Breast Feeding on Coronation Street - Negative ?

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Did anyone see it last night. Shaun talking about his new baby and Violet breast feeding ?
I admit I wasn't paying total attention, so may have missed bits, but it seemed really negative.
Same old, same old. When are we going to have a postive storyline ?

but (and i know its not in the same league before anyone jumps on me) they don't show drug use without following the story through. they dont show murders, attacks, robberies without the perpetrator being punished. they dont show unsafe sex without consequences. why shouldn't they show bf-ing as being the most positive choice for mother and child. it is possible to do that without preaching

no scottishmummy, but people are influenced by soaps in the same way that they are influenced by advertising.

do you really belief RL actions are determined by dramatic representations?

Are more people clambering to have a baby with their single homosexual friend just because violet did?

have the goths dyed their hair blonde and had an affair with a teacher because gail's daughter did?

there is no definitive evidence that tv influences behavior. studies are inconclusive and often contradictory.

I wasn't too impressed on Seans views, I think they should have said nothing at all, as appossed to something negative. Bf stats in England are the lowest in europe, negative comments wont help. Specially the 'boob flopping' comment. Women are self consience (sp) enough as it is. Without it being driven home with a comment like that .

scottishmummy, more women do get help as a result of dv storylines.

more people do have check ups as a result of health storylines.

soaps DO have an effect on their viewers.

I agree.

I think we should also be asking if Corrie has portrayed artificial insemination techniques (via turkey baster) in a positive/negative/accurate light..

mines on order purplemonkey! violet obviously did it right to get knocked up 1st go with only one tube!

sorry, puppymonkey.

ffs, what is wrong with me?!

Purple? Purple? How VERY dare you? Lucylou......

tbh as someone that almost didn't bf as i felt so she about feeling like i was flauting my body, the comments made my blood boil, saying flopping them out is totally out of order, we need bf in public normalsing ffs

shy

many politicians eg Nicolae Ceauşescu,Leonid Brezhnev,former USSR all used tv to portray a false positive eg life is great, the policies work.Did the people believe them? did Lech Wałęsa? emmm no because humans have volition, free will, higher executive functions. they don't necessarily believe everything they see on tv. But according to the premise asserted here, then yes they do. Really the masses are not likely to pontificate about BF because of what Sean (a fictional character) said.

Violet got up the nelly duff 1st go with the turkey baster- ohhhhh really.

doesn't matter,switch off and switch off.you attribute too much influence to something that is actually very inconsequential.

do you want to go be a lesbian staff nurse
or boff your BIL because you watched EastEnders

soap dramatisations affect some people, not all.it is not real.some people will change behaviour, although one could argue that is because they already had the predisposition.

okay so back to this BT and sean.well i imagine mums who have qualms/misgivings may listen or potentially be influenced. But also some will not be

i mean Nicolae Ceauşescu

absolutely milkgoddess, which is what is being said here.

I adisagree with scottishmummy. Research shows that the russian popuilation did believe, wanted to believe what they were told by their leader.
We are here on mumsnet becasue we care and we like to think of ourselves as open minded people who like discussion.
For a large % of the viewing coronation street public, I think this hs just compounded their view of bf as ... 'floppping them out' disgusting or yukky, or whatever it is they think of bf.
We all know that lots of joe public do hold this view.
Scriptwriters, as usual, just unhelpful in compounding this view rather than questioing it.
Many people would have just agreed, and sub consciously not given it a second's more thought.
Not helpful.

so if they all believed propaganda why were there dissidents eg Vladimir Maximov,Vyachslav Syssoyev,Alexander Solzhenitsyn et al.all prolific and active and terribly treated for views. The soviet population had a revolution, at grass roots level the TV propaganda did not work

TV is not that influential nor prolific

it paints a sad picture of human cognition and higher executive functions that we merely believe what we are told/see. how then does cultural/social change evolve?

Did you believe Blair when he told you Iraq was a good idea because he was on tv?do ypu believe everything you see on tv.

if we all believe TV, why are people protesting about Iraq?after all govt used tv to tell us it is ok

scottishmummy, are you really saying that you are in no way affected by advertising?

I am not saying that people watching corrie will go "oh, now I shant bf because sean says that he canyt be involved and i dont want to flop them out in public"

but it is likely that someone watching corrie who is already feeling selfconscious about feeding in public, or worries that her dp wont feel as involved if he cant feed will have those worries confirmed as the norm. after all, soaps are realistic!

read my previous posts please!i have said TV has variable influence's, it can influence behaviours if you have that predisposition. of course i am influenced by media eg i love handbags, make up so yes if a particular brand i like has a campaign most likely i am influenced because i want to be - i have a predisposition

lissielou - thank you!you are concordant with my thoughts eg the predisposition had to be there prior to TV influencing

as you say a Potential BF mum with worries about doing so in public already had those views individually held. not media generated

and im saying that if someone is already wavering/feeling uncomfortable then last nights corrie could push them towards formula.

and it is widely acknowledged that bf-ing needs to be shown as normal in order to raise the (frankly poor) figures. and negative comments on such a widely watched and popular soap will, for many people, confirm the myth that bf-ing is for freaky hippies.

But my point is whether people imitate what their favourite character does on tv is irrelevant! Drama is drama, art is art, fiction is fiction it is escapism there shouldn't be a message.

If you were writing a fictional novel would you include a breastfeeding scene to encourage women to breastfeed or would you write what you wanted to write? You can't dictate what writers write whether on the screen or in a book, there are other ways of getting the message across.

Ah if the predisposition's and queries about BF were there prior to TV influence, then actually this is a volitional issue.not necessarily pernicious media pressure

you attribute too much influence to TV

Can you see breastfeeding as a brand then, SM? Because that's how it's viewed by a lot of women - actually, I would say it's how most women feel. I've bought into it (clearly...!) - many, many women don't, for whatever reason.

(I am ROFL at CorrieDale asking if you need to bring your own baby to bfeed on CBeebies though )