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Night feeders thread part 3 - Up all night feeding? Come join! [title edited by MNHQ]

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mrsmugoo · 08/07/2014 20:45

Part 3!

Quick recap - DS, 17 weeks, EBF (stubborn little bottle refuser), crap sleeper! Super knackered Mummy, surviving on 1-2 hour sleeps :(

So I am hoping for a better night tonight seeing as bedtime went smoothly. Last night was hideous and I've eaten a twirl, a bounty and a salted caramel brownie today just to get through the day!

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Cannotbelieveit · 08/08/2014 23:52

Congrats Beany! I have a 16 month old and 3 month old! It's gets easier honestly! We are in a good routine now Grin

Writerwannabe83 · 09/08/2014 03:07

And he's awake.
Only 5 hours since he fell asleep.

lentilpot · 09/08/2014 03:36

Hi all! I'm new to the thread but thought is join in as my 8/9 day old baby has been feeding for an hour and a half and shows no signs of stopping any time soon!

BeanyIsPregnant · 09/08/2014 05:46

Oh goodness, feeling a bit like I've failed this morning.. Handholding please.
Dd fed

9.25-9.50- 25mins
10.15- 10.30- 15mins
10.50- 11.10- 20 mins
11.25-11.35 -10 mins
12.04- 12.14- 10 mins
Formula 1-2am
Dirty and Wet nappy
5.20- stillgoing

My boobs just could take anymore and dp had to cup feed her formula.. Have I buggered it all up?

BeanyIsPregnant · 09/08/2014 05:53

Can someone have a look at my latch? I'm getting a lot of pain and stinging from feeding, but he has tongue tie.. So I'm worried my latch isn't great but that noones bothering to notice because tongue tie would obviously make it more painful! picture of my beautiful ds bf following

I can see my ring out the top of his top lip easily, and his bottom lip is on the bottom edge..

Cariad007 · 09/08/2014 08:58

Is there a local bf support group you can go to? The counsellors there will be able to advise you on th latch. Also have you spoken to a lactation consultant re his tongue tie? Once that is snipped it should become easier.

Writerwannabe83 · 09/08/2014 12:59

After waking at 02.40am he didn't go back to sleep for almost 1 hour and 45 minutes! The usual game of crying whenever I put him down. After falling asleep at 04.30am he was then awake and crying an hour later so I sent DH downstairs and bought DS in with me where we had another 2 hours sleep.

Today I have decided to express and try and give him a bottle, just to see what he does. The time has come for my DH to start sharing some of the workload!!

NAR4 · 10/08/2014 16:03

Have now bought Nurses When the Sunshine's after recommendation from my HV to try and night we an my 17m ds. Will report progress in a month. Cross your fingers for me.

Just to give all the newer mummies hope, no matter how much you feel you might die from sleep exhaustion, you won't. You will live through it and it honestly won't seem as bad once you do.

KateTheShrew · 10/08/2014 17:44

Hi everyone. We've been staying with my parents for a week -- got back yesterday and I've just been catching up with the thread.

Welcome beany and congrats on your baby! Smile

DS continues to wake up screaming at night Sad however I've started doing a bit of a half-arsed version of pick up put down and it means that sometimes I've been able to get him back to sleep without feeding every time. It doesn't always work but it's good for morale!

He's properly crawling now too Shock we're going to have to baby proof the house...

Cariad007 · 10/08/2014 17:54

DS didn't sleep too well last night and was up at 630am, though DP took him so I could have a lie in. DS then compensated for it by dropping off around 10am and sleeping til lunchtime and then sleeping again from about 2-3pm!

I also decided to try giving him a little rice cereal mixed with EBM and he loved it! So I think weaning is going to be fun, but boy is it messy!!

Writerwannabe83 · 10/08/2014 23:22

23.30pm and I've just managed to get him into his cot.

