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Charlotte Church - lovely comment about breastfeeding

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YummyMam · 04/10/2007 14:04

In OK this week (sorry, I couldn't resist the cover photo of their gorgeous baby).

"I can't imagine not breastfeeding. I'm not going to preach but it's better for the baby and the mother and it's such a bonding thing as well. I also love the fact that she's so dependant on me. I think if you can and don't it's ridiculous"

I think this is a fantastic quote which deserves much more publicity than the the stupid things Jordan said.

OP posts:
lazyemma · 05/10/2007 11:53

like I say lemonaid, hunker can always set me straight if she wants to.

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 11:58

"Stupid world where one cannot be proud of their parenting choices without being accused of judging on someone elses "

Jesus Christ! Have you actually read people's posts, or are you people being deliberately obtuse, or what? CC said "I think it's ridiculous if you can [breastfeed] and don't". Is that not, possibly, an example of "judging on someone else's parenting choices"? Conversely, no-one in their right minds could take issue what she said about how breastfeeding is lovely and great for bonding and all that good stuff. As more than one person has said, several fricking times.

hunkermunker · 05/10/2007 12:34

Oh, ffs, LE - if I'd been talking to you, I'd have said so.

I specifically said I wasn't earlier on because of exactly this sort of what I can only think is wilful misunderstanding, because you don't seem that stupid! So in my later post, I was referring to a wider group of people who use terms such as "breastfeeding mafia". Because it's often used, both on here and in RL.

Lemonaid, thank you. You've described exactly what happened and I appreciate it

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 12:41

This is what you posted, hunker - for reference:

"FFS! CC didn't say "I think women who physically can but have other reasons not to bf should all bf otherwise they're stupid twats" did she?

No. She said "can and don't" - I took "can" to mean a whole range of things - some of you on here are taking it to mean the very narrow "physically can".

I know it's a sensitive area, truly. But I do think that some people see slights were there are none, just so they can get cross about it and have a go at "the breastfeeding mafia" who they in some way blame/hate/envy massively. "

I'd say it's quite a forthright post and it's clear that you're directly addressing people on the thread. It doesn't really look to me like you're talking abstractly about some "wider group of people".

mrsmarvel · 05/10/2007 12:42

Back off everyone. Lazyemma is a national hero(ine). Go on emma, show them!

harpsicorpsecarrier · 05/10/2007 12:46

lazyemma, Piffle (if you read her post) was talking about her personal experience and how she was judged.
there really is absolutely no need to shout Jesus Christ and FFS and accuse her of being obtuse.

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 12:49

I didn't accuse Piffle of anything, harpsichordcarrier, and nor did I say "FFS". If I ever feel the need to swear, I spell it out in full glorious 12 point font.

hunkermunker · 05/10/2007 12:56

I know what I posted.

And I know what I meant. Yes, the initial starting point for the post was CC's comment, but the last sentence was addressing a wider point - often women DO see slights where there is none intended. Can I just say that by saying "women" here, I'm not singling you out.

Interestingly, Lemonaid knew what I meant, hence my comment about you wilfully misunderstanding me.

You often do this when I post, LE. I'm not sure why.

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 13:02

As I said before hunker (though you ignored me!) I don't have a problem with you. I can only remember exchanging words with you on one other occasion - the infamous JORDAN thread - where, to be frank, I was taking a lot of personal abuse from all comers, as a couple of other mumsnetters have since commented to me. If I've responded to your posts on other threads, it'll have been because of something you said, rather than my perception of you as a person: I don't have a perception of you as a person, I don't know anything about you!

It did seem to me on this occasion that you were having a little dig, but you know. You say you weren't, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

hunkermunker · 05/10/2007 13:04

The first time I "met" you on here, you posted v aggressively and out of the spirit of the thread on the jokey one I started about my boys looking like twins. You've not changed your tone to me since. Hence I thought you had a problem with me. If you just post like that to everyone, I would agree, you don't have a problem with me, you just have a problem.

mrsmarvel · 05/10/2007 13:06

Emma, there are some that dig and some that don't. Make a mental note of their names and retire gracefully! Shame to have to do it when you started the thread but some people just love to fight.

hunkermunker · 05/10/2007 13:07

How did LE start the thread? Is she YM too?

hunkermunker · 05/10/2007 13:08

And MrsM, I've been "dug" at more times by LE than she has by me.

Piffle · 05/10/2007 13:08

I concur fully...
read my posts LE

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 13:11

oh, THAT thread! I'm genuinely sorry about that - as far as I can remember, you said you were annoyed that that some people thought your boys looked like twins. I couldn't understand how you could honestly get aggrieved at people for being, at worst, a bit unobservant. It just seemed like pretty small beer, as problem go.

Then there was the Jordan thread. And although I was quite annoyed on that thread, I didn't get personal with anyone else, whereas quite a few people did with me - you might have been one of them, I dunno. But that's it. If you think I have a problem, so be it: I've apologised once, I won't bother again.

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 13:13

I did, Piffle .

hunkermunker · 05/10/2007 13:14

Yes, the twins thing - clearly it was keeping me awake at night and a massive problem to me. The whole thread was jokey and lighthearted and you crashed in with your heavy-handed humourless style and it got my back up. Still, you say you're sorry, so thank you.

I'm starting to wonder why I bother posting anything at all though, frankly. Maybe it's time for another break.

lazyemma · 05/10/2007 13:16

thanks, mrsmarvel.

spinspinsugar · 05/10/2007 13:18

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lazyemma · 05/10/2007 13:18

hunker, I've apologised! can we not just be friends? Of course you shouldn't stop posting because of me: I'm just one person, who is a bit of an idiot at time.

EBenes · 05/10/2007 13:54

"your heavy-handed humourless style "

I'm not much of an expert, but I think lazyemma makes better jokes than most people even when she's arguing with them. I say this especially because I clicked on her profile and was really tickled by 'My breasts have fallen the fuck off'.

katierocket · 05/10/2007 14:04

Can't be arsed to wade into any argument but just to say that good for CC - about time we had a 'celebrity' wave the flag for BF.

Piffle · 05/10/2007 14:13

PMSL @ Emma that is funny
maybe yours fell off and landed on mine cos they've somewhat tripled

robinredbreast · 05/10/2007 14:31

hunker please do not stop posting ,as you and tiktok,and moondog give the best bf advise ever

mn wouldnt be the same
without you

MadamePlatypus · 05/10/2007 14:43

Charlotte Church may be many things, but I think one thing you can't accuse her of being is snide.