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Night feeders thread part 3 - Up all night feeding? Come join! [title edited by MNHQ]

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mrsmugoo · 08/07/2014 20:45

Part 3!

Quick recap - DS, 17 weeks, EBF (stubborn little bottle refuser), crap sleeper! Super knackered Mummy, surviving on 1-2 hour sleeps :(

So I am hoping for a better night tonight seeing as bedtime went smoothly. Last night was hideous and I've eaten a twirl, a bounty and a salted caramel brownie today just to get through the day!

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mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 00:57

Batmam - waking every 3 hours for feeds is good!

I've only just come out the back of 4 month sleep regression where he was waking at 10, 12, 2, 4, & 6!

As it is I dream fed at 10:30 and have just been woken up by him so just over 2 hours sleep.

I've not fed him though, just straightened him and sat for a moment with hand on chest doing some shushing. I think he's settling back off to sleep now. He was doing his usual turning 90 degrees in the cot, poking legs through bars and trying to flip over.

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PollyP0429 · 23/07/2014 01:09

Hmm first time in days she's having a good night and I have insomnia. I decided to send DH to his parents for a decent nights sleep as he's on a 12 hour driving shift tomorrow, but now I can't sleep cos he's not here.

dreamcatcher44uk · 23/07/2014 01:14

Hi everyone new to thread :) am I overdressing my baby? She wears a long sleeved baby gro to bed(no vest) .. It's 25 degrees during the day here and my phone is saying 18 degrees at the moment. I don't have a thermometer for inside unfortunately. It's a bit stuffy but I'm finding it not too bad.

She is 6 weeks old. I'm hoping she has a good night tonight. Just feeding her at the moment.

Redcliff · 23/07/2014 01:58

Hi new here - got up an hour ago to feed 6 week old - really should go back to bed. In terms if clothes - I guess it depends on how hot your house is. Outside here it's 19 degrees and our house is really hot. My baby is just in nappy and swaddle blanket - do you have any blankets on baby? If not then that sounds ok

Redcliff · 23/07/2014 02:06

Batman - I think what you have described re waking every two hours is very normal and I find it hard to believe your friends have sleeping through babies - they must be very lucky as I have the same as you as do my friends with the same aged babies

mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 02:31

Up again to correct cot gymnastics Hmm

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Writerwannabe83 · 23/07/2014 03:26

DS went 5 hours which I kind of expected in this heat. He has just had a huge feed off both sides and is now gurgling quietly to himself in his Crib.

mrsmugoo - I don't know exactly what Aur Wrap is but I bought some bumpers that are designed to have air flowing through them for the exact reason you mentioned. I did initially just have done standard bumpers but I just didn't feel they were very safe regarding suffocation risk. The ones I have now were quite expensive but I feel much more reassured by them. I have a set that fit the Crib and another set big enough to fit the Cot when he goes in to it.

Welcome to even more newbies Smile

Writerwannabe83 · 23/07/2014 06:13

Two hours after falling asleep and he's awake again with a super duper wet nappy but also wanting another big feed. These warm nights have a lot to answer for.

I feel tired.

Cannotbelieveit · 23/07/2014 08:03

Well I wasn't on as Ryder did 9.45pm- 7.30am kinky stirring once at 1am. Not expecting this all the time but it's nice to know he's capable at least. He's just on 2nd boob now and DS1 is patiently waiting for his breakfast!!

mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 09:15

He was up at 4:30 to feed and I brought him in with me to prevent yet another wake up. We got up for the day at 7:15.

So only one feed but still 3 wake ups and my longest stretch of sleep wasn't even 2.5 hours.

How can I help him stay asleep?? We know it's not hunger as he self settles back off nicely.

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mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 09:21

Well done Cannot that's amazing!!

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Cariad007 · 23/07/2014 09:53

Not a bad night here. I took 2 paracetamol before bed, DS only woke twice and I feel human again! He's still asleep. Last few days he's been waking up around 10am. Does anyone else's baby do this? I'm not sure whether it's a good thing or not or if it contributes to his late bedtime and not napping so much in the day. But I am not a morning person and could never be one of those Gina Ford mothers who wake their babies at 6am!!

bumpiesonamission · 23/07/2014 10:16

Sorry, missed a lot last night.

mungoo he can self settle as he goes down awake iyswim. tbh I haven't actually left him as I'm worried about cc or CIO but actually he is usually just whinging. Perhaps I should try to settle without feedimg? I just worry as he takes a full feed when I do feed him?! Hmm

writer I have a gp app first available next week and will see the HV after for weight in. I have a history of depression and anxiety so I am not sure if I'm just being neurotic!! Wink

Well done to the sleepers of last night. Lo woke with a fever at 4 so calpol gave us 3.5hrs at the end of the night as well as the beginning. (no calpol at the beginning)

Re: clothing, my lo wears a short sleeve vest and 1tog gro bag. Its 25 at the mo in his room. Without the gro bag he doesn't settle as has legs a kimbo!!