He fell asleep on me at about 22.00pm and slept in my arms for 30 minutes but then woke within a minute of me putting him in his cot - he is doing this all the time now. He will then only settle when he's back at the breast, he doesn't feed but just suckles until he falls asleep again.

Things are just erratic with his bedtimes now - I don't have a clue what I'm doing anymore. I just do the best I can and hope that at sons point he will fall asleep and stay that way.

I class myself as lucky if he goes any longer than 5 hours these days.

KateTheShrew · 11/08/2014 09:26

writer Sad How old is your baby now?

This sounds a lot like what my DS has been doing over the past couple of months (he's just coming up for 7 months now). He started waking and crying every time I put him down. Having done a bit of research I think it may be because they start to develop an awareness that they aren't waking up in the same place that they went to sleep and can't settle again. Apparently when they're very small they don't remember that they went to sleep in your arms and woke up in the cot, but later on it upsets them.

If it's any comfort I think we may just about be coming out the other side of this now, but it's been a difficult few weeks. Hopefully it won't last long for you.

Writerwannabe83 · 11/08/2014 12:04

He is 20 weeks.

His first stretch of sleep was only 3 hours and his second stretch was only 1 hours. It just isn't like him at all. He isn't feeding very well either over the last few days which I thought may be due to teething pains but no amount of calpol or neurofen makes any difference.

I'm wondering if regarding his sleep he's just feeling too vulnerable in his big cot. I'm considering getting a sleeping bag to keep him contained and make him feel more secure but I worry he'd be too hot in this weather. It also doesn't help that now he's spinning round in circles and can roll onto his front he keeps waking up by being in all sorts of strange positions.

I just don't know what to do really but something needs to change because I'm so tired and so is DS.

KateTheShrew · 11/08/2014 13:21

Sympathy writer Thanks

Re sleeping bags, my DS is in a 1 tog one with a short sleeved bodysuit at the mo. If you go to the grobag website they have a guide to which bag/clothing to use at different temperatures which I've found quite helpful.

bumpiesonamission · 11/08/2014 13:27

Oh writer I feel your pain. A grobag has been s revelation! it certainly helps Z seem more calm and secure.

He is in a 1tog and ss vest.

We managed 3.5hrs till first feed and then 1.5hr feeds from then till 3:30 then asleep till 6:10 and then 7:30!

What's with the midnight clustering?!!

Writerwannabe83 · 12/08/2014 05:07

Another bad night.

First stretch of sleep was one hour.
His second stretch was 2.5 hours.
His 3rd stretch was 2.75 hours.

Between stretches 2 & 3 he woke up once and gurgled, moaned to himself for ten minutes but then fell asleep again. It was nice not having to get out of bed to attend to him but it was still another disturbance to my sleep.

When he's waking up he's in a good mood, he isn't upset about anything.

He's feeding now and then I'm bringing him into bed with me as that seems to be when he sleeps best. I gave never purposefully co-slept with him in the first 4 months if his night, but now I've had to do it for the last 10 nights or so just to get a 3 hour stretch if sleep!!

Cannotbelieveit · 15/08/2014 08:32

Where is everyone! Hoping the quiet means all the babies are sleeping well Grin

Cariad007 · 15/08/2014 09:49

DS has been sleeping better and I'm hoping it's down to growing up and starting solids rather than being in the bed with me! Getting him a cot this weekend so it may all change...

mrsmugoo · 15/08/2014 10:37

Hi I'm still here - keep meaning to check in and update but he is keeping me on my toes!

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mrsmugoo · 15/08/2014 11:43

Hi night feeders - he's asleep, who knows how long for so just popping on to update.

We took DS to a lovely chilled little family friendly festival last weekend and camped for 2 nights. He took to it really well and napped in his pushchair when he needed to which was more or less at his normal times. In the evening I'd put him in his pjs and snuggle him into the pushchair with blankets and he's go off to sleep at this regular time while we walked around the festival eating or maybe seeing an act. He'd wake for a bit and then go down for the night when I took him back to the tent at about 11ish (which is when he gets his dream feed usually anyway) He slept fine, woke for his usual 3amish feed and then went back down til 6am (woke because he was chilly rather than hungry I think), came in with me til 8. On the second night it was raining and he didn't go back down after his 6am wake up so he was a bit short on sleep for the night.

