17wks, bf, failure to thrive - 'Give him solids' ?

[Pesha]

Its me again

I know I wasnt going to get him weighed but with the paed appt I have still been going to give them an accurate picture of his weight, assuming that the hvs would leave me alone as something is being done. I am only going every 2 weeks though.

Ds2 is now 5.2kg so well into the blue at the bottom of the chart (his length is around the 50th line although I know that's never very accurate). HV is going to try and bring my paed appt forwards as its not till 20th sept.

And as he is now 17 weeks today she wants me to try and give him solids. I told her that I thought solids contain less calories and fat than breastmilk but would fill him up more, so he would feed less and it wouldnt help at all. She said that wasn't always the case and it seems like he's not getting enough calories atm. She suggested giving him just a little bit of something after a feed, hardly anything just a taste really she said. Well if it is only 'just a taste' then what's the point in that anyway?

I weaned my other 2 at this age but really wanted to wait till 6 months this time and try BLW. I thought solids at 17 weeks was against recommendations and a Bad Thing. Is it necessary in these circumstances though? Could it help? And if not then how can I argue my case to the hv in 2 weeks time? Or shall I just tell her I tried him but he wouldnt take it?

Embarrassed? Moi?

Big sloppy kiss with tongues for Aitch

I am not trying to critisise tiktok at all.

I know she has never claimed to be 'the authority' on bfing. I was merely pointing out that at the moment there doesn't seem to be an authority women can turn to with confidence because of the conflicting advice given by health professionals.

If individuals within the same profession say 'trust me i am right' with different information, it is only prudent to treat all the sources with a little scepticism.

I certainly don't want to offend anyone as I am finding this discussion interesting and informative.

I am not sure there is such a thing as the authority on BF, but if there is then tiktok gets my vote

OK, Bambi, then don't inform me I am not 'the authority' on breastfeeding as if I have claimed to be...a gal might easily get confused about what you mean

You are right about the difficulties caused by people being faced with coflicting advice. I don't understand why this led you to defend Tori's actions in adding to the whole mish-mash, though.

I am not offended, by the way

Ooh, ooh, what do I have to say to get tongues too ?

Tongues all round for them as wot likes me

Everyone else can take a hike

You have to compliment her (his?) abilities to plumb in a dishwasher

that's not fair, I said LOADS of nice things about you.

Katy, if (s)he can fix my shower then I'll go as far as first base . I'm sick of paddling through the kitchen every morning.

through the kitchen?
Where is your shower?

to address someone who said piffles advice from a health professional was dangerous

Not in my case as it turned out my dd had a serious heart condition underlying
Weaning at 17 wks would have been exceedingly dangerous and that is an actual FACT
Lucky I never tried it thus...
but I digress
A child who is low weight gaining and who appears to be getting enough milk needs to be seen by a paed to assess what to do next
Weaning is not the immediate answer and should not be the first port of call

Oli, you can get tongues from me.

Above the kitchen!Slight leakage problem somewhere Bloke who owned the house before us was a plumber, ironically.

kiski, leave the spinach, i need some extra iron!

you are kissing with tongues and i get told off for offering group hugs ! ppppppppppfffffft

C'mere and giz a snog, Lulu

I think we are going round in circles a bit .

I defended Tori's post because she has a right to give advice drawn from her own personal and professional opinion, which is what you do Tiktok.

Her experiences are different from yours. You ask her to keep an open mind and I ask you to do the same.

Alright, alright, stop right there . Let's just carry on the snogging love fest and leave it there now .

i am a professional also, does that mean i am qualified to give bfing advice?

nope, because i'm a journalist. tori's professional experience, like mine, does not qualify us to give professional bfing advice. she got the response she got because she presented her professional experience as relevant.

Bambi, you haven't been reading what I said.

Of course Tori has a right to post here. Your original post was wondering why people reacted so strongly to the contents of her post.

I explained, carefully and at length, why people got reacted in this way, and why the contents of her post deserved a negative response.

You persist in presenting this as a question of her right to post.

Please don't ask me to keep an open mind, with or without a - that's tantamount to telling me I have a closed mind, because I object to Tori using her professional experience to back up what she said...and her info was wrong and unhelpful.

It has nothing to do with Tori's experiences being different from mine. I am not talking about experiences. I am talking about knowledge and evidence.

PESHA

I started a new thread here for you as this one has rather gone awaymoved on from supporting you .

oops, didn't delete the extra words somehow!

Tiktok

Aitch, are you a journalist? Why didn't you write the article in PP on BLW this month, instead of the pointless baloney they had?

Here, here to piffle - or should that be hear hear! You are right in what you say.

Pesha's HV has done the right thing in trying to bring the paed appt forward. Personally I don't think I'd be advising weaning in this case (based upon what Pesha has said here) simply because the nutritional and calorific content of any solid food will be neglible at this stage and may mean Pesha's DS takes less of the far superior breastmilk.

Weaning will not make one iota of a difference to the weight gain of this baby - increased breastfeeds might. More important though is that Pesha's baby is seen by a paediatrician who can rule out any health problems which might affect his weight. Providing there are no health probs then perhaps Pesha's baby is just meant to be on this centile - and if that's the case then it's fine.

It is worth noting that the new centile charts which are being introduced (slowly) are different and on these charts Pesha's DS may go up a whole centile when his weight is plotted on these charts.

love shack, baby, love shack !!!

hugging and a'kissing, etc etc

there, now, doesn't everyone feel better?