Writerwannabe83 · 23/07/2014 11:24

Morning all from a very tired mommy!

After his 6am feed DS just refused to go back to sleep until 07.30am. I managed to drift off again but he was awake again by 08.00am. My DH took pity on me and took Das downstairs and so I got another two hours sleep.

I don't know what's up with him lately, he usually falls asleep quickly after feeds and goes a few hours!

cannot - that is brilliant!!!

mrsmugoo - when are you planning on putting him in his own room?

cariad - DS frequently sleep until 10.00am

mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 20:10

Writer - ASAP but we've got quite a bit to do to make it happen as the spare room is currently set up as an office / guest room so need to clear out loads of stuff and also get blackout linings for the curtains as it's really light in there. Realistically it's going to be a few weeks.

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mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 20:15

Bumpies - my DS would take a full feed hourly round the clock if he was offered! But he wakes up and sends himself back off to sleep with no fussing/grizzling now so we know he's not actually hungry. I was just using BF as my only way of settling him.

I know cio/cc is controversial and I would never advocate letting a young baby cry indefinitely, but sometimes I think a little cry can help them figure things out for themselves. I was rushing to DS every time he whimpered and never giving him the chance to learn how or settle himself back off.

Tonight he went down fully awake after his feed,although I know he was tired. I've just watched him squirm and wriggle around and finally he's asleep in a really weird position haha!

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Writerwannabe83 · 23/07/2014 21:56

Well yet again it has been 2 hours since I bought him up to bed and he's still grizzling, crying and screaming.

I'm getting a bit sick of it now as there's absolutely nothing wrong with him.

He cries and screams in his crib, I pick him up, he goes silent and just keeps smiling at me. After a few minutes of calm I put him back down and within minutes he's crying and screaming again. It's just an endless circle.

I love him but he's pushing my patience. His nighttime behaviours seem to be getting worse as opposed to getting better.

notadoctor · 23/07/2014 22:05

Evening all! Just doing a final feed for DS. It's been a busy eve as DD performed in her first dance show (she's not quite 3 yet - it was v cute!) and then we all went out for tea to celebrate. DD crashed out exhausted and very happy and DS has been a very smiley little chap this eve so hopefully the change in routine won't stop us having a peaceful night! Part of me is looking forward to having evenings back to me and DH but I think a bigger part of me will really miss DS when he has a proper bedtime!

Mrs Mugoo - re longer stretches, babies and young children all sleep in cycles of 1-3hrs and they'll always stir to some degree between cycles - the trick is to stop them waking fully. Consistent temperature can help, so can a cosy sleep environment they're familiar with (nightlight etc) or a comforter/ cuddly. White noise through the night can help too. The fact that your LO is already self settling is a massive step in the right direction.

My DS is just in his nappy tonight - it's roasting!

mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 22:06

This may be a stupid question Writer, but is he tired?

What have his naps been like today?

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mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 22:11

Poor old DS has been thrashing around in his cot, I think he's hot. The bedroom thermometer says 27 degrees!

I unzipped his grobag so his legs could get some air and he's now asleep in a very odd position partially on his side with his legs up in the air against the side of the cot. Bless.

I'm shattered because I've walked about 5 miles today but it's so hot I'm dreading trying to go to sleep and know I'm in for a rough night with him as he seems so unsettled. I think I'll go in and do his Dreamfeed in about half an hour.

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notadoctor · 23/07/2014 22:13

Sorry Writer - just cross posted. Sorry to hear you're having a tough time. That sounds v testing.

Could it be separation anxiety starting to kick in...? I think my DS is slightly younger than yours and I'm just starting to see the first signs of it (he now cries if I leave the room or come into the room without saying hello).

If that is it, it is definitely just a phase which will come and go (like everything!) Spending time during the day playing hiding/ finding games (like peepo or making toys vanish then reappear from under a blanket) is meant to help hurry it along I think as it helps them understand people can go away but still cons back.

Be kind to yourself - and take lots of deep breathes - it sounds like you're doing brilliantly.

Writerwannabe83 · 23/07/2014 22:14

He had a 90 minute nap at about 11.30 am. Then he had another hour at about 4pm.

I have vacated the room and left DH with DS. I can't listen to it anymore and I'm fed up of DH thinking he can sit downstairs and watch the TV and just leave me to it. He can deal with it tonight.

Cariad007 · 23/07/2014 22:18

DS being a NIGHTMARE this evening and refusing to sleep. He had a long nap from about 130 to just before 4pm, about 29 mins at 7pm and now just will not settle. He keeps pinching and scratching me too, which bloody hurts!

Writerwannabe83 · 23/07/2014 22:46

Well I fed him out of desperation just to try and calm him down and he fell asleep at the breast. He's asleep in his crib now but I'm sure it won't be for long seeing as I couldn't wind him....

How are things your end now cariad?

mrsmugoo · 23/07/2014 22:54

Hmmm if he last slept at 4 and you took him to bed at 8 maybe he's overtired? I know my DS can only manage 2 hours awake, any longer and he's seriously grumpy.

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