Since we've been back I knew it would take a while for him to get back to normal but he's been literally haywire! His self settling is nowhere near what it was before, it takes him ages and lots of crying to find his fingers to suck and soothe himself off to sleep so I've been having ti intervene and feed/cuddle him to sleep. He's been refusing naps, fighting sleep, waking up after 15 minutes in his cot in the day but then going back down for up to 2 hours on the double bed with me feeding him back to sleep.

He's also going 3 hours between sleeps instead of his usual clockwork 2 hours and only having 2 sleeps a day - this is fine and could be the start of a 3 to 2 nap transition but he won't take the longer sleeps in his cot - I've spent hours in the bedroom in the dark over the last 3 days laying with him while he sleeps - I can't keep doing this!

At night he seems to be lasting much longer from his last sleep (maybe because he's sleeping longer) and not going down to bed til gone 8, almost 9 and then sleeping til 8:30 in the morning - not an issue per se, but it's just a different schedule to before.

He seems to be regularly waking at about 2:30 now for a feed after having one at 10:30/11 which doesn't seem a very long gap for a 5 month old - especially as he's gone from 8pm-4am a few times with no feed. HV thinks he's ready for weaning, so tonight we're going to try a few mouthfuls of sweet potato.

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bumpiesonamission · 15/08/2014 14:03

Sorry

I thought we were making progress as we had been settling in to a day routine and z had been waking less and having a longer first period. However, last night was a shambles. He woke every 20mins after going down screaming. PUPD was successful. Then woke at 10 and 11:50. I fed for ease!!! Then he woke at 2:30 and chatted, cryed and played around till 5:50. I am not proud to say I was getting angry inside Sad Sad

He then slept till 8 but I am broken. u have focused more today on his eating and napping and I just hope it was a bad blip?! ( please say it was). I am now in a foul mood. Have cancelled coffee with a friend and just want to cry and hide Sad Sad

A positive is however that a kind mner has pm'd me with her experience if night weaning in a practical and caring format which I will start to use (when I get the guts to).

Sorry to whinge. Just ignore me Sad

Writerwannabe83 · 15/08/2014 17:32

Hi all, I'm still here too.

Things have been a mess for a few weeks now with DS to the point where for 5 nights he co-slept with me for the entire night because otherwise sleep was not on the agenda.

Yesterday me and DH decided to buy one of those sleep-bags to see if it made a difference and we couldn't believe how much of an improvement we saw last night. He sf settled for the first time in I don't know how long and then slept for over 6 hours straight. Prior to his bag he was waking every 2-3 hours. He w

Writerwannabe83 · 15/08/2014 17:35

Posted too soon...

He woke after his 6 hour stretch for a feeds, I put him back in his cot and he self settled again!! And he did it again after his next feed!! I couldn't believe it.

He looked really tired earlier so I zipped him into his bag, fed him until he was drowsy, put him in his cot and he was asleep within minutes!!

I love the sleep-bag!!!!!!!

KateTheShrew · 15/08/2014 18:55

I'm still here too!

We've had a bizarre mixture of really good nights and really awful ones lately, and I can't figure out any pattern to them Hmm sometimes he'll do 6 hours, sometimes he's up every 2 hours.

On the plus side, DS had TWO 1.5 hour naps in his pram today (not on my lap Shock) I didn't know what to do with myself and all that free time!

Glad to hear the sleeping bag has improved things, writer. We love ours except when he pees through it at 3am

mrsmugoo · 15/08/2014 19:32

Oh yes writer - DS has been in grobags since 8 weeks. Going to have to think about getting the next size up soon - he's almost to the bottom of his 0-6m sizes.

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