

Glad your baby is sleeping better.

fox I'm also a harper on-er about Nutramigen btw..

Aptamil does contain pre and probiotics, I think most of them do.

The thing is with recommending formulas is that each baby is different. C&G gave dd1 terrible wind, but Aptamil suited her. Aptamil gave dd2 horrendous diarrhoea, and farts from the devil, and because I thought it might be the pre/probiotics I went with Hipp (which doesn't have them) and she was fine.

I have seen other posts where people say their lo has done well on a particular formula (I have written similar myself), and not seen them pulled, so it must have seemed like an advert.

Several formulas have prebiotics in them (I don't think any available in the UK have probiotics) and the precise combination of whichever one is used is indeed owned by the companies and not shared. So the C&G reps were sort of right, JollyPirate.

Formula is a commercial product - just like any other industrially-produced and packaged food and drink, the 'recipes' are not shared with competitors. The slight differences in formulation are presented as significant in ads in healthcare professional journals. The differences have to be slight, as all formula has to be produced within legal parameters to be approved for sale...no manufacturer could start selling something way out.

I think it's likely that some formulations suit some babies better than others, though there is no independent research on this. Breastfed babies get 'tailor made' milk whose exact fat content and antibody content and volume and flavours and so on is unique to them and changes as the baby grows. Formula fed babies get the standard product every time, so it makes sense to accept that even slight differences in taste and ingredients may be significant to some of them, some of the time.

The research on specific 'comfort' and 'easy digest' milk brands is not in the public domain (though low lactose formulations and the addition of prebiotics have been shown not to affect growth adversely). I think it should be - commercial interests be damned. If something has been shown to be beneficial to formula fed babies, in general, then it should be in all formulas. If it only affects a few, then parents should know that, too.

If I was a formula using parent, I would be very cross that all I can go on is trial and error and the anecdotes of other parents

I always thought c and g and aptamil were the same as I knew that they were made by the same company, but I ran out of c and g one day and the shop near me only had aptamil and the baby refused it.

Ive been lucky that when Ive switched from bf my babies have been fine on the milk Ive picked, but if they weren't I would want to know what had worked for other parents.

No, they're not the same, pippel...there is a slight diff. in the amount and type of prebiotics, according to the ads in the healthcare professional journals.

what ever the diffrence is dd2 knew and she wasnt having it!

OP, I also reported your post as to me, it smacked of advertising in your style and language used. I am sorry you were only trying to help others but it did genuinely look and read like an advert for infant milk and you have to appreciate that MNHQ could possibly have been in terrible trouble if it was deemed as advertising for infant formula!
I do think you are taking this all rather personally. It was a mistake, move on and if you want to advise others then great but possibly rethink your posting style and thread heading if starting another thread such as the one pulled!
TBH if I saw another post in same style from anyone, I would also report! (MY DS is FF so I am not anti-FF before I get accused of it)

I have come across this post while doing a seach about C&G not agreeing with my baby and trying to find out if other mums had experience the same. My son was purely breastfeed until he was 11 months (he is now 13 months). I first used aptamil and it seemed to agree with him. I switched to c &g two weeks ago as it is cheaper but since then he has lots of wind, stomack noises and very runny yellowish poos. Has any of you had the same problem? It seems that I will have to buy the Aptamil again.

Yamimar different formulas affect different babies in different ways, so it would probably be best to stick with the one you know is ok. However if he is 13 months he does not need formula at all - he can have whole cow's milk which is much cheaper than any of the formula brands.

actuall this was very definitely an add - the full name of the product in capitals in yout thread titleds makes this one pretty close to an advert also.

necessary? i think not.

if someone was asking it woul dbe fair to answer with 'his worked well for me..' but this whol ething looks like someone has paid you to advertise your product. Those that reported the thread need not apologise - i doubt journos are above taking money for advertising after all - their job is to put column inches next to advertising space!

This is an old thread, the OP has long since flounced...